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February - Getting and staying clean/sober thread

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Let me guess...you got a place in Oakland?

Sure, it's known for violence and drugs. So are most of the big cities in America, right? Some of the wealthiest people on the planet live in the Oakland hills. I lived in Oakland for 5 years and still spend a lot of time there. It is incredibly diverse, and has a lot of beautiful areas and tons to do--great parks, great restaurants, an amazing music scene, and a huge art scene. It's a historic city too.

I hope you get to experience all of the great things that the city has to offer. You'll soon discover how many Berkeley students live in Oakland. This weekend, go walk around the lake, go to a meeting at Rockridge, eat dinner at Mua, and then go see a show at the Fox Theatre. Before you buy in to the stereotypes you've heard, go explore a little bit. Pretty soon you'll just describe it as "an awesome city that I love."

(ps:huge congrats on all your sober time.)

Worse, actually - I'm getting a place in Richmond. :p


But I know every city known for drugs and violence also has it's nicer areas. I won't be living somewhere quite as safe as Berkeley anymore, but shit I'll have a roof over my head - a pretty damn nice roof actually. And at least the surrounding few blocks will be pretty nice, and as far as known there aren't any major drug corners around where I'll be and hopefully I won't be exploring for said corners anyway haha. I know Oakland isn't as bad as it's made out to be by any means, so I'm hoping Richmond will turn out to be similar. So far everyone I've told said it's going to be sort of sketch but whatever - I can't beat the price even with an apartment and it really is a pretty damn nice townhouse.

Plus I'm from the east coast and I used to cop dope in neighborhoods that make the Tenderloin look like disneyland, so I think I can handle myself wherever I land out here.
 
thank you case<3

Im kicking off a little early tonight.. so yet another 24 you all!!!!=D

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That's how Proteus Mark II should look. Wow.
 
I'm going for Gold again. This is the eve of day 2 without a thing -- not a smoke, not a hit off the crackie, not a bong, not a pill.

This kind of torture shouldn't be allowed. I was doing okay til about an hour ago. Then it all hit at once. I can't sit still I can't think. I'm so fucking cold but then I put on a jumper and I'm too hot.

What gets me is how lonely this is. I don't want to bore my few sober friends with my needy bullshit, and I simply can't have any contact with my user friends. I can't do this. I don't even know what the point is. How is sobriety going to make my life that much better?

Edit: I don' want to shit on all you junkies, you know. I feel bad just posting in this thread. Meth W/D must be nothing compared to H W/D. Sorry for ranting. I jut feel half fucking insane.
 
Spack there is no need to apologize that's what this thread is here for, support! Please be leave me when I say things DO get better with time. There are so many other people here that can vouch for this. Trust me, I absolutely know how hopeless things can seem while in the throws of withdrawal. When you're in the thick of it, it's hard to think at all let alone think strait and seeing the light at the end of the tunnel may be difficult but please have faith there is a light, and it's within reach of you hold out. You ARE strong enough to do this. You CAN make it through. One day, one hour, one minute at a time if you have to - stick with it and I promise things will change for you.

What is holding you back from reaching out to your sober friends? I can't imagine them not being willing to give you support. Stay strong man, things will get better. Just remember to breath. ;)
 
Say I stick it out for another day, another week, another month... I live in a town owned by ice. Crystal is KING here. Fucking 16 year old girls are hitting the pipe, it's fucked up. I can hold off for so long and then BAM... someone's gonna offer me a hit, or worse, shout me a free razzle.

I don't have the funds to just up and move and, let's face it, I'm sick in the head. I can't live with myself sober. But I've made a promise to an old and dear friend... said the last time they saw me they saw a hollow imitation of who I used to be -- I was flying and piss drunk at the time, I thought I was oh so charming. What can I do? I can't even drink or smoke a bong... I know what happens when I get high on anything. The cycle begins anew.

I just feel... terrible reaching out to my sober friends. How pathetic I must sound, how they must roll their eyes thinking "He's exaggerating! Cunt's a druggie and a liar!" And I've lashed out at so many of them when all I really wanted was to be held.

I don't know what to do. My life is a nightmare on drugs, but at least a nightmare is a dream -- this reality shit crashes down on you hard.

Edit: Also, thank you for replying. Thank you for hearing me out.
 
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Who you become on the drugs isn't who you are. You're friend said they saw a hollow imitation of who you used to be, but that person - who you used to be, rather, who you truly are - that person is still in there. I can tell by your posts that you are a bright person. You are still there mentally, at least when you aren't high. I know how it feels to live in a world of drugs and druggies, and how desperate it is trying to fathom a life without using. I used heroin, various other drugs and sold weed/psychedelics for 5 years. My entire world revolved around using and selling drugs and I still live in the same area as the last few years of my run. Trust me, there is a world out there with normal people. Not EVERYONE uses meth, or other drugs for that matter. It may seem like an impossible thing to get away from because you have surrounded yourself with it, and people that use it, for so long. But it's an illusion. And think about pure alcoholics.. Think about the millions of alcoholics worldwide (just those who have gotten sober in AA, not counting the others) who have managed to get sober in a world where alcohol really is everywhere. Imagine meth being sold at every store and advertised on TV. I realize the reality of the drug game isn't that far off, if not just a bit more behind the scenes - but my point is that people get sober everyday surrounded by their drugs of choice. I know it's a tough demon to fight, but it's a battle worth fighting.

Are your sober friends in recovery, or are they just non-addicts? I'm confused about that. If they are non addicts I can understand your hesitation but if they are in recovery I would call them ASAP, even if not it can't hurt to reach out for help. Have you considered AA or NA, or one of the other support groups such as LiferRing or SmartRecovery? You can't do this alone, and I know you are already feeling alone and it's not helping. You may not agree with the steps or the program, but trust me it's worth a shot and it's not remotely what it seems like from the outside. Even if you don't work any aspect of any of those programs besides going to meetings, I can not express how invaluable it is to connect with other addicts who have been through what you are going through. It's an untapped resource that very well may save your life and/or your sanity. You seem pretty desperate right now, are you desperate enough to do whatever it takes? Do you really want to end the suffering, but just don't know how? These are legitimate questions to ask yourself.

I know getting clean for a few weeks is one thing, and staying clean in the long run is another like you said - that's what the support groups are for. Even if you don't continue going to meetings, just meeting people and building your own support group of people you can call and talk to is an unmatched tool, nothing will help you more. I don't want to get preachy, but feel free to PM me if you have any questions about 12 step groups or any other support groups. I know there is a lot of misconceptions, myths, and rumors around them - and I also know that a lot of people prefer not to utilize them even after finding out the rumors aren't true - so like I said I won't preach but feel free to PM me if you're interested.
 
@Caseface

My God, I never actually thought of it that way at all -- alcoholics are indeed surrounded by their DOC, the television hammering them with messages to drink, and society just reinforcing the idea. Hell, you're right. If they can beat that, I can beat this, right?

My clean friends are just non-users, not recovered addicts. Heh, I don't know any recovered addicts -- just addicts. But I'm reaching out to one now, and he's been incredibly kind and sympathetic. We haven't spoken in years and it feels great to just talk to an old friend again.

I have considered NA, but I live in a tiny town. We don't have any support groups or meetings. And, yes, I too have heard the rumours... finding God in teddy bears and all that shit.

I truly hope you're right about the person that I used to be still being there, somewhere. If he comes back I have big plans for him -- back when I used to do a bit of stand-up comedy, and you know, I was good at it. I want that back. Something to fight for.

Thank you for your response. I'm not sure I would have made it through the night sober otherwise. Thank you. :)
 
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