Few questions about DMT

[Warped Reality]

Being one of the few psychedelic drugs I haven't done, I thought I would ask some questions...

I plan on doing it soon, by myself - as something spiritually, not to see what it's like or anything, but because I want to see a new world - I've been dying to see something beautiful for a while.

But there's another problem! My little brother wants to do it too! He's 14 - quite an... odd 14 year old. He's done is fair share of drugs, ecstasy, acid, mushrooms, ketamine, marijuana, alcohol, 50x salvia, etc. Should I even let him do it? If I do, is there anything I should do to prepare him?

So, if you could post some stuff to help myself prepare for this trip of my life, please do! I don't want to risk having a terrifying trip, I want it to be magical, and life changing.

So far, I have this:

- Do it in my room while I'm the only one in the house, for no interruptions.
- Play some soft music, like - trippy music, the shit that blows your mind on acid, you know.
- Be extremely comfortable, and confident that this will be a good trip.

 

[Te0X2t]

When you do Dmt it's very unpredictable you may have and LSD like trip or a Salvia trip... so be extremly comfy in your house listening to Jimi Hendrix =)

 

[happylollipop]

hi man, i would'nt reccomend letting your wee bro try it, DMt is like nothing i've ever experienced it has the possability to be extremley beautiful but its can go the other way and be extremely terrifying to the point where you can end up with PTSD like symptoms. When your trying it my advice would be to try and not think inside your on mind. Keep a clear head like you would have if meditating,
Because every thought you think could possibly start repeating on itself like its connected to a delay pedal with the feedback turned up high, it happens to me and took awhile to not let it bother me so much.
I would have a blanket handy to wrap up in for when its wearing off cause you might suddenly feel really cold and it feels quite comforting to be wrapped up warm,

Weigh your dose, dont just dump it in the pipe or whatever your using, i done this at one time and i was thrown into the most terrifing experience of my life. if you feel scared or anixous or if its going the wrong way a good thing to do is remember what love feels like or some other good emotion and that will replace any fear or terror,

have fun

 

[DwayneHoover]

Jesus, why would anyone even consider frightening the crap out of a 14 year old, possibly scaring them mentally for life, and totally fucking up their intellectual/emotional development, perhaps permanently?

 

[Warped Reality]

Jesus, why would anyone even consider frightening the crap out of a 14 year old, possibly scaring them mentally for life, and totally fucking up their intellectual/emotional development, perhaps permanently?

That's what I'm saying - I'm against him doing it, but he's dying to try it. Haha, I suppose I won't let him do it, he'll just have to suck it up and wait

 

[psyisk]

Let your little brother try it.
If he thinks hes mentally prepared for such things, then let him go for it.
DMT is nothing to fear, as long as you respect it. He might sustain a few days or even months of total ego-loss if he gets a terrible trip. But in my opinion its the bad-trips, that are the best. They teach us lessons about life, and as a 14 year old, I'm sure he is quite mature for his age, seeing as he is exploring the wonderful and mystical effects of psychedelics. tl;dr Let him go for it.
As for music, I rarely put on music when I engage into this world, seeing as I will be focused on other things, but for music choice I would recommend a chilled out ambient/IDM artist. Go for a more Shpongle or Koan approach.
Its personal preference really.
Maybe even a rainymood might be well.

 

[Warped Reality]

Let your little brother try it.
If he thinks hes mentally prepared for such things, then let him go for it.
DMT is nothing to fear, as long as you respect it. He might sustain a few days or even months of total ego-loss if he gets a terrible trip. But in my opinion its the bad-trips, that are the best. They teach us lessons about life, and as a 14 year old, I'm sure he is quite mature for his age, seeing as he is exploring the wonderful and mystical effects of psychedelics. tl;dr Let him go for it.
As for music, I rarely put on music when I engage into this world, seeing as I will be focused on other things, but for music choice I would recommend a chilled out ambient/IDM artist. Go for a more Shpongle or Koan approach.
Its personal preference really.
Maybe even a rainymood might be well.

Ego loss for months is worrying me haha, now that you've said that, I don't even know if I want to try it - I don't want to completely fuck myself over :s

 

[guerillabedlam]

If you are going for the spiritual new worlds trip, in a room with no music on whatsoever (DMT has it's own audio effects) maybe like in the middle of the morning with light coming through your window slits, but lights in the room off.

 

[HempStar]

why would it be bad for a 14 year old to try it and not bad for an 18 year old to try it?

 

[Roger&Me]

why would it be bad for a 14 year old to try it and not bad for an 18 year old to try it?

Jesus god man, isn't that obvious?? Because the 4 years elapsing between 14 and 18 years old are responsible for an amazingly large amount of mental development... (!)

A 14 year old is a fucking child compared to an 18 year old, like an 18 year old is a child compared to a 25 year old, and so on.

OP: Please keep drugs out of your relationship with your brother. You will be happy you did so, IMHO.

 

[jamaica0535]

I plan on doing it soon, by myself - as something spiritually, not to see what it's like or anything, but because I want to see a new world - I've been dying to see something beautiful for a while.

My advice is to go into the experience with the thoughts that you want it to be a positive experience that you can learn from.

But there's another problem! My little brother wants to do it too! He's 14 - quite an... odd 14 year old. He's done is fair share of drugs, ecstasy, acid, mushrooms, ketamine, marijuana, alcohol, 50x salvia, etc. Should I even let him do it? If I do, is there anything I should do to prepare him?

Well, in the greater scheme of things he has already done some significant amounts of psychedelic drugs. But because this is a harm reduction forum, your brother should lay off the drugs and let his brain develop for a few more years.

So, if you could post some stuff to help myself prepare for this trip of my life, please do! I don't want to risk having a terrifying trip, I want it to be magical, and life changing.

Stop trying to think about it in terms of a good or bad trip, some trips are just difficult, you can freak out or try to learn something from it. Make a list of the things you want out of this experience, for an hour or so just sit quietly in your room contemplating these things. Then lay down and start to hit the pipe.

- Do it in my room while I'm the only one in the house, for no interruptions.

I prefer DMT alone, it might seem a little bit weird but do it naked in your bed. Clothing on your skin is just distracting, and there is such a wonderful body high, feels great to touch your skin or feel it rub against the sheets.

- Play some soft music, like - trippy music, the shit that blows your mind on acid, you know.

Shpongle is my recommendation.

- Be extremely comfortable, and confident that this will be a good trip.

The idea that you want to have a good trip has the idea that you don't want to have a bad trip floating around somewhere in your subconscious. Focus on making it an experience that will benefit you, go into it with the desire to learn some things, and just let go.

You would be surprised at how well this experience can deliver what you want out of it. I sought solutions to finding joy in my life and the urge to feel some sort of actual positive emotion.... The result was an inventory of things i do not like about my life and how to fix them, and being washed in this beautiful radiating warmth and light unlike anything imaginable. The equivalent experience of being wrapped in the warm embrace of god sort of thing.

If you go into this experience with questions more than worry of how it will turn out, the results are always better. The elves would rather you be there to learn from them than just being fucked up.

 

[Harambulus]

This thread reminds me of a couple of threads I've read before-

one where a dude wanted to feed LSD to some random st. kid he knew in his area cos he decided he was an 'out there kid who asked lots of questions so deserved to try it'. IIRC he intended to spike the kid's coke with it without him knowing.

Another on BL where dude fed his pets LSD.

 

[ColtDan]

a 14 year old doing DMT would be fucked up. its intense, i think maturity helps coming to terms with it. especially returning from ego death. if i tried DMT at the age of 14 i dunno what that experience would have done to me. probably traumatized my poor little stoner brain. im currently 23 and trying to comprehend the experiences ive had on DMT blows my mind

 

[Addam]

14 (being within the range of puberty) is an important period of brain development, being one of the few periods where humans experience rapid growth/development in the brain. It could be argued that he is potentially making choices that will have long-lasting (perhaps permanent?) ramifications.
I don't claim to be an expert, and everyone will make their own decisions, but keep that in mind.

 

[jamaica0535]

^^agreed....

I have seen some things on DMT that I am not really sure if i was ready to experience something like that, but it showed me what i needed to see, and nothing less than what i went into it wanting.

 

[The Hebrew Hammer]

I would reccomend for you to go into it with the mindset of

"No matter what happens, Im just going to observe it, and know that it WILL be OVER in a very short time"

in other words, just dont try to force it to be an amazing experience, dont expect anything from it other than it to be a new experience.

Just go with the flow.

The only negative-ish dmt experiences I have had were the ones where after the second or 3rd hit I realized that I really didnt want to trip at the time. Thus I would start out fighting the trip a little bit trying to stay in reality with my eyes open etc... for me the more you hold onto the more anxiety you will experience.

As soon as I would just say ok, im tripping, and close my eyes and just experience it, the anxiety was gone.

But i also am one of those people who feels like DMT doesnt alter my mind at all, ie its just a visual and auditory experience for me (unless I smoke like 50 or 60mg of FB without caapi... and have a "breakthrough" experience... but even in a breakthrough, as soon as I become conscious enough (or as soon as my ego becomes conscious enough) to realize whats going on im immediately back to my normal thought processes as usual....

I think DMT is one of the most mentally forgiving psychedelics I have used. Its as if the only way that DMT has changed me has been in getting me more in tune with myself indirectly... via using DMT frequently rather than all sorts of other drugs, I slowly lost all the fogginess that had come with being a daily polydrug abuser.... If I didnt start smoking DMT I would have continued using mushrooms and other drugs instead and thus still been searching the universe for what I already had inside of me.

DMT just doesnt really have any acute mental effects in sub breakthrough doses for me, then again, I have smoked quite a lot in the aproximate year that I have been extracting for.

Oh, BTW, I started tripping on acid and stuff at 14 or 15, and I feel like I would be in much better shape if it were DMT that I had started experimenting with instead.... but thats purely speculation.