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Film: Slumdog Millionaire

Rate this movie.

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    Votes: 4 6.8%
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    Votes: 7 11.9%
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The first 4 are propaganda? For what exactly?

You've not done your research properly I'm afraid. How Ano Una in particular could ever be described as propaganda for anything I do not know. You should try watching it, it's a truely unique and original film much more worthy of an award than Slumdog.

La Zona which you claim to be fantasy isn't all that unreal. It's about the social divide in Mexico, kids living in slums having to resort to crime in order to survive and how the middle class want to keep them seperated and live cosy lives away from it all and how they think having money means they should be able to do as they please. Doesn't sound all that different from Slumdog now does it?

We're not going to debate this any further until you've seen these films or at least watched a varied selection of world cinema, not just Hollywood type stuff and have some sort of grasp on what a masterpeice might be.
 
^^ Ur right, "Ana Una" isn't propaganda but a stupid fantasy.

U call these "masterpeices!! lol!!!! U sound like most of the movie reviewers I read and some of the professors I had, which is why I dropped outta college.
 
University of Southern Illinois . . . I was pursuing a degree in religion & phiosophy . . . figured I'd learn more on my own. Some of the profs were very arrogant!
 
I really enjoyed this movie.

I initially thought the way the story was being told by having flashbacks was a little stupid, but once I dealt with that it and went with it I found it actually added to the movie by letting you have a rest from the intencity that was happening in the journey and change your perspective to a much lighter hearted one. That WWTBAM host was such a knob!

I cringed in my seat when the guys eyes were burnt out.

I was astonished at the state of the slums...OMG. To the person that said they probabaly were shown to be nicer than the real ones (after not even watching it...), well fuck me....I'd hate to see the real ones! These people are living on a rubbish tip and eating scraps of food out of whatever they find. This really made me feel how lucky I am living in luxury. Yeah I should probably know how badly most indians have it but hey, I didn't. Poor fuckers.

I was emotional at the end of the movie when the phone a friend turned out to be his love interest. I thought that was cool.

I also liked that the the answer posed to the question at the start of the movie was "It is written". After reading The Alchemist a few months ago, "It is written" is a phrase I understand and have been using now since the book. I think the answer to many things that happen in life is, "It is written". Sometimes things happen for the sake of happening and there really is no reason at all why they should. It happens to me all the time. If something bad happens or my life changes unexpectedly for no reason at all then I have always thought (way before The Alchemist) that things would turn out for the best. I think this is exactly what the movie is about and is why it seems unrealistic to some people. That's the idea. It is a movie that shows you it doesn't matter what your beginnings are, anything can happen if you want it to.

The fact that they love each other doesn't need more foundation than the fact that they do. I love my girlfried simply because I do. There was no one moment that happened apart from the shadow on the sundial making many revolutions. Things happen because they happen.

It is written.
 
^^ Ur right, "Ana Una" isn't propaganda but a stupid fantasy.

U call these "masterpeices!! lol!!!! U sound like most of the movie reviewers I read and some of the professors I had, which is why I dropped outta college.

I never said these films were masterpeices just good, unique, different, special films released in 2008.

You need to watch Ano Una and see why it's so special and unique. It has nothing to do with the story line. And if Ano Una is a stupid fantasy then so is Slumdog. It's not a true story you know.

The amount of films you've seen is clearly very limited to Hollywood blockbusters so I'm not going to further debate what is and isn't a masterpeice with you. Waste of time. :)
 
I also liked Slumdog and I thought it was a good movie but I didn't think that it was as good as Lovelife wrote.

I have Indian friends who are Hindu and from Madras and I'm not sure if they'd like this movie, my friend's ex-roommate is Muslim and I don't think he'd be happy about this movie either.
 
My wife goes to Mumbai on a fairly regular basis. She is of Indian decent and so by extension is a large part of my extended family. (None of them liked the film by the way). Anyway my point is that I'm not ignorant and neither are a lot of the people you assume have the same level of awareness as you did prior to seeing this film. Slumdog isn't a pioneer. It's not the first film to expose the rest of the world to poverty in India...

I like Slumdog a lot, but "Salaam Bombay" is 20x the movie Slumdog is. Maybe thats why i like SM so much, it reminds me of an adventurous albeit slightly flawed attempt at recreating "Salaam Bombay".



http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0096028/
 
saw it last night. loved it. I dont get how anyone couldnt like this movie or see it without being emotionally moved.

or if your just a complete snob who wont appreciate this movie, at least see it for this reason. Freida Pinto the love interest is probably the most beautiful woman on earth... seriously
 
I'll tell you why people might not like it. It wasn't a very interesting story, the premise was terrible and the plot not great, the acting was poor from the main character, nothing new or different about it, sub standard love story, not very believable, a bit boring and there was very little to get emotional about. I could go on...

I am a film snob but that's not why I don't like this move, with all the praise it was getting I fully expected to love it. It dissapointed so much I can't even begin to explain. It's nothing more than an average film on every level.
 
Here's some films which I think were excellent, original, unique and / or special in 2008:
Blindness

Haven't heard of them? Thought not. :p

This is by no means my definitive best films of 2008 list though, just some I remembered off the top of my head that stood out.



I didn't particularly care for Blindness, but I thought SM was a great movie. that's just my opinion. and it doesn't require a prolonged assessment, as I've seen throughout.
 
Did anyone catch the parallels between Jamal diving through shit to meet his hero and Renton from Trainspotting (also directed by Boyle) diving through shit to retreive his dropped dope?
 
Simon Beaufoy's from my area. It's nice to know that there's artists and writers from here that are getting recognition :)
 
Seriously?

It is an exploitation film in that it exploits historically bad conditions in India while ignoring what good India has undergone.

We are bombarded with images of people dying, religious violence, horrible poverty, child abuse, etc. in the first half of this movie, and all of this weight (which is largely new to audiances, as most people don't watch the news, foreign films, haven't been to India, etc.) is placed on the shoulders of these little kids. And through all of this bad stuff, we are meant to feel bad for them. And when they do find success in the end, we feel extra-happy for them because of what they have "been through."

This is just one part of India, though, and the director wants us to believe that this is the "real India," that this is what it would be like for everyone. At the time these kids were growing up, India has some of the best education programs in the world, most benevolent aid and care organizations for the lower class, etc. Crime and business corruption rates in India have historically been much lower than a lot of comparable developing economies. But this movie covers none of that!

This is not my original argument, but I heard it elsewhere and it's good: If one were to make a movie about kids roughing it in the Aftermath of the Hurricane Katrina, with a sugar-coated lovestory at the end, would an American audiance accept it as a genuine film about the American struggle? No, not at all. I know the countries aren't exactly the same, but the point is that this movie is trying lead the audiance into believing that India was this bad for everyone, when the reality is that it was not.

It compiles all of the ills of Indian culture into one compact story, complete and ready for the uninformed and unknowledgable Western audiances. Imagine if this was done in America - a movie made (somehow) about gangbangers, teenage mothers, drug addicts, racial violence, religious hatred, etc. with one or two 'good kids' somewhere in the middle, and it was passed off to the rest of the world as a movie about "America." No! Well that's what this movie is doing to India, and it's appalling and offensive to Indians!

It wants its social message (that of, I guess, love is there for those who perservere) to be reinforced by ultra-realism, but it picks and chooses from Indian history for the realism it presents. And in doing this, it makes India not look like a developing economy with great potential, but a land of morally good poor people, but that anyone who has money is corrupt and underhanded.

It is also exploitative in its depiction of the main guy as a call center employee. You know, because isn't that the only way to be successful in India these days, err, to handle calls about Westerners' technology?!

This movie makes no attention to detail, leaving those who are bothered by inaccuracies, well, bothered!

- The bad guys have no problem finding the girl at the trainstation when she flees at first, but not a single person in all of Mumbai recognizes the kid who just won Millionare, standing at te same station a short while after his victory? Hmmm.
- Local police, local gangsters and kids from the slums all speak English, haphazardly interwoven with their Hindi? Ya, okay....
- Call centers like that do not keep records of mobile phone listings.

This movie is pro-American/anti-Indian in a very sly way.

In "American culture," it is supported that the hard worker, who comes from a very humble background can make it. In contrast, it is made to appear that Indian culture goes to any extreme to prevent genuine, hard workers from rising to the top. And only through a trick of the system was this kid able to break through and have American-style success and love. To what extent American and Indian cultures differ in this regard is a very real political topic, but again one that is considered so crudely in this movie that it makes it all appear incredibly ignorant of what it means to be a successful Indian.

It seems like the only people who DON'T like this movie are Indians and Indian nationals. I've seen several reviews (on the television and online) of Indians ripping this thing to shreds, being embarrassed by it, etc. I thought these things while seeing the movie, but it was solidified in my mind as I read such reviews.

It's a very generic 'foreign view of India' - from a foreign director, made for a Western Audiance, what more might one expect than an overbudgeted, overhyped and practically unbelievable piece of exploitation?

Okay, so all of this aside, the kids are cute and it makes us feel good. I'm sorry, but I cannot simply "feel good" from something I know to be so inconsistent, inaccurate and offensive to Indians.
 
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