They should totally bring Robin in for the next movie. Heath Ledger could play him, I mean he was great in Brokeback Mountain, and the role wouldn't be a huge stretch from a gay cowboy.
A good movie, but I think it was overhyped a bit. My friends said it was a must see, and that I was missing out. After I saw it, I felt that it wasn't nearly as good as they all claimed.
Regardless it was a good movie, and such a shame that Heath Ledger is no longer with us.
A good movie, but I think it was overhyped a bit. My friends said it was a must see, and that I was missing out. After I saw it, I felt that it wasn't nearly as good as they all claimed.
Regardless it was a good movie, and such a shame that Heath Ledger is no longer with us.
I agree...while I did find it to be an awesome film (and the best of the Batman movies to date), I don't really think it lived up to the extraordinary hype. Maybe I just waited to long to see it and thus my expectations rose too far (just saw it a couple days ago for the first time).
I will, however, say that Heath's performance lived up to all the hype and then some. I was blown away by his portrayal of the Joker. Maybe it's because I'm of a younger generation and wasn't old enough to remember when Nicholson's Joker first came around, but I honestly think Heath's psychopathic, sinister and all around darker portrayal of the Joker will far outlive Jack's more comic approach, in my humble opinion. Then again that could have more to do with the style of the director...
For perhaps the first time in my movie-watching life I can say that a hugely-hyped summer blockbuster has completely & utterly exceeded my expectations. Not only exceeded them but smashed through them like a fucking freight train.
Heath Ledger's Joker was a simply astounding performance. Macabre, twisted, unhinged, utterly amoral & completely devoid of any kind of reason or remorse he was everything the Joker should be. His spiel in the hospital was spine-tingling, but every second that he was on the screen I was just in awe of what I was seeing. So many memorable moments from him, but my favourite is probably the shot when
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he's just escaped from police custody & he's hanging his head out of the car window, the wind blowing his hair & his face contorted with the taste of freedom. That shot really sent shivers down my spine. Or maybe it was the bit when he walked away from the hospital. Or the magic trick with the pencil. Or the stories about his scars. Or....I think you catch my drift.
One thing that is definitely worth looking out for if you see it a second time is his face when the bombs on the boats fail to go off. He's a larger than life character that completely dominates the screen for every second that he's on it, but his facial tics & mannerisms are riddled with subtle nuances.
Everyone else was superb too, especially Gary Oldman as Commissioner Gordon. It was great to see him play such a large part in the movie.
What really surprised me though was just how deeply (for a supposed action film) it went into its exploration of a dualistic morality tale. The Joker's insane anarchistic outlook pitched against Batman's commitment to justice & the greater good. It was far more than your bog standard binary good vs. evil battle, I thought. The scene on the boats & in particular Harvey Dent's story (which i found utterly compelling) really fleshed out this aspect of the movie & tilted it into a whole different light for me. Although the hand-wringing over a surveillance society & nods towards the relinquishment of freedoms in the face of terrorism were a little heavy-handed perhaps, Christopher Nolan is to be applauded for really delving deep into the dark questions that the character of Batman is able to pose. The Dark Knight is the first comic-book movie that I've seen that to me transcends the genre in this way. It's a stunning piece of work from all involved.
I adored every minute of it, it's without doubt one of the best sequels in movie history & in Heath Ledger's performance has something that will be spoken of for years to come.
^yeah totally. That first shot you mentioned is really haunting. the sound is lynchian, the car swerving back and forth making the background chaotic. these all amount to a exquisitely eery piece
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It looks like he was on drugs. Maybe not but that's a lot of shifting around and seeming a little out of it.
I really enjoyed this movie. I am usually in the business of picking a movie to peices and even if I found some aspects (I wished Hugh Jackman was Batman and the sonar mobiles was a rather far fetched, but considering some of the absurd CGI I have seen in the last decade it wasn't that bad) slightly off beat. I disagree about the length of the movie, all I can think of when it got to the end was when does the next screening start as I din't want to leave my seat. I have never felt like that after a movie. Heath, Aaron and Gary put in splendid performances. I may not have thought much of Heath as an actor. I couldn't get through Brokeback Mountain not because he did poorly because I was uncomfortable in the bits I saw, but his previous work hardly inspired me to watch his work. But the Joker was just briliant. RIP!
I watched this yesterday in IMAX (First time at IMAX!! I live in a cave! LOL).
This is a good movie, especially towards the end. It is, however, not without its faults:
- The panning camera does as much bad as it does good. In certain scenes (such as when he jumps off a building), it has a brilliant effect. In other (such as when he's talking face-to-face with Alfred near the beginning), it is just terrible.
- The script also seemed to have its kinks. I thought that especially the opening sequence was rather badly dialogued. Also, I'm not sure just how much I approve of the choppy, confusing narrative.
- The soundtrack is pretty basic and forgettable.
That said, I think it had some of the most memorable characters in any batman movie. I was rather shocked at how well-suited Ledger was to the Joker - I simply didn't expect him to be. The result is a very convincing performance. As well, good-looking Aaron Eckhart (with whom I am not at all familiar) did a fantastic job portraying my favourite Batman Villain.
Favourite scenes include:
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The Hong Kong scene, the chopper-crash/truck flip (one of those rewind and play back again moments), and the part with the two ships.
^ for more aaron eckhart, check out "thank you for smoking".
i really dug the soundtrack to tdk. it portrays a sweet fiercely exciting dark tone rather than a standard cheese inspirational superhero fair. kinda akin to the beautifully dark and melacholic mood setting opening tune to GTAIV.
i was suprised that heath got the part to be honest, i mean, he had hardly done any major movies before this other than "Brokeback Mountain", from the crappy aussie soap "Home and Away" to a non blockbuster which i actually loved "A Knights Tale" to "The Dark Knight" is a great career move, sad he had to die so young, I would have loved to see him in films until his old age like pacino and de niro and other long lasting actors.
I am going to take it upon myself to watch every single film he has been in, i recently watched "The Order/The Sin Eater" the other day and I thought that was a good film although it flopped in the states.
Sad to see him go and if there is another batman movie made NO-ONE could possibly match his joker performance
I've already seen it in IMAX twice. :D Funny, this is one of those movies that I didn't realize how good it was until a full day after I'd seen it, when I just couldn't get the images and lines out of my head.
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What I really liked about this movie was something that is always played upon in the comics but which I've never seen successfully translated to the big screen: the almost love-hate relationship between the Joker and Batman. When you think about it, they're practically alter egos. Burton's first Batman touched on it, but only this one explicitly defined it.
The movie also works on many different levels, IMO: Batman sacrifices his reputation the same way Harvey Dent (almost) sacrificed his to save him, Alfred choosing to keep Bruce ignorant of the fact that Rachel would have rejected him, Two-Face forcing Gordon to "lie" just as he thought he'd lied when he told Rachel she'd be alright...parts were almost operatic.
Ledger's Joker is perfect, and memorable not because of his lines, as much as what he represents: total anarchy, an "agent of chaos", as he says. The scene where he burns the money is as good a representation of his nature as any I've seen onscreen or in the comics, proving that Joker is indeed just like the bandit Alfred told Bruce about.
In all respects, this is going to be a very, very tough act to follow, especially if Nolan et al. won't be at the helm anymore.
ok, first off, am i the only one that thinks batman's voice changed in this movie? it was like he was trying too hard to be badass. it was all low and raspy and he couldn't speak a full sentence in that voice.
aside from that....
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heath did a fantastic job, but i found irony in the scene where he was hanging upside down and said "you and i are destined to do this forever" which is incidental because they CAN'T do this forever, because he's dead.
Several people have complained about Batman's voice, which did seem to be noticeably more gravelly than in "Begins"...it didn't bother me, but I can see why it annoys some.