You got that right frank. It was a lesson for me in the sense that i've learned to trust no one in the ability to 'hold-on' to rc's for me. My friend was supposed to have the chemicals in question hidden away, since he isn't a psychedelic enthusiast himself, but in response to my blatant trust he gave away more than half of my collection. lessons learned!
Fighting on LSD/Shrooms
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Toast to the Spirits
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I have a buddy who's into MMA. He likes to train while on acid, mushrooms and even MDMA! Personally, I find mushrooms to be the jazz as far as getting in tune with such physical/mental capabilities. Fortunately, I've avoided fights throughout my entire life but I am fully confident I could handle my own if I had to. I have seen some really impressive exhibition fights with my friends while they were under the influence of mushrooms...reminds me of moves I've seen while playing video games.
Crashing
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My buddy and I were sitting on a ledge, tripping really hard one evening on Acid, and this group of drunken kids walk by and a baseball cap lands directly in front of my feet. I pick it up and turn around and the owner of the hat, a tall skinny drunken punk idiot looks at me with disgust and says "Don't touch my hat you fucking long haired faggot." So i pulled it back away suddenly to give myself a moment to explain that my intention was only to help. I was in deep at this point and felt truly damaged by his words and actions. I then handed it back and he got even more violent, so my buddy got up and began to try to reason with him (he was looking for a fight). So then he starts to walk away and says "You're lucky i don't fuck your pussy ass up." So my buddy asks him about that, and he replied "No not you, that long haired faggot." So I stepped up and asked him in an overly intrigued tone, "You want to fight me?"
At this point my trip just took a complete 180, i was in lovey-dubby mode and now my vision was like crosshairs on an M45 Quadmount. There were shapes that were outlining the perfect route of travel between my fist and his face, almost like a video game except real. My blood pressure was immediately much higher and my happy expression just peeled off my face. I felt like i was seconds from genocide, like a killing machine. I remember smiling really wide, and he came at me to throw a punch.
I predicted his moves easily, being that he was drunk. I caught his fist with my hand, pulled him in and gave him a very tight bear hug and in that moment my trip flip flopped yet again, and rather than grate his face on the concrete I instead sang the chorus of "All You Need is Love" by The Beatles over and over. I finally let him go and backing away he continued to talk shit until he made it into the door of his apartment, and the rest of his posse was left standing around laughing. It was an interesting trip, and unfortunately for days after i regretted not beating the shit out of him, but I had an incredible advantage in my opinion. I think there are certain planes you can establish with psychedelic drugs that increase your bodily awareness to highly manipulatable levels.
At this point my trip just took a complete 180, i was in lovey-dubby mode and now my vision was like crosshairs on an M45 Quadmount. There were shapes that were outlining the perfect route of travel between my fist and his face, almost like a video game except real. My blood pressure was immediately much higher and my happy expression just peeled off my face. I felt like i was seconds from genocide, like a killing machine. I remember smiling really wide, and he came at me to throw a punch.
I predicted his moves easily, being that he was drunk. I caught his fist with my hand, pulled him in and gave him a very tight bear hug and in that moment my trip flip flopped yet again, and rather than grate his face on the concrete I instead sang the chorus of "All You Need is Love" by The Beatles over and over. I finally let him go and backing away he continued to talk shit until he made it into the door of his apartment, and the rest of his posse was left standing around laughing. It was an interesting trip, and unfortunately for days after i regretted not beating the shit out of him, but I had an incredible advantage in my opinion. I think there are certain planes you can establish with psychedelic drugs that increase your bodily awareness to highly manipulatable levels.
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Exactly. This is definitely true and I've experienced it myself.
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One time I was on 2ce at an electronic music festival sitting in the grass talking to a friend (this is what happens when EDM goes mainstream and you have a bunch of D bags showing up to raves that have no idea about PLUR) this kid walks up to me while I'm talking to my friend out of the blue. And smiles laughing and says, "what are you trying to say?" as I start to reply he slaps me lightly in the face. I grab his leg and pull him to the ground and jump on him and start pounding away, my friend also jumps on him and holds him down for me. The cops then ran up and we got off the kid and he ran away, I still tried to go after him and grabbed his shirt but he ripped away. Then the cops ask what happened then they left. I noticed my bag of 2ce was then missing from my pocket, it had fallen out during the scuffle but I eventually found it in the grass.
Not sure I believe you because it's so unbelievable aha. But if it is true then this is truly amazing. In fact if I was more Religious I'd stick it in the new testament.
IamMe90
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Someone lightly slaps you in the face you start beating the shit out of him? And then after a cop approaches you and the kid runs away, you start going after him to beat him up more? Dude, you sound like a fucked up, incredibly violent person. Chill the fuck out.
I can't believe the amount of replies here that seem to relish violence for its own sake, ESPECIALLY while tripping. Bad vibes guys... bad vibes...
IamMe90
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Wow, more terrible, bloodthirsty human beings. I don't know what kind of upbringing you had, but it must have been terribly uncivilized to give you the idea that stomping someone's face and shoving an unknown amount of a synthetic psychedelic drug down his gullet is an appropriate response to someone lightly slapping you in the face. Christ.
bloodshed344
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I guess sarcasm doesn't translate well... Yeah, that's been established. It's obvious I don't support the idea, but the idea is funny
It'd bring a whole new meaning to fighting on psychedelics.
Yeah, I had a similar experience while boxing one of my drunken friends while tripping. My friend started to brag and try to look like a bad ass in front of a couple of girls we were hanging with at the tomer. So he proceeds to say ill give anyone 25 bucks if they can lay me out in a boxing match, so knowing I had the advantage with my heightened senses and ability to see what was coming I strapped on the boxing gloves. My friend who is well over 250 and a few inches taller than me was surprised I took the challenge because everyone else was to scared, and my other friend even suggested that he could help me, but within ten seconds after starting the match he was flat on his ass and I was untouched. I found the experience of boxing actually flowed with the cid and it made my trip only that much better knowing that I could do something like that, although I could see if it was an actual fight how stressful it might be. But long story short that was some bomb ass weed I bought with that 25 bucks lol, and those videos of my friend getting his ass handed to him that quick by someone obviously with the disadvantage are priceless lmao
One of my first trips on LSD was in a night club - I was sitting with my mates then closed my eyes to enjoy the CEV's. When I opened them the manager of the place was staring at me so I got up and went to look for my mates. Anyway I stumbled on a fight and I became freaked, but I found a friend who took me outside and it all settled. Unpleasant to witness don't know how I would have coped if I was actually hit.
I don't get the urge to fight ever and never on drugs, (although alcohol is a different beast). Although one time trying to assemble some furniture while on ETH-LAD and 1P-LSD I got quite agitated and kicked the box around the room :0 that helped
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I don't get the urge to fight ever and never on drugs, (although alcohol is a different beast). Although one time trying to assemble some furniture while on ETH-LAD and 1P-LSD I got quite agitated and kicked the box around the room :0 that helped
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Burnt Offerings
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I witnessed an assault with a deadly weapon attack while tripping. It involved a large amount of human blood being spilled all over the floor and it was pretty traumatic
All over some really stupid miscommunication, too
All over some really stupid miscommunication, too
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I was robbed at knifepoint for some dosework whilst slinging L on lot about a dozen ago; suffice to say shit wouldn't gone down the way that it did then if it were now, I am not feelin' the universal love like I was then but nonethless I was a bit spun to proper fight at that point, and actually it was at that point that I relalized that you can't be all love and light and spun yourself if you wanna play supply side at events, now sure, that facçade is good for the biz but you gotta stay ready underneath to pull out some G shit or have some people behind you that will—never experienced fighting while tripping except for one occasion which was more just beating the fuck out of somebodg than a proper fight (I had my reasons suffice to say) but as some of the folks upside point out, but by these days I know how to carry myself more reflexes and all and the reflexes would probably come out and to the detriment of whoever was attacking me. God forbid if I was going strapped or had any kind of weapon, whatever training I had in either (and in a point blank kill type situation, it's not really a lot of training for either one) would've kicked it and it all would've ended in tears for everybody. Just in case anyone wanted any more reasons not to mix biz with getting spun, or getting spun with guns (or weapons of any sort) ... didn't keep us as young folks from driving around high as all hell on acid or shrooms shooting the shit out of stop signs and shit but like I said, we were young and dumb. And lucky.
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That's horrendous!
I can't imagine what must have been going through your head. 8(
After some discussion, this thread can stay open. I made a bit of an assumption as to its true nature, having only skimmed over it.
Just steer away from anything that might encourage violent confrontations or divulge into bragging about situations. Beyond wrestling with mates for fun, I personally think the idea of a physical confrontation whilst under the influence is something that should be actively avoided.
On topic (slightly): I've ventured into the city whilst on a decent dose of mushrooms, and thankfully my city is relatively safe around the nightclubs etc. I knew I'd be pretty screwed if I had to defend myself, though who knows what adrenaline may do to the effects of the mushrooms. I certainly couldn't coordinate a punch I'll say that much haha
Just steer away from anything that might encourage violent confrontations or divulge into bragging about situations. Beyond wrestling with mates for fun, I personally think the idea of a physical confrontation whilst under the influence is something that should be actively avoided.
On topic (slightly): I've ventured into the city whilst on a decent dose of mushrooms, and thankfully my city is relatively safe around the nightclubs etc. I knew I'd be pretty screwed if I had to defend myself, though who knows what adrenaline may do to the effects of the mushrooms. I certainly couldn't coordinate a punch I'll say that much haha
Tranced
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There are certain situations which if not rectified will result in innocents getting hurt.
I haven't had to fight but I've had to isuae a verbal put down and it was powerful and intense.
My friend was purposefully goading me and repeating the same question/word even though be knew (I kept telling him) that it was causing me distress.
In the end I just lost it. I did warn him but I ended up shouting at him with quite perfect articulation to the point that he went and spent the night in the tent in a state of heightened anxiety.
I tried to bring him back but he refused. It was really weird, especially having all the focus of the group on the energy of this negative confrontation. The rest of us had a great time after that.
The next day he admitted he was seeing how far he could push me and that it was like "being beaten up with words". I did warn him.
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Now, focusing on the original topic of this thread.
http://jop.sagepub.com/content/early/2016/04/16/0269881116642538.abstract
In reality, classical serotonergic psychedelics such as psilocybin are statistically associated with a reduction in violence. Set and setting are influential. Obviously responsible usage improves these benefits. Overall classical psychedelic medicines are associated with reductions in violent behavior in the end.
Sage Publications said:
http://jop.sagepub.com/content/early/2016/04/16/0269881116642538.abstract
In reality, classical serotonergic psychedelics such as psilocybin are statistically associated with a reduction in violence. Set and setting are influential. Obviously responsible usage improves these benefits. Overall classical psychedelic medicines are associated with reductions in violent behavior in the end.
One Thousand Words
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A mate who was notorious for dui decided he wanted to drive to get food in the middle of a heady trip. We all agreed that it was a bad idea but he was insistent. So I tossed his keys into the dark backyard which made him see red.
He threw a clumsy punch which I ducked easily, before I unleashed a right across his face which sent a psychedelic spray of blood across the room in slow motion, splattering against the wall.
We both stopped, looked at at each other, looked the wall and both burst into laughter.
We decided to order pizza.
He threw a clumsy punch which I ducked easily, before I unleashed a right across his face which sent a psychedelic spray of blood across the room in slow motion, splattering against the wall.
We both stopped, looked at at each other, looked the wall and both burst into laughter.
We decided to order pizza.
Hey guys
I have no idea myself but I thought I'd toss in a couple of anecdotes.
I remember taking Ecstasy once and I'm not sure if it was cut with speed or not. However I was an avid martial artist and I was talking to a girl while high and I asked her if she'd like to do some martial arts. She said she was worried about getting hit (totally don't blame her) but at the time felt I had awesome control over my techniques and even went as far as to show her how quick I could strike by striking and blocking pretend hits in the air. Surprisingly however, I was a lot faster than I was used to and luckily did not hit her as I demonstrated some strikes and blocks.
Now I don't know if that was all just perception and there really was no difference in my speed, but if I was perceiving it right and I was actually a lot faster, perhaps the flood of seratonin running through my system was having a greater effect on my nerves and receptors, or perhaps not.
Another thing that this post got me thinking about was the Vikings and their famed berzerker rage. I've heard that it was just all a mental state they were able to hype themselves up into and also heard that they made a psychotropic concoction that used fly agaric (sp?) as one of the ingredients (personally I'm leaning more towards they just got drunk off their ass before a fight and that stories of them having some unknown way of going into this almost mystical berzerker rage, were highly exaggerated). However if fly agaric was one of the ingredients, I would certainly be curious to see what kind of effects it would have on someone in an MMA match or boxing/muay thai.
On a side note, I remember saying to a friend of mine a long time ago "I wonder how dangerous a person would be if they mixed speed and PCP together", but was then corrected when he told me that would be a HORRIBLE mix for anyone to take because you should never mix the drug classes of speed and PCP together. It'd be like pressing the gas and brake at the same time.
I have no idea myself but I thought I'd toss in a couple of anecdotes.
I remember taking Ecstasy once and I'm not sure if it was cut with speed or not. However I was an avid martial artist and I was talking to a girl while high and I asked her if she'd like to do some martial arts. She said she was worried about getting hit (totally don't blame her) but at the time felt I had awesome control over my techniques and even went as far as to show her how quick I could strike by striking and blocking pretend hits in the air. Surprisingly however, I was a lot faster than I was used to and luckily did not hit her as I demonstrated some strikes and blocks.
Now I don't know if that was all just perception and there really was no difference in my speed, but if I was perceiving it right and I was actually a lot faster, perhaps the flood of seratonin running through my system was having a greater effect on my nerves and receptors, or perhaps not.
Another thing that this post got me thinking about was the Vikings and their famed berzerker rage. I've heard that it was just all a mental state they were able to hype themselves up into and also heard that they made a psychotropic concoction that used fly agaric (sp?) as one of the ingredients (personally I'm leaning more towards they just got drunk off their ass before a fight and that stories of them having some unknown way of going into this almost mystical berzerker rage, were highly exaggerated). However if fly agaric was one of the ingredients, I would certainly be curious to see what kind of effects it would have on someone in an MMA match or boxing/muay thai.
On a side note, I remember saying to a friend of mine a long time ago "I wonder how dangerous a person would be if they mixed speed and PCP together", but was then corrected when he told me that would be a HORRIBLE mix for anyone to take because you should never mix the drug classes of speed and PCP together. It'd be like pressing the gas and brake at the same time.