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film: wtf was up with pi?

mintalyelevatid

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i just saw pi and didnt get it.

the only thing i caught was that [it appeared, i may be wrong] on the paper with all the numbers, the first 216 numbers of pi were started in the middle of the paper and spiraled outward. i may be wrong, but i think thats how it goes.

everyone says its a good movie, so i must be missing something...
 
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i havent seen it in a while but i think the paper with the numbers was the stock exchange page of the newspaper. the number that he was getting would allow him to predect the stock market, since everything has to do with spirals.
 
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Someone had to get to that first. I'm glad it was you.

I beleive that all really good movies can be open to various interpretations. I've gleaned different things from the same movie after multiple viewings. That being said, some things I got out of Pi:

Math is the key to the universe / finding God / ultimate understanding. Maybe.

Man, even at his brightest, cannot know the will of God. Yet.

Sometimes, not knowing everything is the only thing that makes it okay.
 
Been a while since I watched it, similar to what Stark said

It's a dude trying to find the underlying patterns of the fluctuations in the stockmarket.

The stockmarket is used as an example of nature, an example of how things change in time due to chance. By trying to analyise these fluctations he was trying to find the thing underlying the universe.

The answer he gets is pi... a number which never stops, the answer will never stop. The question he has asked leads to an answer which will never stop, the question will go on forever.

Trying to do this eventually lead to him breaking his head, he had to drill through it and stop questioning and then I think he is able to see the world as it is without trying to break it down into pieces. Stopping the questioning frees him to enjoy.

This isn't nearly as thorough as the film warrants what with the dudes trying to find the code underlying the bible and other stuff but I believe that it's saying something about trying to see through nature with the mind, and you can't do it cos even this great genius couldn't do it and it drove him mad, if you try and do it you'll just run yourself in circles; we don't have the power to question everything.
 
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maybe i hyped myself up too much for the movie. i caught all the obvious things, i was hoping there was some kind of underlying catch that i missed. im not too thrilled about paying 5 bucks to rent it.

thanks for the replies
 
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I agree!
Have you noticed that PI and A Beautiful Mind have the same general plot line??

Except, PI doesnt remind you of that dorky looking algebra teacher you had in High School :|

So I'm leaning the favor toward PI, since it came out before A B M, and it kept the viewer's attention without boring you with pointless dialogue.

The movie is definitely a work of Art without a doubt! %)
 
Great film... Amazing soundtrack too!

I guess you either pick up and identify with the premises, or you don't. In my job I represent real world situations in mathematics fairly often so the idea of an equation to represent everything kinda appealed.
 
i think this is one of the most thought-provoking films around (especially in contemporary terms), and aronofsky's cinematography absolutely works perfectly (as with requiem) with the themes explored within it.

though there are some issues which are explored overtly, i'm not too arrogant to admit that what you said setarcos, opened up a few new ideas about this film in my head - i think your (albeit short) analysis was interesting, and most importantly, spot-on :)

aronofsky is a genius.
 
Mathmatics is the language of nature . . .

Patterns everywhere in everything . . .

You can see and feel the patterns, but you can't quite grasp them.

Awesome movie, but it had to be seen before requiem. The same effects were used in both movies, but better in requiem.
 
The ending is incredible! The DVD commentary is quite helpful in shedding light on some of the things the creator was thinking, it is basically about representation of reality by numbers and the implications of patterns being existant in all life and all society.

If something follows a pattern - then we need only to find it - and if we find it.... what happens to the pattern?

--- G.
 
Tech Kinetics said:
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I agree!
Have you noticed that PI and A Beautiful Mind have the same general plot line??
Click to expand...

Jesus Christ. We went over this before. Pi and A Beautiful Mind are NOTHING alike. Saying they have the same general plotline is like saying Leaving Las Vegas and Strange Brew both have the same general plotline. They both involve heavy drinking, right?

Pi was a movie about a man who discovered the key to existance as we know it hidden in a mathematical equation, and how it nearly drove him insane. A Beautiful Mind was about a man who already was insane, and how he had an inate understanding of how numbers work. These are basic, obvious things that you seem to have missed entirely. The characters, stories, motivations, conflicts, resolutions... all apples and oranges. It's like you watched the first five minutes of each film, long enough for the main characters to start talking about numbers, then stopped paying attention.

If you watch these movies again and actualy PAY ATTENTION to them you will see how very little they have in common aside from the math.

Adios,
Steve
 
Jeez, man, I fully agree that the two movies are nothing alike but isn't that being a bit too hostile about an oppinion on something like this? =D

--- G.
 
I only get this way about movies when I KNOW 100% beyond a shadow of a doubt that I am correct. This is how I have always been, and how I always will be.

His claim of the two movies being so alike is NOT a matter of opinion. It is a matter of common sense.

Let me put it this way: Say you are talking to some freaky born-again christian who says something along the lines of

"I don't believe in evolution. Science has it wrong. The planet earth really was created a few thousand years ago by an omnipotent being. It IS true! The bible tells me so!"

To someone like me, calling a masterpiece like Pi and a so-so semi-biographical drama like A Beautiful Mind even remotely similar is just as mind-numbingly ignorant as a flat-out denial of evolution.

The fact that the kid even argued about it with me the first time he made a claim like that makes it even worse.

Adios,
Steve
 
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movies are art. art is entirely a matter of opinion.

it's entirely possible for somebody to see similarities that you don't and for that person to give those similarities greater weight than you, perhaps would.

please don't belittle the opinion of others to the detriment of your substantial contribution to this forum. thanks.

alasdair
 
Jewish mysticism (Qabballa) believes that you can figure out the universe/God with numbers. I believe that is the premise of the movie. This guy stumbled on the actual answer and everyone else is after it. However, it starts to drive him mad.

I, personally, loved this movie.
 
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