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Research Fentanyl vaccination? For real, for life?

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Very interesting read...
Looks like a 3 shot deal that creates antibodies that attack fentanyl in your bloodstream preventing fentanyl addicts from getting high or overdosing for the rest of their lives.
(Well 6 months at a time).

Don't know how I'd feel about this, would keep me from ever using Fenty. If I don't get the shots, am I setting up a reservation to use again someday?
 
Woah. My first instinct was honestly to say that sounds like bullshit but apparently it isn't and research into substance specific opioid vaccines has been happening for at least a couple of years.

It probably isn't permanent, most vaccines aren't completely, but it does sound like it would be effective for a long time, and maybe would even confer some lifelong protection even if immunity waned somewhat.

I don't know if you'd be setting up a reservation to use it again or not by not getting this but speaking as someone who has never used fentanyl (to my knowledge) and has no real interest in using it (highly doubt it's anything special, never heard anyone say that it's anything special, obviously also potent enough to be fairly dangerous) - if I lived somewhat where fentanyl cuts to my Drug Of Choice were a real risk, and I had the option to get this vaccine, I would 100% get it, it seems like a huge upside (protection against one of the most frequently lethal cuts in recent history) for almost no downside (it's highly selective to fentanyl, so other opioids would still work).

I'm not saying that if I had easy access to fentanyl of a known purity and ideally formulated into pharmaceutical grade pills or something rather than it's dangerously potent raw form, I wouldn't give it a try out of curiousity, I probably would, but if I never use fentanyl in my life I'm finding it hard to see that I'd care all that much. And I would kind of like the idea of being actually immune to a substance that otherwise could quite easily kill me.

Is fentanyl specifically really that unique and special, in your experience, that you'd find the idea of not doing it ever again concerning? Could you describe what it is about it that you couldn't get out of any other opiate/opioid? Am honestly curious, my general impression was that very few people would use fentanyl if given the choice of a better opiate, like heroin for example, I guess, to pick the most obvious one.
 
I don’t know how I feel about this, especially the line about giving it to EMS workers. That’s a bit mad to me, they hype up fentanyl exposure so much you have police fainting at the slightest touch of a white powder and we all know that’s not how it works. To be giving a vaccine to those people is crazy.

I read it’s still in the testing stages on rats so it’s got a long way to go.

I Found this and thought it was interesting. I’m currently studying pharmacogenomics and they have included this in the paper.

Essentially, these vaccines are designed to carry as many red flags as possible to spur the production of antibodies that will attack the small molecules of opioids. But finding the right mix of all these components is not easy. Vaccine effectiveness hinges on not only each individual’s immune response but also a multitude of other factors including age, sex, amount of drug injected, whether the patient is taking different drugs concurrently with opioids, as well as the individual’s genetic makeup.

It’s absolutely spot on, we are all so individual in the way we process drugs/vaccines/whatever that I would question how effective it will be long term or at all tbh.
 
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