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uacvax

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He's all I hear about these days, and I've heard some of his songs but i'm not all that impressed. ... am I listneing to the wrong songs or what?
 
i saw ferry do a dj set here last year. by all mean am i not a trance fan, particularly his brand of trance, but he's a very solid dj.

i guess it all depends on what your personal tastes are.
 
I saw him rinse gatecrasher a couple of years back. Banging out some proper driving euphoric trance, just what you want if you go to gatecrasher really?

Insigma - Open Your Eyes? Strings? Beautiful? Yes please.
 
I saw him twice in NYC, very nice performances; when he comes to new york he always plays hard. Last time, he played such gems as:

Veracocha - Carte Blanche
System F - Out of the Blue

It was a crazy night and one of the best trance shows I've seen recently.

His productions are so so, but his DJing is great.
 
airforlife said:
His productions are so so, but his DJing is great.
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OHhhh. That makes a lot of sense, his productions are so boring and static, I guess he plays a lot of other peoples' songs
 
uacvax said:
OHhhh. That makes a lot of sense, his productions are so boring and static, I guess he plays a lot of other peoples' songs
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All djs play a lot of other peoples' songs. In fact, it's considered egotistical and generally makes a show worse when you only play your productions. That's part of the reason people dislike tiesto sometimes. A good set will consist almost exclusively of other peoples' songs, that is, unless, you are a dj who has amazing productions and can fill up a whole set with your own stuff; however, not many people can do this, probably none can.
 
That's good to know, but shouldn't the cost of raves be cheaper then? I mean, you could have a comparably good time hanging out at your local trance party as opposed to going to some massive where all these worldwide names are spinning.... other people's songs..

i realize that there are a lot more factors involved but just a mini rant for not being able to afford a rave tonight at etd pop =\
 
airforlife said:
...unless, you are a dj who has amazing productions and can fill up a whole set with your own stuff; however, not many people can do this, probably none can.
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none can? i've seen many psytrance acts play dj sets of only their own stuff.

alasdair
 
airforlife said:
A good set will consist almost exclusively of other peoples' songs, that is, unless, you are a dj who has amazing productions and can fill up a whole set with your own stuff; however, not many people can do this, probably none can.
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What? Most producers CAN fill entire sets with their own tracks. My better half can and does from time to time. Do they always do this? No. Generally credit is given where credit is due by playing other people's tracks.

There are PLENTY of producers who are DJs in the world who do this. Usually they are performed as live PAs, but not always.
 
I saw DJ Shadow do a dj set once, of all of his own songs.

Daft Punk and Chemical Brothers, same deal.

Though I guess it could be said that these artists didn't get famous for their dj'ing alone, rather their production work.
 
eras3r said:
What? Most producers CAN fill entire sets with their own tracks. My better half can and does from time to time. Do they always do this? No. Generally credit is given where credit is due by playing other people's tracks.

There are PLENTY of producers who are DJs in the world who do this. Usually they are performed as live PAs, but not always.
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Yea they CAN but no one's that good of a producer, I like to see a varied set when I go see a dj, and even when Tiesto, PvD, and Ferry go up there and blast their own songs all night it's a shitty ass set.

I'm talking about trance only , not anything else (never seen a live psytrance show)
 
airforlife said:
Yea they CAN but no one's that good of a producer, I like to see a varied set when I go see a dj, and even when Tiesto, PvD, and Ferry go up there and blast their own songs all night it's a shitty ass set.

I'm talking about trance only , not anything else (never seen a live psytrance show)
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I don't disagree with listening to or enjoying a set that has other people's tracks, by all means. But, I don't think it's fair to say that no one's that good of a producer to do such a thing. Maybe it's a trance thing, I don't know, but I know many techno producers who are known world-wide do or have done live PAs or even DJ sets consisting of their own tracks.

I don't think it's fair to generalize that those types of sets suck, even if it is just trance that you're speaking of. But when you say words like "no one", it raises curiosity. Maybe you're just picky? ;)
 
Producing and spinning are totally different things. Why would you produce someone else's music Except for remixes, its kind of pointless? Spinning only your own tracks is kind of lame also, you'd be better off doing a live PA. I've seen Ferry a bunch of times, he almost always throws down a good set. Last set I saw in NYC was kind of lame though towards the end.
 
twgburst said:
Producing and spinning are totally different things. Why would you produce someone else's music Except for remixes, its kind of pointless? Spinning only your own tracks is kind of lame also, you'd be better off doing a live PA. I've seen Ferry a bunch of times, he almost always throws down a good set. Last set I saw in NYC was kind of lame though towards the end.
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Different strokes for different folks, ya know?
 
Just to illustrate my point, take the big name trance dj Eddie Halliwell. He has almost no productions to speak of, yet he is very popular within the trance scene, and this means ALL of the songs he plays are not his own. Just goes to show you that producing, like twgburtst said, is a totally different thing than spinning.

Take a look at ferry corsten's last set from when he was in NYC:

1.Ferry Corsten-Into The Dark (Ferry Intro Fix mix)
2.Seth Hutton-Don't Look Behind You ( Mike Shiver's Catching Sun remix)
3. ID
4.Georgia-Ode To '99
5.Majai-Phoria (Jorn van Deynhoven Dub mix)
6.Aly & Fila-Lost Language - Don't remember hearing this last night
7. Activa - Remember - Club Mix
8. Andre Visior & Kay Stone - Something For Your Mind - Guiseppe Ottaviani Remix
9. Andrelli & Blue feat. Hila - Imagine - Mike Nichol Remix
9.Breakfast-The Horizon
11.Freefall - Skydive (elucidate 2008 remix)
12.Lustral-When My Satellite Falls Down (Terry Bones dub mix )
13.Cressida-6am (Kyau & Albert remix)
14.Markus Schulz-Perfect (Agnelli & Nelson remix)
15.Shah & Cosmo pres El Cortez-Desert Rose
16.Mike Saint-Jules-Sunlit Clouds (Original mix)
17.Ferry Corsten-Fire (Ferry's Flashover mix)
18.Jan Johnston -Let The World Fall Apart (Joshua Cunnigham & Jorn van Deynhoven remix)
19.Ferry Corsten-Beautiful (Original mix)
20. Utah Saints - Lost Vagueness - M6 Bootleg Mix
21.Sequentia pres Sunshade - Vertigo (Mike Koglin Remix)
22.Markus Schulz & Andy Moor-Daydream (Lemon & Einar K remix)
23.Oceanlab-Sirens Ofh The Sea (Above & Beyond remix)
24. Stoneface & Terminal -Pictures - Club Mix
25.Embrace-Embrace (Ferry Fix)
26.Tempo Giusto - Agent Orange
27.ID
28.Prodigy-Smack My Bitch Up - The Thrillseekers Remix
29.BBE-Seven Days in One Week (Original mix)
30.Veracocha-Carte Blanche (Original mix)
31.Gouyrella-Gouyrella (Original mix)
32.System F-Out Of The Blue (Ferry's Full On Violin edit)
33.Solarstone-Rain Stars Eternal (Agnelli & Nelson remix)
34.Ferry Corsten-I Love You (Original mix)
35.Alex M.O.R.P.H. & Woody van Eyden-turn it on (Alex M.O.R.P.H. B2B Woody van Eyden remix)
36.Ferry Corsten-Right Of Way (Original mix)
37.Ferry Corsten-LEF
38.Ferry Corsten-Junk (Original mix)
39.Ferry Corsten-It's Time
40.Ferry Corsten-Brain Box
Encore: 41.Ferry Corsten-Rock Your Body Rock (Ferry Corsten edit)

Notice how like only 9 of the songs are his? He's a top 5 dj, and less than 25% of the set is his own productions.
 
airforlife said:
Just to illustrate my point, take the big name trance dj Eddie Halliwell. He has almost no productions to speak of, yet he is very popular within the trance scene, and this means ALL of the songs he plays are not his own. Just goes to show you that producing, like twgburtst said, is a totally different thing than spinning.
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Yes, I get that producing is a totally different thing than spinning. You're preaching to the choir here. However, Ferry Corsten didn't become popular because of his l337 DJing skills. There are very few DJs who got popular relying just on DJing, and most of those people hopped on board over 15 years ago and made their mark in a market that wasn't as competitive as it is today.

airforlife said:
Notice how like only 9 of the songs are his? He's a top 5 dj, and less than 25% of the set is his own productions.
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What exactly is your point here? No one has to DJ a set or perform a live PA of their own tracks. I'm surprised he play 9 of his own tracks, to be honest.
 
eras3r said:
Yes, I get that producing is a totally different thing than spinning. You're preaching to the choir here. However, Ferry Corsten didn't become popular because of his l337 DJing skills. There are very few DJs who got popular relying just on DJing, and most of those people hopped on board over 15 years ago and made their mark in a market that wasn't as competitive as it is today.



What exactly is your point here? No one has to DJ a set or perform a live PA of their own tracks. I'm surprised he play 9 of his own tracks, to be honest.
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My point is, he's one of the best, and that's what he plays. All of the successful djs don't just play their own songs all the time. The guys that do, I've never heard of :D

And Eddie Halliwell DID become popular on the trance scene just because of DJing. Production definitely helps, but it's not essential as he has shown.
 
airforlife said:
And Eddie Halliwell DID become popular on the trance scene just because of DJing. Production definitely helps, but it's not essential as he has shown.
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It's not, I agree, but it is definitely a plus in the industry. It's just weird hearing my friends say "I want to be a superstar DJ!", which is fine to have goals in life, I suppose, but I'd think that they'd get it by now. Then there's always that one example, like Halliwell, that they bring up.
 
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