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Opioids Fentanyl question

cannonballkid

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Can anyone think of a reason why Fentanyl would be sorta weak? I'm talking about the non gel patches, 50mcg per hour.

I've heard they are supposed to be really powerful, is there any reason why cutting them up and chewing on 1/4 of it would produce a feeling much weaker than even vicodin? and I'm talking about someone who hasn't taken an opiate in over 6 months, only kratom.

Does cutting it up make it slowly lose potency, is the storage of the patch important (would keeping it in between the plastic and stored inside the package it comes in keep it from losing potency? Will it lose potency for any reason?)

The doses were split up over the course of a few hours, slowly taking bits and peices of the 1/4th piece, is this like other opiates, where the initial dose is the strongest and redosing does not work?
 
IME, some generics just don't work well or at all.

Edit: To be clear, the patch likely contains the active ingredient (so be careful), but the adhesive can fail to work. I bring this up to say: don't abuse it assuming that its weak, it can still be extremely powerful.
 
If you want it to work correctly, just stick it on as you're supposed to & there are ways of having it work faster & stronger but I won't go into them because that wouldn't be harm reduction.

Also, people have died trying to get a stronger high off Fentanyl.......its probably the most trickiest drug out there.

I was offered several times but didn't think twice about turning it down. Life is more important than a high........plenty of other drugs to get high on that are less riskier.

Also, not all companies put out good quality narcotics. I know MCG for MCG no matter what the company, its supposed to feel the same but as we all know, that's a bunch of bologna!
 
Many reports I have read say that fentanyl has lower euphoria than most opiates. You may be higher than you realize because it just doesn't have the kick other opiates do.

It is also true with most drugs that the first dose will get you the highest. Also the more times you redose, the more you will need to be satisfied, and the more likely you are to take too much and OD.
 
^especially with Fentanyl. It's duration of action is dose dependent, so low doses last maybe 1-2h, but very high doses can last several doses.

And yeah, it isn't as euphoric as other opies at equivelant doses, though it is great for functioning after already being in withdrawal(though that is dangerous, as well.
 
Fentanyl is an extremely crappy choice for an opiate to get high on. It produces a very low amount of euphoria in context to how strong of a chemical it is. The Line between euphoria and death is very slim. You will waste much of your meds cheeking them to get high and the duration is extremely short.

I am prescribed 175mcg of Fent. I get the Watson 100mcg gel duragesics and the same in 75mcg. I wear my patches and whenever I need them to hit harder I take a hair dryer to them. I've hadthe Mylan Matrix patches and it works even better. Be extremely careful doing this. I don't recommend it... but I scratch off the top dead skin layer of my skin, apply patch and blow dry it super hot as close as I can stand it. Once I've taken my roxi 30 it's about as hard as I can physically nod. I've woken up days later so be really careful.
 
Many reports I have read say that fentanyl has lower euphoria than most opiates. You may be higher than you realize because it just doesn't have the kick other opiates do

Tried a mylan fent patch buccally for the first time yesterday and although I definitely felt it, I can see why it has the reputation for not being as euphoric. I'll try a bigger dose next time. Glad I started low.
 
after coming to this sight ive come to the conclusion that i will never use fentanyl. I dont intend to get to that point but if things get ugly i would rather use heroin than fent, as even that seems safer than abusing fentanyl.
 
after coming to this sight ive come to the conclusion that i will never use fentanyl. I dont intend to get to that point but if things get ugly i would rather use heroin than fent, as even that seems safer than abusing fentanyl.

So your the type that will do oxycodone any chance you get, but look down on those who choose to indulge in opiates that aren't "socially acceptable"? I guess that's putting words in your mouth and I could be taking your post out of context, but that's how it came off to me.
 
You dont want to cut them. Instead of releasing if you have 500mcr/ hour thats 8.4mg of fentanyl in one hit. Instead of being gradually released over a three day period as intended a cut patch can release all 8.4 at once. This will cause you to od, respiratory depression the works. I made that mistake once and was basically dead on arrival. If you want to enhance the effects use a warm wheat bag or go to a public bathroom crank the patch under the hand dryer for like 10-20 minutes the heat helps release the fentanyl. A hair blow dryer will achiever the same. Chewing is fine i believe the best way is subucually. You are a lot safer keeping the patch whole, they kinda big try not to let it stick together in your mouth, place on the inside of your cheek and let it sit there and sounds gross but swish around your saliva dont swallow it for like 10 min and this will allow fentanyl to be absorbed through gums. Fentanyl is the strongest opioid be careful with it
 
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I'm finally getting the hang of the proper way to "cheek" these. Making sure your mouth is dry before placing the piece of patch in your mouth is essential and they stay put for the most part. I try to hold my saliva for as long as possible.

I'm getting mixed reviews on weather or not chewing has any benefit and I feel like it would be difficult keeping the strips from folding on themselves.
 
In my experience different brands work completely differently as far as buccally. I used at least 3 different brands of nongel patches, one worked great--liked it even better than a heroin high, one worked okay/feel something but nowhere near the first brand, and one tan brand didn't work at all buccally. It works if you wear it but not at all buccally.
 
I don't look down upon anyone who does it, the risk just seems too high for me. I wasn't trying to get on a high horse I was just saying I don't see any value in fentanyl.
 
I don't look down upon anyone who does it, the risk just seems too high for me. I wasn't trying to get on a high horse I was just saying I don't see any value in fentanyl.



I know exactly where you're coming from.......after reading on this site how many deaths have occurred because of Fentanyl, I didn't give it another thought.

Fentanyl is a good narcotic pain killer for cancer patients, etc.......but for someone just looking for a high........it seems youre playing with fire.
 
Jesus Christ... All I can say to those who are new to the opiate game is do not fuck with Fentanyl unless you know exactly what you're doing.

Legitimately prescribed Fentanyl for chronic spinal pain is the closest I ever came to death - and I'll be forever thankful for Naloxone.
 
PLEASE HELP ME!! SWIM has a couple 1200mcg fentanyl lollipops and while they are great, they don't last long. SWIM was wondering if anyone could please help find any info as to "pluggin" these. Not the whole thing at once, but say, break a piece off and stick it up there. These won't last long so any timely response would be GREATLY appreciated. Does anyone have advice about maybe breaking a piece off and administering it anally? I've read a lot of good things with people doing this will the jell from the patches but I can't find anything about the pops. Time is of the essence, please any timely advice would be greatly appreciated!!
 
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