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films: Hardest Movies to Understand

haha, who's hating on Waterworld, that movie was sick, anways, 12 monkeys, that movie was confusing. How about "Pulp Fiction", it's not that hard to figure out, but the second and third time you watch it, it's so much better than the first.
 
steadilyrockin said:
How about "Pulp Fiction", it's not that hard to figure out, but the second and third time you watch it, it's so much better than the first.

NO FILM has ever made me feel as high after a first viewing as pulp fiction did. And this was before I ever got into drinking alcohol let alone consume other intoxicates.
 
I watched moholland drive and didnt get it one bit. Whats with the tiny people?!? I have searched for it online but was no more clued up after reading about it so could someone tell me the basic storyline? ta

I got Donnie Darko after the second watch
 
jeldrid said:
Lost Highway probably had me the most lost of any movie I've ever seen. Unfortunately, I didn't get a chance to figure out that movie before someone told me what it was about.

Share the secret?? I think this is the only movie that still keeps me in the dark.
 
I don't really understand Donnie Darko either - or Mulholland Drive. I think I need to watch them a third or fourth time.
 
I dont think anyone REALLY understands Donnie Darko. I just dont think they give you enough to.
 
Originally posted by little_miss_giggles
I watched moholland drive and didnt get it one bit. Whats with the tiny people?!? I have searched for it online but was no more clued up after reading about it so could someone tell me the basic storyline? ta


--SPOILERS BELOW FOR MULHOLLAND DRIVE--

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go do a search on google groups (of the alt.movies.david-lynch newsgroup) for posts by "Trichome" about mulholland drive. there'd be far too much to post here, but that guy knows the film inside-out.

in short though, the film is about a young lady who aspires to be a big hollywood star. she goes to hollywood in search of this dream (after winning a jitterbug contest), and realises that it isn't all that she dreamed of. through her relationship with a more important actress though, (camilla/"rita"), she is able to gain a few small roles in films.

their relationship ends though, and camilla begins dating a film director (adam kesher). at this stage, diane puts a hit out on her ex in her hysterical mind-state. during the anticipation of and after the death (which we and diane learn about by the blue key), diane goes sorta crazy, as we see of the flashbacks of her in the apartment. finally, she decides to commit suicide, her dreams of love and fame shattered.

most (if not all) of the film is a complex analysis/viewing of her thoughts at the moment of death. even the moments of "reality" are still mostly just flashbacks anyway. it's actually (apparently) a kind of buddhist concept...similar to the "life flashing before your eyes" thing that many people attest to at life-threatening moments.
 
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(and i understood donnie darko just fine the *first* time i saw it. i understand that it could be difficult, but it would be silly to say that no one really understands it :)).
 
Maybe i just didn't like donnie darko> I didnt quite understand the fascination behind it. Hmm.

I wonder.
 
^^^ indeed. i agree that it's often more difficult to commit to understanding a film if you just don't find it that interesting. i've definitely found this with ... some (*wishes brain worked better so i could think of something*) ... but yes :)
 
Evlorin: yeah of course:) a great movie has to be ambiguous and you need to be able to feel it above all else. Um, that sounds a bit ghey but tis true. 8 1/2 is definitely a cinematic masterpiece which despite if it's your own preferred style or not necessitates acknowledgment and appreciation all the same.

Dittohead: I think it would perhaps better be described as that the film tackles an idea which is beyond our current understanding however this does not prelude actual understanding of the film itself. In my eyes these are two separate things.

Yes! The Shining , I saw that alone the first time too, very freaky. The ending especially was confusing, when you see Jack's picture on the hotel wall... and then that scene with the caretaker in the bathroom too... but I think that it was purposely made to be confusing because of the element of the shining aka the supernatural.

Mulholland Drive- I'm watching it this coming week in class, havent seen it yet, but the numerous posts in this thread about it have definitely got me curious. 1234 you should have put spoiler alert :D
 
someboy asked about the explanation of lost highway on this thread ... here ( I LOVED THIS MOVIE)
SPOILERS AHEAD!!!...( for both lost highway and fight club)....

..i dont understand why nobody has realised that fight club totally ripped off the same camera crap with its " dual identity" thing.... ( notice how lynches camera distorts in jail scenes...same as tyler durden when he punks that kid ( tommrow will be the best day of his life ... etc etc his breakfast will taste so good ..blah blah.... ( sorry if already coverered)....

SPOILERS.....

guy commits murder..canott handle the reality with which he is presented.. therefore creates another reality... ie " pete" where he can rationalise himself....


lost highway

as for " mullholland drive" its pretty straighforward... this is all u need to know b4 u watch it again....


mullholland drive explained

hope that helps!
 
why is magnolia confusing??? i dont get it .. if your reffering to the " frogs"..... here is paul thomas andersons explanation....


SPOILERS AHEAD !!!!....


Of all things, why frogs?

It truly came from a slightly gimmicky and exciting place. I’d read about rains of frogs in the works of Charles Fort, who was a turn-of-the-century writer who wrote mainly about odd phenomena. Michael Penn was the one who turned me on to Fort, and who, when I went to one of Michael’s shows in New York once, made reference on stage to “rains of frogs.” At that moment I just went, Wow! How cool and scary and fun to do that would be – and what does it mean?

So I just starting writing it into the script. It wasn’t until after I got through with the writing that I began to discover what it might mean, which was this: You get to a point in your life, and shit is happening, and everything’s out of your control, and suddenly, a rain of frogs just makes sense. You’re staring at a doctor who’s telling you something is wrong, and while we know what it is, we have no way of fixing it. And you just go, so what you’re telling me, basically, is that it’s raining frogs from the sky.

I’m not someone who’s ever had a special fascination with UFO’s or supernatural phenomena or anything, but I guess I just found myself at a point where I was going through some shitty stuff and I was ready for some sort of weird religion experience, or as close as I could get to one.

So then I began to decipher things about frogs and history, things like this famous notion that, as far back as the Romans, people have been able to judge the health of a society by the health of its frogs. The health of a frog, the vibe of a frog, the texture of a frog, its looks, how much wetness is on it, everything. The frogs are a barometer for who we are as people. We’re polluting ourselves, we’re killing ourselves, and the frogs are telling us so, because they are all getting sick and deformed. And I didn’t even know it was in the Bible until Henry Gibson gave me a copy of the Bible, bookmarked to the appropriate frog passage.
 
^^^ Thanks for that. :)

Pounding_Grooves said:
people have been able to judge the health of a society by the health of its frogs.

yeah that was my second guess 8(
 
Being John Malkovich...

I dunno i understood all the othe ones you guys said, it's just that this movie is like bleahh...

I like understand it, but i think its designed to be fucked and not understood. stupid movie.
 
Originally posted by sexyanon
Magnolia

Goddamn frogs...


the frog storm is not meant to be taken literally. there are a few vignettes throughout magnolia which are based on famous urban myths and puzzles of logic.

the frog rain is a reference to exodus 8:2. see the imdb trivia for this movie for numerous other references to 8 and 2 in the movie.

alasdair
 
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