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films: Most unnecessary sequels

saw 2 & 3
saw 1 would have gone down as a cult classic if there were no sequels. now it will die like fright night.
 
Clerks 2 was totally unnecessary. The first one was so good, the second one was just pointless -- it would be impossible to improve on it. I stopped watching it 20 minutes in, I just couldn't take any more.


I would go as far as to say that, as a general guideline, the vast majority of sequels are unnecessary. What usually happens is, "Wow! That movie cleaned up at the box office! Let's keep making sequels without any regard for relevancy or merit until they are no longer profitable."

And as a hard rule: Any sequel which does not contain any members of the original cast is going to suck. The fact that they wouldn't come back for more is a giant red flag. I just can't think of any situation where the entire cast for the sequel is different from the original and the movie wasn't a total waste of time. Can anyone else?
 
BoogieShoes said:
And as a hard rule: Any sequel which does not contain any members of the original cast is going to suck. The fact that they wouldn't come back for more is a giant red flag. I just can't think of any situation where the entire cast for the sequel is different from the original and the movie wasn't a total waste of time. Can anyone else?

I would say there's one exception to the rule: James Bond.
 
... said:
You know that a series of films is running out of ideas when it introduces the "father character" or the "brother character" in order to take attention away, through a series of cute family interactions, from the lack of a decent plot.
i think, of the three, the last crusade has the best plot. it doesn't get much grander than the search for the holy grail - it's the ultimate plot!

i obviously can't really judge the next one until i've seen it but i hope they make it the last one and put the franchise to bed.

alasdair
 
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perhaps they should have used a different animal than a shark in the 'jaws' sequels?

if you take a reductionist standpoint, you can accuse any movie of having no plot...

:)

alasdair
 
i appreciate your standpoint - i honestly do - but for every point you're making there's an equally compelling counterpoint which, to me, places the 'stupid' in a totally different light.

it's easy to accuse a second sequel of lacking originality - in many ways that's the point. it's like accusing rich people of having more money than most - that's the point...

one person's "sappy hollywood" ending is shit. to others it's a classic end to a story which leaves some room for the imagination and pays tribute to certain epic westerns. or whatever.

the young indy sequence wasn't an implication that he'd been an adventurer since childhood - it was a clear statement of that fact. in the previous movies, there was no explanation of how he came to be the modern day swashbuckling hero we all love so i, for one, thought it was great that they went back and developed that part of the character. most (mainstream) movies go beginning-middle-end. wiht these, we get middle-beginning-end. they show a little originality and still you criticise them. :)

one person's "laughable in the wrong way" is "laughable in the right way".

etc.

i, also, could go on and on. :)

not good or bad. just differences of opinion, that's all.

alasdair
 
Count me in as someone else who thinks "Last Crusade" is overrated.

Yes, I love it. Yes, it has a lot of good laughs. Yes, Connery and Ford have on-screen chemistry. However, it's too light for it's own good, and lacks the mystery and forboding that makes "Raiders" by far the best of the series so far. I still prefer "Last Crusade" to "Temple of Doom", though; that movie would have nearly equalled the first if it weren't for the annoying, ditzy blonde--the Jar-Jar Binks of the series.
 
I can't remember which one it is (cause there are so many), but I think one of the Jason sequels is on par with halloween III as being completely pointless. The villain was just some crazy guy with jason's spirit inside of him or something like that (if I remember correctly)

I didn't even bother watching anymore of it after the first 15 minutes.
 
Return to the Blue Lagoon (sequel to The Blue Lagoon)

C.H.U.D 2 (Bud the Chud)

And The Goonies 2 when it comes out. From what I hear, it's going to be about the Goonies kids going on an adventure. No doubt it will suck, but it's going to get lots of viewers who have Goonies imbedded in their heads as a great child hood memory. It's a piece of nostalgia grained in me forever. And I'll be one of the suckers that will go see the sequel, helping to make it #1 at the box office.
 
I thought The Last Crusade was alright. Temple Of Doom was terrible though. Too much suspension of disbelief for me.
Whereas in the other two, they threw the supernatural aspect right in at the end as the climax, Temple had it present throughout the whole movie what with the guy possessing people and voodoo dolls and shit.
Plus, there's that part of Temple where you see Indy's head about 6 inches from the rock crushing machine just about to go in... for like 5 minutes!
 
supertrav77 said:
3. Halloween III: Season Of The Witch. No Michael Myers. No slashers at all, in fact. Instead we got a evil toy company and masks that make kids' heads turn to bugs.
Now some of you will insist that this movie deserves to be #1 because Halloween III not only diverges drastically from formula but does not even make a token effort to link itself to the first two. I sympathize your arguements.

Poor you, for being misled by the title.
 
Aliens vs. Predator: Requiem

I died watching the first one, it was so bad it literally killed me. The fact that there is a sequel has me spinning in my grave. lol
 
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