FunctionalJnkieGrl
Bluelighter
Let's say I acquired some 75mcg fentanyl patches from 2011, 2012, and 2020. Would the older ones be useless now even if they haven't been opened?
These are the Mylan brand. They're the flat adhesive ones, not the gel ones. Come to think of it, I rarely ever got the gel ones. I prefer the adhesive kind anyway. With a bit of tegaderm they stick way better than the gel ones.I use the 50 mcg/hr patch for pain. The Mylan matrix patch on the United States market is difficult to use other than placing it on the skin. A 75 mcg/hr patch is dangerous territory for anyone without at least a decent tolerance if worn as directed. I’ve read some posts about how to abuse them, it is difficult but not impossible.
Be very careful with any gel containing patch - I’ve lost a few friends who tried to smoke a small bit of the gel and they aren’t around to tell their story.
I use to eat the 100mcg patches because it hits you harder that way. This is incredibly unsafe for those without a veteran tolerance, but the way I would do it was by cutting them into 16 pieces and eating them piece by piece throughout the day. I prefer to wear them anyway. It might not hit you all at once, but it'll last way longer that way. Eating it, given you have a tolerance, will grant you a high that will fade off before the day is over with. But wearing them, however, will give you relief for at least a few days. I'd rather have long-lasting relief than a short high, personally.Thanks for the suggestion on getting them to adhere better, I’ve had an issue with the Mylans peeling off esp. the larger ones. I use tape but it just often gets fucked b/f 48 hours.
I didn’t realize you had experience with fent patches. So you know more than we may have guessed. I can’t get shit from used patches as a pain patient except to blow out my tolerance so I didn’t try but a few times, how did I use them - I’d rather not say having lost dear friends to the gel types.
I suspect you want to use a new patch in a way other than wearing it. Be aware that the total amount of fentanyl is just about 2x the transdermal dosage at 72 hours. I have a post here in a thread “Hydromorphone or Fentanyl for Pain” where I did the calcs. There’s about 5 milligrams in a 50-mcg patch. If you extracted all of it you’d have enough to kill a few intolerant people. And 2.2 mg from a 25-ug/hr patch is a tiny amount to work with, I don’t think chemical extraction of a single patch is worth the effort.
I have a 300mg morphine tolerance, a 200mg oxycodone tolerance, and a 100mcg fentanyl tolerance. I wore one of the 75mcg patches last weekend and it wasn't overwhelmingly strong. I wish I could still get the 100mcg patches, but I haven't seen any that strong in years. I won't mess with the pills though unless it's a last resort. The strength of those vary greatly, but if you gotta take them, start small. Never start with a whole pill. At least with the patches you know what you're getting.The Sandoz from back then were amazing when cut into small strips and put in the gumline
I don't know why exactly, but the buccal effect was extremely different with different brands. For example, Apotec did absolutely nothing buccally
Sandoz stopped production for a time around 2012, never said why but I believe they reformulated to try to prevent the ease of that method of [ab]use.
(I used the sticker patches buccally from around 2010-2012, because back then no one knew what fentanyl was and they surely did not test for it)
With the Mylan, you can try cutting a strip and seeing if an effect. I remember they were sort of ok, nowhere near the Sandoz tho.
Being they are sticker patches, my harm reduction advice is to cut into pieces and wear only a piece at first (I don't know your tolerance so I won't say dosage advice)
Keep in mind they take a few hours to hit max saturation, the drug sort of pools in the underlayers of skin. The fent will also continue to enter bloodstream for some time due to this even after removing the patch, so don't wait to remove til you're too intoxicated
I made the mistake the first time I wore one I put half of a 75 mcg on. (I had an opiate tolerance at the time but low, maybe 60-90 mg of oxycodone or 2 bags a day. )
I was at work and started getting dizzy and overheated and nauseous and at first it didn't hit me why. I had it in about 6 -8 hours at that point.
Had to remove it.
And the reason I recommend cutting the sticker and wearing pieces is that once you remove the patch its basically useless. It doesn't work if you try to stick it back on
Just be careful. They take a while to take effect but also last a while.
I have trouble putting the patches on lower back and front where panties help keep them on. I get red and irritated. Tried switching to bra area and same thing. Then I put small piece in mouth. I just want pain relief.I use to eat the 100mcg patches because it hits you harder that way. This is incredibly unsafe for those without a veteran tolerance, but the way I would do it was by cutting them into 16 pieces and eating them piece by piece throughout the day. I prefer to wear them anyway. It might not hit you all at once, but it'll last way longer that way. Eating it, given you have a tolerance, will grant you a high that will fade off before the day is over with. But wearing them, however, will give you relief for at least a few days. I'd rather have long-lasting relief than a short high, personally.