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Fentanyl use while taking methadone

Them Witches said:
Keeping it real is all we got. Sometimes keeping it real goes wrong. Some people are meant to work on poppy farms.

I am looking to make travel friends. I meet this Boost mobile business owner from Northern India near the Golden Triangle. I can stay with his family and he wants me to go there and build a auto business for his brother. Organic food, poppy fields in India and Golden Triangle. Sounds like life. $100 USD a month your good.

I am going to the poppy fields to share Roxicodone 30mgs. Oh they are going to like me or kill me. Sounds like the US about now?

If you break a bone or whatever, they give you 250mg/500mg/1000mg of diamorphine. one fill, taper yourself down. no refills unless serious.
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When are you leaving?
 
I'm curious about something. This topic is not something I have any experience with. While I'm reading the posts, I have a few thoughts and I'm curious what those who have been thru it think.
My first question is about MAT. I personally think it's a great idea if it's used properly. I always thought MAT was developed to be a short term thing. I don't see that happening anywhere though. It seems like once you're put on some kind of maintenance, for lack of a better term, medication, you just stay there. Is there any therapy involved with the meds? Is there ever a plan to stop maintaining and get off opioids all together? I've heard the withdrawal from pretty much all of the options, methadone, Suboxone, etc is actually worse than going cold turkey in the first place. Why would someone choose to go the MAT route instead of going cold turkey? That might sound naive but I really would like to know why someone would choose to go on a maintenance program knowing in the long run the wds might be worse then just getting it over with the first time.
Do you think people go the MAT route because they need some form of dope in their system or is it more of a scared to be without thing? Like i said I have no experience with this at all, so forgive me if my thoughts are way off base.
 
I guess this would be part 2. This part actually has to do with the topic. If someone is on a methadone program and they start using again, what are the signs to look for? Does the methadone fuck you up at all? Do you fall out (nod off) from just the methadone?
Knowing all of the options available, what form of treatment, assistance would you choose now and why?
 
rentedbythehour said:
I guess this would be part 2. This part actually has to do with the topic. If someone is on a methadone program and they start using again, what are the signs to look for? Does the methadone fuck you up at all? Do you fall out (nod off) from just the methadone?
Knowing all of the options available, what form of treatment, assistance would you choose now and why?
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It’s important to remember that everyone is different. Years ago I started taking 5mg oxycodone, which led to sniffing heroin, then smoking it with and without crack, then heroin turned into fentanyl. My story is sometimes unbelievable even to me. I was in a methadone clinic for 3 years and I tapered down to zero. You have to go to the clinic every day and there are a lot of mandatory requirements. i never got fucked up from it nor have i gotten fucked up from suboxone. Ive been on something (except the 35 times in treatment) for 25 years. I’m off of opioids after going cold turkey from fentanyl, long story, but crack still has me by the balls. i can get clean but the cravings are so strong i go straight back
 
Stassi202 said:
It’s important to remember that everyone is different. Years ago I started taking 5mg oxycodone, which led to sniffing heroin, then smoking it with and without crack, then heroin turned into fentanyl. My story is sometimes unbelievable even to me. I was in a methadone clinic for 3 years and I tapered down to zero. You have to go to the clinic every day and there are a lot of mandatory requirements. i never got fucked up from it nor have i gotten fucked up from suboxone. Ive been on something (except the 35 times in treatment) for 25 years. I’m off of opioids after going cold turkey from fentanyl, long story, but crack still has me by the balls. i can get clean but the cravings are so strong i go straight back
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That, I understand. Out of all the drugs I've done, crack was the one that got me. I was very lucky to realize early on it was an issue I'd 'experimented' with quite a few substances before I smoked crack for the first time. I'd never had anything grab a hold of me like that. In 3 months, I'd lost my job, my apartment, friends, family. That's when I knew I had to stop. Once I decided that, I was done. I was still young and able to manage it I have never touched it again. It's been about 25-30 years. Honestly I've never had any other drug get me like that. I already know opioids would, which is why I've stayed away from them. I was prescribed oxy for a long time but I never abused that. I kept to low doses. I was at 15mg 3-4 times daily after 15 years of taking it. I did that intentionally. I had tolerance but I didn't have cravings or withdrawals. Until I did. I could see once again it was going to be an issue if I didn't stop it. I told my Dr I wanted to come off it. It's been almost two years for that. I've never had to go to rehab or do any MAT. That's why I'm interested in your perspective with this.
 
rentedbythehour said:
That, I understand. Out of all the drugs I've done, crack was the one that got me. I was very lucky to realize early on it was an issue I'd 'experimented' with quite a few substances before I smoked crack for the first time. I'd never had anything grab a hold of me like that. In 3 months, I'd lost my job, my apartment, friends, family. That's when I knew I had to stop. Once I decided that, I was done. I was still young and able to manage it I have never touched it again. It's been about 25-30 years. Honestly I've never had any other drug get me like that. I already know opioids would, which is why I've stayed away from them. I was prescribed oxy for a long time but I never abused that. I kept to low doses. I was at 15mg 3-4 times daily after 15 years of taking it. I did that intentionally. I had tolerance but I didn't have cravings or withdrawals. Until I did. I could see once again it was going to be an issue if I didn't stop it. I told my Dr I wanted to come off it. It's been almost two years for that. I've never had to go to rehab or do any MAT. That's why I'm interested in your perspective with this.
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Well, if you wouldn’t mind being more specific about which part you’re interested in my perspective? I am happy to be as open and honest as possible
 
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