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  • Film & TV Moderators: ghostfreak

Film: Slumdog Millionaire

Rate this movie.

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    Votes: 4 6.8%
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It may be a moving love story.

It may make you laugh or cry.

It's not great art.

Well, it just so happened that it did make me laugh.

And cry.

And think.

A lot.

And I know from talking to dozens of friends and co-workers and from reading dozens of reviews that I'm not nearly the only one who was THAT affected by this film.

And it also just so happens to be the case that IN MY OPINION, anything that INTENTIONALLY makes so many people LAUGH *AND* CRY *AND* THINK *A LOT* is BY DEFINITION ***GREAT ART.***
 
Maybe you should stop capitalizing words as you've done in the above post and in the quote I was referring to. It causes you to appear as if you're taking this a little too seriously and it doesn't assist you at all in making your point. A commercial piece of entertainment that pleases it's audience is not instantly a great art piece of art.

I understand how the film moved you but I struggle to see how it made you think a lot. I don't consider it to be very deep. But then again, perhaps I'm missing something.

What did/ do you find-thought provoking about Slumdog?
 
IMO: Anyone who says this film doesn't deserve TOP awards should state which 2008 films do deserve TOP awards! (Then we'll see how shallow U are!)
 
Here's some films which I think were excellent, original, unique and / or special in 2008:

Waltz With Bashir
Baader Mienhoff Complex
Ano Una
The Wave
La Zona
Blindness
[REC]

Haven't heard of them? Thought not. :p

This is by no means my definitive best films of 2008 list though, just some I remembered off the top of my head that stood out.
 
^^^ Okay, but what's the point of these "excellent, original, unique and / or special" films?

Point of Slumdog is how a billion or more ppl on earch live in Hell-Holes like Mumbai with dogmatic religious fanatics killing mothers & children. Everyone hopeing to hit a jackpot of $$$, miracles happen.

IMO: I'd like to star in a movie where I'm a Messiah, with 12 gorgeous/famous disciples (like al gore, Britney Spears etc.) and thousands of virgin girl worshippers saving the world by eliminating money laws and international boundaries.
 
There are many different points to these films, I'm not going to go into detail of every one of them. Do your own research.

And so what if the point of Slumdog is the following: a billion or more ppl on earch live in Hell-Holes like Mumbai with dogmatic religious fanatics killing mothers & children. Everyone hopeing to hit a jackpot of $$$, miracles happen.

How does this make the film a masterpeice, art or worthy of all these awards?

You've done nothing to convince anyone that this film deserves all the credit which you and others are giving it.

It's quite simply not a masterpeice. It just has a 'nice', heart warming story like many films. Doesn't make a film good.
 
Agreed. If that's the point of Slumdog then it doesn't have much to say. A homeless man winning millions on a game show isn't poignant... and what's the message exactly? That miracles happen? Cause I don't remember seeing any homeless people on television recently.
 
Max,

I'm not too fond of what TheSpade said in that one line in that one particular post, but AT LEAST he adds value to BL with substantive ideas.

You, on the other hand, bring virtually nothing to the Bluelight table, and along with many other nearly-ten-meaningless-posts-per-day-since-joining-Bluelight posters, are simply emblematic of the downside of allowing people who have very little to add participate in what are otherwise high-level discussions.

But alas, just as in the name of freedom, we allow people with 90 IQ's who dropped out of high school and couldn't locate Wyoming on a map help decide who will become our next president, we allow "people" like YOU to "participate" in what would otherwise be much higher-level discussions.

Did it ever occur to you that you're allowed to make posts that actually HELP the discussion, and have absolutely nothing to do with attempting to make other people feel like shit?
 

Maybe you should stop capitalizing words as you've done in the above post and in the quote I was referring to. It causes you to appear as if you're taking this a little too seriously and it doesn't assist you at all in making your point. A commercial piece of entertainment that pleases it's audience is not instantly a great art piece of art.

Maybe you should stop instructing people who make six-figures largely based upon the quality of their writing how to write in an informal setting.

Especially when you, as my self-appointed writing instructor, don't seem to know the distinction between "its" and "it's."

Back on topic, I do see your point about Slumdog not being especially "deep" or "thought provoking."

I was, however (and apparently, so were countless others), so drawn in by the acting, the history, the cinematography, the format, the nostalgia (of growing up and acting ridiculously) and YES, the love story.

No, it didn't make me THINK as much as The Usual Suspects (another of my all-time faves) did, but The Usual Suspects didn't move me to tears, either.

So, I'll restate:

Slumdog Millionaire:

(a) made me laugh A LOT; AND

(b) moved me emotionally A LOT (several times to tears); AND

(c) made me think A GOOD BIT (although admittedly NOT quite as much as some other great movies).

A piece of art does NOT have to do absolutely everything imaginable in order for some people to reasonably call it great.

If you personally weren't moved sufficiently by it and/or found it formulaic, I respect your opinion; I thought that Forrest Gump was monumentally overrated, and the fact that it defeated BOTH Shawshank and Pulp Fiction is one of the greatest travesties of justice in the history of the Academy Awards.

I think I understand your critique of Slumdog, and why YOU don't personally find it to rise to the level of "GREAT."

But, alas, as we all know, art is subjective, and many many many well-respected movie-reviewers and movie-enthusiasts would happen to disagree with you on this one, just as many idiots ;) disagreed with ME on "Stupid Is As Stupid Does."

Peace On You,

LL
 
If I was you I'd check out some of the films I've listed above, you can read subtitles AND watch a film at the same time yeah?

Once you've seen those I'm sure you still won't think Slumdog is this artistic masterpeice nor the best of 2008.
 
If I was you I'd check out some of the films I've listed above, you can read subtitles AND watch a film at the same time yeah?

Sorry, could you call me up at (800) YES WE'RE BOTH WISE-ASSES and read the above--referenced sentence to me?

I couldn't manage to grasp the full meaning, as I am currently listening to Mekka's masterpiece "Diamondback" and my pee-sized brain can't possibly do THAT *AND* at the same time, read. ;)

In all earnestnes, thank you for the recommendations - I shall do the best I can to squeeze as many of them as possible into my schedule.

I truly hope that I love at least one of them, but even if I end up loving ALL of them, I have seen literally THOUSANDS of movies in my lifetime, and Slumdog would STILL remain in the Top One Percent.

Peace,

LL
 
Maybe you should stop instructing people who make six-figures largely based upon the quality of their writing how to write in an informal setting.

Especially when you, as my self-appointed writing instructor, don't seem to know the distinction between "its" and "it's."

I wasn't correcting you because your grammar was bad or anything. It was just a suggestion. I didn't mean to imply that you don't have good language skills. Rather that the way you're writing makes you come across a bit desperate. Like someone yelling in a conversation.

Heres another suggestion: Maybe you shouldn't mention your salary out of context in conversations either... or tell everybody how smart and successful you are.. or imply that only intelligent people should be 'allowed' on your precious site..

:)

allowing people who have very little to add participate in what are otherwise high-level discussions

Looking back over the thread no offense but I don't really see how you were contributing to a 'high-level discussion'...

-Td

On another note I'm glad you came to your senses and admitted that the film isn't deep (cause it clearly isn't) or particularly thought-provoking.
 
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The film is beautifully shot in a series of earthy tones that compliment the Indian vibe. The pallette seems to capture India's widening gap between a glorious deprivation and a burgeoning apirational middle class society.

I also felt that the film drew on the typically irreverant humour of previous English-Asian films such as "Bend It Like Beckham" and "East is East", yet lacked the ability to balance such levity with the emotional depth or poignancy that either of those two films possessed.

Dev Patel was incredibly bland to watch in comparison the actors portraying his younger self. On that note, the film's internal chronography was poorly managed in places, with Jamal (Patel) looking like the perenial gangly tenager, while both Salim and Latika developed a twenty-something maturity that fit their characters. Latika (Freida Pinto) particularly looked awkward in her more steamy scenes with Patel... and oh my God... how hot is she? Perhaps Patel's percieved youth is an intentional reflection of his comparitive innocence, but it didn't quite work for me. Definitely didn't deserve an Oscar nomination, let alone a win.

Fun to watch. Hilarious in places... but nothing more than that - despite it being head and shoulders above most of the films I've watched recently. Not quite sure what all the hype has been about.
 
There are many different points to these films, I'm not going to go into detail of every one of them.

Just name ONE of the best points of ONE film U think makes a better point than Slumdog Millionaire . . . so far no one but me raised the biggest issue: HOW PPL ACTUALLY LIVE IN THIS WORLD. Their ignorance of how Billions of people live in this world is their bliss. Slumdog Millionaire puts the reality of poverty & capitalism out in the open. That's Reality!

If a film doesn't make a Real Point there is no point to seeing it. It's NOT art but F-art!
 
My wife goes to Mumbai on a fairly regular basis. She is of Indian decent and so by extension is a large part of my extended family. (None of them liked the film by the way). Anyway my point is that I'm not ignorant and neither are a lot of the people you assume have the same level of awareness as you did prior to seeing this film. Slumdog isn't a pioneer. It's not the first film to expose the rest of the world to poverty in India...
 
^^^ I don't blame them 4 not likeing it . . . the poverty and ignorance (stupid religious wars) is nothing to be proud about!

My mom and the millions of rich Americans, whose ignorance is their bliss are the ones who need to see this movie . . . I keep telling my mom to take a trip to the south side of Chicago on a warm summer day 2 see how the other 3/4s of the world lives.

My first trip into Mexico was a culture shock . . . Slumdog Millionaire is a culture shock . . . that's why it's rated "R", no one under 17 admitted.

Bangkok was also kinda shocking but by then, I've seen everything!
 
Perhaps it is 'a culture shock' but that doesn't make it a great movie.

I don't blame them 4 not likeing it . . . the poverty and ignorance (stupid religious wars) is nothing to be proud about!

Nice assumption there. Just because they're of Indian ancestry the only reason they have to dislike it is shame?

Maybe they thought it was a bad movie for other reasons.
 
Just name ONE of the best points of ONE film U think makes a better point than Slumdog Millionaire . . . so far no one but me raised the biggest issue: HOW PPL ACTUALLY LIVE IN THIS WORLD. Their ignorance of how Billions of people live in this world is their bliss. Slumdog Millionaire puts the reality of poverty & capitalism out in the open. That's Reality!

If a film doesn't make a Real Point there is no point to seeing it. It's NOT art but F-art!

Why don't you try watching some of those films first then we can have a discussion on them? No point in me raising points from them if you haven't seen them as you couldn't possibly debate it.

Your making out Slumdog to be something it wasn't, it is not an indepth look at life in the slums in India nor a really gritty peice on poverty and capitalism. There's actually not much reality in the film, the whole premise for the film was ridicolous as were the scenes where we found out how he knew the answers to all the questions. 8)

the ignorance is nothing to be proud about!

Same could be said for the Western world particularly America.

My mom and the millions of rich Americans, whose ignorance is their bliss are the ones who need to see this movie .

I hardly think this move is the one which is going to changes peoples lives, remove their ignorance and make them see life differently. Give me a break. 8)
 
Waltz With Bashir
Baader Mienhoff Complex
Ano Una
The Wave
La Zona
Blindness

The first 4 are propaganda, "La Zona" is fantasy with no real message (sounds kinda artsy-fartsy) the last one is gross, creepy! :p

Okay, I did my "research:"
 
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