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"Passion of Christ" Review--Mod(s), do what thou wilt

I figured this was pertinent to CE aND P because of all the scrutiny the movie has come under in the public eye and media, etc. (re: being anti-semitic).

Here's a review I came across that is worth a read no matter what religion you are, if you like movies or not, etc...

News Anchor's Perspective on "The Passion of the Christ"
Jody Dean
Dallas/Ft. Worth anchor, CBS News

There have been tons of e-mails and forwards floating around recently from those who have had the privilege of seeing Mel Gibson's The Passion Of The Christ prior to its actual release. I thought I'd give you my reaction after seeing it last week.

The screening was on the first night of "Elevate!" a weekend-long seminar for young people at Prestonwood Baptist Church in Plano. There were about 2,000 people there, and the movie was shown after several speakers had taken the podium. It started around 9:00 and finished around 11:00...about two hours in length. Frankly, I lost complete track of time - so I can't be sure.

I want you to know that I started in broadcasting when I was 13-years-old. I have been in the business of writing, performing, production and broadcasting for a long time. I have been a part of movies, radio, television, stage and other productions - so I know how things are done. I know about soundtracks and special effects and make-up and screenplays. I think I have seen just about every kind of movie or TV show ever made - from extremely inspirational to extremely gory. I read a lot - and have covered stories and scenes that still make me wince. I also have a vivid imagination, and have the ability to picture things as they must have happened - or to anticipate things as they will be portrayed. I have also seen an enormous amount of footage from Gibson's film, so I thought I knew what was coming.

But there is nothing in my existence - nothing I could have read, seen, heard, thought or known - that could have prepared me for what I saw on screen last night.

This is not a movie that anyone will "like". I don't think it's a movie anyone will "love". It certainly doesn't "entertain". There isn't even the sense that one has just watched a movie. What it is.an experience - on a level of primary emotion that is scarcely comprehensible. Every shred of human preconception or predisposition is utterly stripped away. No one will eat popcorn during this film. Some may not eat for days after they've seen it. Quite honestly, I wanted to vomit. It hits that hard.

I can see why some people are worried about how the film portrays the Jews. They should be worried. No, it's not anti-Semitic. What it is, is entirely shattering. There are no "winners". No one comes off looking "good" - except Jesus. Even His own mother hesitates. As depicted, the Jewish leaders of Jesus' day merely do what any of us would have done - and still do. They protected their perceived "place" - their sense of safety and security, and the satisfaction of their own "rightness". But everyone falters. Caiphus judges. Peter denies. Judas betrays. Simon theCyrene balks. Mark runs away. Pilate equivocates. The crowd mocks. The soldiers laugh. Longinus still stabs with his pilus. The centurion still carries out his orders. And as Jesus fixes them all with a glance, they still turn away. The Jews, the Romans, Jesus' friends - they all fall. Everyone, except the Principal Figure. Heaven sheds a single, mighty tear - and as blood and water spew from His side, the complacency of all creation is eternally shattered.

The film grabs you in the first five seconds, and never lets go. The brutality, humiliation, and gore are almost inconceivable - and still probably does not go far enough. The scourging alone seems to never end, and you cringe at the sound and splatter of every blow - no matter how steely your nerves. Even those who have known combat or prison will have trouble, no matter their experience - because this Man was not conscripted. He went willingly, laying down His entirety for all. It is one thing for a soldier to die for his countrymen. It's something else entirely to think of even a common man dying for those who hate and wish to kill him. But this is no common man. This is the King of the Universe. The idea that anyone could or would have gone through such punishment is unthinkable - but this Man was completely innocent, completely holy - and paying the price forothers. He screams as He is laid upon the cross, "Father, they
don't know. They don't know..."

What Gibson has done is to use all of his considerable skill to portray the most dramatic moment of the most dramatic events since the dawn of time. There is no escape. It's a punch to the gut that puts you on the canvas, and you don't get up. You are simply confronted by the horror of what was done - what had to be done - and why. Throughout the entire film, I found myself apologizing.

What you've heard about how audiences have reacted is true. There was no sound after the film's conclusion. No noise at all. No one got up. No one moved. The only sound one could hear was sobbing. In all my years of public life, I have never heard anything like that.

I told many of you that Gibson had reportedly re-shot the ending to include more "hope" through the Resurrection? That's not true. The Resurrection scene is perhaps the shortest in the entire movie - and yet it packs a punch that can't be quantified. It is perfect. There is no way to negotiate the meaning out of it. It simply asks, "Now, what will you do?"

I'll leave the details to you, in the hope that you will see the film - but one thing above all stands out, and I have to tell you about it. It comes from the end of Jesus' temptations in the wilderness - where the Bible says Satan left him "until a more opportune time." I imagine Satan never quit tempting Christ, but this film captures beyond words the most opportune time. At every step of the way, Satan is there at Jesus' side - imploring Him to quit, reasoning with Him to give up, and seducing Him to surrender. For the first time, one gets a heart-stopping idea of the sense of madness that must have enveloped Jesus - a sense of the evil that was at His very elbow. The physical punishment is relentless - but it's the sense of psychological torture that is most overwhelming. He should have quit. He should have opened His mouth. He should have called 10,000 angels.

No one would have blamed Him. What we deserve is obvious. But He couldn't do that. He wouldn't do that. He didn't do that. He doesn't do that. It was not and is not His character. He was obedient, all the way to the cross - and you feel the real meaning of that phrase in a place the human heart usually doesn't dare to go. You understand that we are called to that same level of obedience. With Jesus' humanity so irresistibly on display, you understand that we have no excuse. There is no place to hide.

The truth is this: Is it just a "movie"? In a way, yes. But it goes far beyond that, in a fashion I've never felt - in any forum. We may think we "know". We know nothing. We've gone 2,000 years - used to the idea of a pleasant story, and a sanitized Christ. We expect the ending, because we've heard it so many times. God forgive us. This film tears that all away. It's is as close as any of us will ever get to knowing, until we fully know. Paul understood. "Be urgent, in and out of season."

Luke wrote that Jesus reveals Himself in the breaking of the bread. Exactly. The Passion Of The Christ shows
that Bread being broken.

Go see this movie.

Jody Dean is theDallas/Ft. Worth anchor for CBS News.
 
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I've not really understood the charges of anti-Semitism. I haven't seen the film, but even if it does portray "the Jews" being at fault, I fail to see the link to racism. Even if some Jews did something bad over 2000 years ago why is it anti-Semitic to point that out? Is it wrong to say that the Cultural Revolution was wrong, lest one be charged with being anti-Chinese? Or that the Empire was wrong, making one anti-British?

Those who try and censor criticism of a group of people because it might make the whole race culpable shoot themselves in the foot; they reenforce the notion of "group culpability" when they should be attacking it.

[Note, I am not arguing the ins and outs of the Bible story, just the idea that we cannot criticise people lest it be expanded to encompass the whole race/religion]
 
What amazes me about this film is the amount of violence in it.

Its an aweful atrocity for us (from the Christian point of view) to read, view, etc.. violent paintings, movies, music, etc... even if there is a higher lesson in it all (taking that lesson isn't directly christian). But the minute a violent christian movie comes out its not only ok for kids, but they WANT THEIR KIDS TO SEE IT.

Violence is violence and no matter where you take it from, it can be taken out of context, and the weak minded can use its influences to justify violent actions.

It just pisses me off the hypocrisy of it all that violence is only ok in a child's eye if its under the mask of a Christian/Catholic storyline.

Fuck that.

And while this movie might be superb, and Mel deserves a pat on the back for truly creating something that came from his heart, his beliefs.. and this isn't some media hollywood whore to the mainstream.. it kind of saddens me that the man that's such a bad ass in Payback, Lethal Weapon, and various other films has become a religious fanatic.
 
What Gibson has done is to use all of his considerable skill to portray the most dramatic moment of the most dramatic events since the dawn of time.

yea, well, that probably depends on your personal viewpoint

i wonder if somebody who does not attribute such importance to this event (i.e. does not believe that "god" was involved) will be as shaken by this film
 
has become a religious fanatic.

he already was the fanatic christian and supporter of the right wing of the republican party when he made all those funny-crappy blockbuster movies
 
afcone, it seems everything is anti-Semetic these days ... even protests AGAINST racism and anti-Semetism have been accused of being anti-Semetic by the Jewish groups. I am certainly not an anti-Semite, tons of my friends are Jewish and I prefer the Jewish faith to that of Christianity (although I believe in neither), yet what I have wrote here would even be labeled anti-Semetic these days, when saying a single bad word about the atrocities committed by Israel (and fully endorsed by the United States) equates to supporting terrorism and radical Islam.

I don't have anything to contribute regarding this movie, however, as I don't intend to see it, and if I did would likely be offended by it.
 
I really want to see this movie. I am not religious in the least.

However, I find it extremely irritating that the "anti-Semetic" crap is being sad - Jesus was killed by the Jews. End of story. That is "fact". So, why is saying it in a movie anti-semetic?
 
I fail to see the link to racism

maybe it is anti semetic maybe it aint , I don't even care what that realy means. the point is christians have a problem with the jews today even though this shit "happened" 2 millinia ago. BECAUSE OF their religion, they mask it behind bs characteristics but it is because of thier religion. We have the haullacost on multi media documentaion along side declining living whitness and it is widely denied, but we can exept the "fact" that the jews killed jesus?

it really is amazing what people will take for fact, because everyone else sais so. especially from erras with pen and paper as whitness, we live in the didgital erra and you still can't believe what you see, not that you could durring the cable, film, phonograph and radio erras or any other erra for that matter. why mention the almost inevedible hunt down of all that was truly hand written, when it was capable to mass print?

from what I can find the bible has been in print for about 600 years, though it started forming 1900 years ago and printed religious books themself have been around for 1336 years. Of coarse that had nothing to do with christianity. however, there was many generations to destroy libraries and write away before the christian bible was published.

this movie is cruisader propaganda

gibson lol I herd his father is even more "enteresting"

"All national institutions of churches, whether Jewish, Christian, or Turkish, appear to me, no other than human inventions, set up to terrify and enslave mankind and monopolize power and profit." – Thomas Paine
 
Yeah, I myself was surprised to find out that Mel Gibson has been very religious since he was a kid, and that his father was a cleric. Oh well.

I marvel at the strangely fetishistic fascination Catholics have with the Crucifixion--the more grotesque and demeaning, the more "true".
 
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Belisarius said:
Yeah, I myself was surprised to find out that Mel Gibson has been very religious since he was a kid, and that his father was a cleric. Oh well.

Why should Mel Gibson be ostracized for his religious beliefs though? That's not what you are doing, but thats what many are doing. They are disgusted with the fact that he is a strong believer in the christian faith. In a perfect world, I suppose no one would be "boycotted" for their religious beliefs because that is clearly one of the cornerstones of American society, and if you listen to Revolutionary historians like Gordon Wood and Roark the like that is one of the foundations America is built on.

It's shocking to me that those on the left in America, so outspoken about upholding the constitutional right to free speech, secularism, etc are so smitten by the fact that one man out of hundreds of actors is religious and lets his beliefs translate into their everyday life and profession. I dont see him ramming his beliefs down the throat of the general public, and yet there is such a fuss to patronize the man for having beliefs.
 
^ i think you need to chill man. The man made a movie that is pretty contraversal and has even admited that it is probably capable of destroying his career but he's ok with that. Just because you dont agree with his message or what he believes doesn't make it crusader propaganda.. omg8(

I'd like to see this movie, just to see how it portrays situations and events. I respect him for putting his beliefs out there like that, everybody else in politics/show business/etc is so wishy washy trying to be politically correct.
 
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shouldnt this be in Film in Television or at least T&A?

it strikes me as odd that a movie that is suspected anti-semitic gets so much attention in the US, considering that jews are 2% of the US population. 10% of americans claim no religion, yet you never hear about movies that are anti-non-religious
 
antinazi77 said:
WHY SHOULD HE BE CAPATALIZING ON A WAR BUSH CALLED A "CRUSADE"?
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Um, I guess I'm an idiot here - I don't get how this has a damn thing with any war that Bush had.

Little help?
 
how's your strawman

DigitalDuality said:

It's an aweful atrocity for us (from the Christian point of view) to read, view, etc.. violent paintings, movies, music, etc... even if there is a higher lesson in it all (taking that lesson isn't directly christian)

Huh?
 
antinazi77 said:
WHY SHOULD HE BE CAPATALIZING ON A WAR BUSH CALLED A "CRUSADE"?

Gibson has had the ability to make this movie for atleast a decade or two, why now?

a) what makes you think he could have made this movie decades ago?

b) considering that until recently there was no advertising, virtually no word of mouth, and the fact that gibson didn't even want subtitles in the movie, makes you think he is somehow "capitalizing" on a war? your link doesn't even have anything to do with either mel gibson or the movie. remember that the movie was largely finished more than a year (two years?) ago - until recently he couldn't find a distributor for it as it was considered too controversial.

c) would you please do all of us a favor and try and form coherent thoughts here in the future?
 
antinazi77 said:
maybe it is anti semetic maybe it aint , I don't even care what that realy means. the point is christians have a problem with the jews today even though this shit "happened" 2 millinia ago. BECAUSE OF their religion, they mask it behind bs characteristics but it is because of thier religion. We have the haullacost on multi media documentaion along side declining living whitness and it is widely denied, but we can exept the "fact" that the jews killed jesus?

[gaagabla...]

Please, please, PLEASE learn to spell, write, and/or view the world outside of a pre-programmed "good guy instigator" attitude before speaking like that again. We're all of course aware that everyone has a voice - yet it's my own opinion that yours is entirely warped by the sort of propaganda that prays on the strictly indignant. Let's just do a short review of your post here (without anymore admittedly cheap spelling/structure attacks, to save time):

-You apparently don't even know the meaning of "anti semetic", despite proudly claiming title as "antinazi". Do you actually know what a Nazi (was), or even what modern association of the title would in logical terms mean? That was not meant as sarcastic question

-Yeah; way to say it - most or all Christians indeed have big problems with the Jews. Go to a bible study and it's always the same freaking thing, man.. soccer Moms and ignorant rednecks talking about that con of a Jew banker they had to deal with, how the Holocaust was faked, or why Israel should get its' collective, filthy, Jesus killing ass off of rightful Palestinian land. Simply bravo!

-So since the event potrayed can't be proven; this movie is most likely then a tool of !!!WAR ON TERROR PROPAGANDA!!! Fucking WOW, buddy. I'm sure the world converts will be vast after the $6 popcorn runs out. And as for current Christian populations - this surely has the mass media potential to reinforce their faith to go fight those ragheads. I mean, those Jews killed Jesus in the movie and I cried so hard, and Jews live pretty close to mulsim terrorists, right? Great - if they're all pretty much the same people, let the B-52's loose, Sam!

Buddy, honestly.. go out and live to learn, FOR YOURSELF. All you are now is a drone of an entirely different enemy - one as ignorant as you currently hope to put down
 
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