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well I hope his lyrics are cathartic for him. He sounds like an emotional wreck.

well it is eminem and he has been pretty public about his mothers drug use and emotional abuse growing up and is one of the reason so many people relate to him and one of the reason he has sold more records then any other artist since 2000.... he is a very intersting person tho, he can either write a completely serious song or make one that cracks jokes on everyone and about everything.... you are familiar with him right?
 
Michael Gira said:
I was a runaway. I went to Europe with my father and ran away, and I spent a lot of time just hitchhiking around, and somehow ended up in Israel. I believe that I was 14, going on 15. I was with a couple of older hippie guys who were ushering me through this life-on-the-road process.


They had a contact in Israel, so we ended up getting into Israel, and I spent a year there, a few months on a kibbutz, then just living off the streets, selling my blood, panhandling, selling drugs. I got arrested for selling drugs, so I spent a total of three and a half months in jail there. I ended up in an adult prison by some obscure miscarriage of justice, but fortunately I was pretty much protected by the American-vagabond contingent that was in there. We stayed in an old army barracks and we were mixed in with Arabs, of which there were an abundance in jail. So the Arabs would be at one end of the barracks and the European-vagabond-hippie-derelicts were at the other.


Every night, I would hear and see this young Arab boy being raped repeatedly by 20 or so different guys, in the mouth, particularly. It would be dark, and there was a huddled mass working him over, and he would be crying and protesting. Then he would shuffle across the concrete floor in his slippers, go to the communal sink, throw up, brush his teeth and shuffle back. The other prisoners would snicker a bit, and this process would repeat itself the next night. So that song is sung through my idealized, romanticized version of this young saint. It's kind of a love song in the sense that it's about sex and passion through his eyes. So in that sense it's a typical love song. I guess this experience, seeing this kind of thing at such a young age, shaped my perception of human nature, and love, in a way? Christ, I didn't even have pubic hair yet.

And the guy doesn't call his mother a bitch either, despite the fact she was an abusive, neglectful alcoholic who shipped him to his father as a teen.

He did write a song about watching her die (for real), but it's a little more subtle than Eminem.

Still, one of them sold millions of records.
 
And the guy doesn't call his mother a bitch either, despite the fact she was an abusive, neglectful alcoholic who shipped him to his father as a teen.

He did write a song about watching her die (for real), but it's a little more subtle than Eminem.

Still, one of them sold millions of records.

are you seriously tryin to compare the two??
the story says the guy ran away for one and was arrested for selling drugs and it never said he got raped... and watching someone gettin raped is pretty fucked up and why in the states children are not placed into adult facilities... even if they were child rapists are the lower the lowest pieces of shit and why they almost always have their own pods cause other inmates literally try and murder them for fun... i really dont see that happening to a young teen in an american prison esp not gang rappings every night... that shit is on the isreali prison systems... also it is more "accepted" in arab culture to rape young boys, so as fucked up as this story is its nothing out of the norm for their society and happens every day and prob why the boy didnt put up a fight... vice did an article about it awhile back about how pretty much ever person america has put in charge over there has young boys for sex slaves... they are just a fucked up people, plain and simple... cause me personally i would have made melted my tooth brush into a poker and stabbed one of those faggots in the neck while they were sleeping and seen who the tried that shit the next night... also i was shaving at 12 so idk how he didnt have ne pubes at 14 but thats a totally different subject...

also one of them sold over a hundred million records... and if it doesnt sound like his mother put him in the position he found himself in... he did tht to himself

so if you have any more straw man arguments, please feel free to share them....
 
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are you seriously tryin to compare the two??

Good God, no.

I'm just saying that horrific life experience doesn't necessarily have to influence art in quite the same way as it seems to do with Eminem, whom I appreciate has talent, but is (to my mind) one hell of a sub-oedipal crybaby. I'm not even offended by the misogyny, as I accept that as part of the idiom.

As for the selling millions of records part, I'm not really suggesting that's a positive. Though it may be a source for fruitful debate, albeit perhaps not in this thread.

Anyway, topic:

A man's ambition must indeed be small
To write his name upon a shithouse wall
But before I go I'll add my regal scrawl
To show the world I'm left with sweet fuck all
 
I'm just saying that horrific life experience doesn't necessarily have to influence art in quite the same way as it seems to do with Eminem, whom I appreciate has talent, but is (to my mind) one hell of a sub-oedipal crybaby. I'm not even offended by the misogyny, as I accept that as part of the idiom.

Anyway, topic:

A man's ambition must indeed be small
To write his name upon a shithouse wall
But before I go I'll add my regal scrawl
To show the world I'm left with sweet fuck all

but telling ones story, good or bad, esp through song is as old as human nature... as is the desire for a person to want to leave their mark, albeit on a cave wall or a brick shit house... theres an entire field of study dedicated to it, believe its called bathroom graffiti, pretty interesting stuff... basically it says men are more likely to write vulgar things while women tend to write more "romantic" stuff, seems pretty obvious but there were alot of pictures ranging from ancient times through modern day and they were all more or less the same throughout time... basically only the things they used to write with had changed
 
but telling ones story, good or bad, esp through song is as old as human nature... as is the desire for a person to want to leave their mark, albeit on a cave wall or a brick shit house... theres an entire field of study dedicated to it, believe its called bathroom graffiti, pretty interesting stuff... basically it says men are more likely to write vulgar things while women tend to write more "romantic" stuff, seems pretty obvious but there were alot of pictures ranging from ancient times through modern day and they were all more or less the same throughout time... basically only the things they used to write with had changed

So what exactly does that have to do with the fact that Eminem's a big crybaby, whilst Michael Gira used to dislodge his teeth and break his ribs on stage, only to return to his construction job the very next morning? :)

Not very much. We're talking Johnny Cash vs. Billy Ray Cyrus though, aren't we?

If you want 'vulgar' and 'disgusting', then Gira will give it to you in spades. He just won't go about it by sounding like a frustrated teen and calling his mommy a bitch.
 
So what exactly does that have to do with the fact that Eminem's a big crybaby, whilst Michael Gira used to dislodge his teeth and break his ribs on stage, only to return to his construction job the very next morning? :)

Not very much. We're talking Johnny Cash vs. Billy Ray Cyrus though, aren't we?

If you want 'vulgar' and 'disgusting', then Gira will give it to you in spades. He just won't go about it by sounding like a frustrated teen and calling his mommy a bitch.

well im american and have never even heard of mr gira... i honestly thought it was someone who had previously posted something on this board... and how does breaking ones ribs and what the fuck ever "dislodging" teeth means have to do with being more artistic then em? he has always rapped about his life experiences when he was younger it was his mother, later it was his daughter and wife then it was his addiction to pills and now its more about love and relationships... like him or not he is one of the most popular artists on the planet... and i dont get how mr gira standing around and acting like a bitch with a bunch of other guys while he watches some kid get raped, apprently, every night for three and half months makes him a man or more noble at all... and mr mathers didnt have a father to get sent away to, he was stuck with his mother who abused drugs and neglected him, he was beat so bad when he was middle school that he was in acoma for a week, he didnt even graduate HS, he had a rough life and you what, expect him to write songs of praise for his mom? and he has enough skill with his singing that he does not need to break ribs or pull teeth or anything else soley to add shock value to get ppl to come and see him...

soo no its not johhny cash v billy ray, even tho billy ray was a pretty big hit for a number of years
its more like eminem v someone who never made it big
so stop riding his dick cause you only like the underground scene, if thats your thing more power to ya
but ive been a huge fan of em ever since i first heard him on the chronic 2001
and mabe just mabe i relate to what he sings about in his songs in relation to his own mother... not everyone had a picture perfect childhood
 
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An American who's never heard of Mr Gira? That figures. :)

Mr Gira is an American himself by the way.

I'm sorry this got sidetracked into a debate on 'authenticity', because that isn't what I intended. I'm just trying to say that the 'catharsis' you identified in Eminem's lyrics about his mother is artless by comparison with that of other lyricists, and (some might say) a little unsophisticated and puerile.

Did I suggests Eminem should be singing his mother's praises? No, I didn't. The reason I chose Gira is that a good 45% of his canon draws on the rage, disappointment and rejection he felt from both parents. Yet he's not written a 'fuck you, mommy' song to date.

What's 'making it big' anyway? If we're talking influence on other musicians and the respect thereof, you may be surprised how 'big' Gira has actually made it. Unfortunately, it's music for adults, so it would never get any airtime in the good ol' US of A, hence no record sales. Yet he carried on despite that adversity. Eminem was groomed for the charts from the word go.

Now if you'll excuse me, I'm off to ride my dear Michael's saintly cock. Good day to you.
 
can't help a lol to that last line..lol. That 'you'll have to excuse me/ Goodday to you' was the epitome of the campness I've mentioned before... ( i'ts noticed affectionately :) :D)

Pill_Billy my own child introduced me to some of Eminems lyrics. The one that comes to mind is 'she seasoned his steak with sprinkled valium to chill him out as a kid.

She must be mortified.
 
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[...] She would always show us her dreams
They were crumpled up like leaves from holding on too tight
Scattered in her shoebox coffin on the cardboard walls covered in butterflies
She's got love in her heart for her babies, and hope in her mind for tomorrow
And blood on her hands that only she sees, holding the last bit of time that's borrowed
But you never know where that heart has been, and we'll never know how hard it's been
I wanna cut open my chest and let her in, but that won’t fix what needs to mend
and she stands there unlit cigarette in hand
filling up that empty hole with anything that’ll pour
insides hanging out like a flare, warning.
there’s beauty in that pain, can you see it?
she’s crashing through life with seat belt hands
one accident away from a miracle
and there’s an honesty there, but I can’t take it all in
she hides the worst of it in the wrinkles
that’s the ache you get when there’s no where else to go.
and she’s got no where else to go...
 
I'm truly sorry
For what I never did
But I forgive you too
For your indifference.

You were a lonely child,
Laid open to the world
And when I looked in your eyes
I saw myself there too

So please forgive me now
For what we never had
Although it's useless to say
I wish you happiness.
 
I`m new here so HELLO everybody :)

Yazoo Nobody's Diary:

Perhaps if I held you I could win again,
I could take your hands we'd talk and maybe then -
That look in your eyes I always recognise,
Would tell me everything is gonna be fine,
You're gonna be mine
for a long time...

x
 
Do you see the way that tree bends? Does it inspire?
Leaning out to catch the sun's rays...a lesson to be applied...
Are you gettin' something out of this all encompassing trip?
You can spend your time alone redigesting past regrets oh...
Or you can come to terms and realize
You're the only one who can forgive yourself oh yeah...
Makes much more sense to live in the present tense...
Have you ideas on how this life ends?
Checked your hands and studied the lines?
Have you the belief that the road ahead ascends off into the light?
Seems that needlessly it's gettin' harder
To find an approach and a way to live...
Are we gettin' something out of this all-encompassing trip?
You can spend your time alone redigesting past regrets, oh...
Or you can come to terms and realize...
You're the only one who cannot forgive yourself, oh...
A-makes much more sense to live in the present tense

Read more: Pearl Jam - Present Tense Lyrics | MetroLyrics






Christ on a bike!!!....

I forgot about that album
reminds me of sunny days and yoof
i`ll be playing that all day now :)
 
The most beautiful love song ever

Talking Heads
"This must be the place"

"This Must Be The Place (Naive Melody)"

Home is where I want to be
Pick me up and turn me round
I feel numb - burn with a weak heart
(So I) guess I must be having fun
The less we say about it the better
Make it up as we go along
Feet on the ground
Head in the sky
It's ok I know nothing's wrong . . nothing

Hi yo I got plenty of time
Hi yo you got light in your eyes
And you're standing here beside me
I love the passing of time
Never for money
Always for love
Cover up say goodnight . . . say goodnight

Home - is where I want to be
But I guess I'm already there
I come home she lifted up her wings
Guess that this must be the place
I can't tell one from another
Did I find you, or you find me?
There was a time Before we were born
If someone asks, this where I'll be . . . where I'll be

Hi yo We drift in and out
Hi yo sing into my mouth
Out of all tose kinds of people
You got a face with a view
I'm just an animal looking for a home
Share the same space for a minute or two
And you love me till my heart stops
Love me till I'm dead
Eyes that light up, eyes look through you
Cover up the blank spots
Hit me on the head Ah ooh

From one of the best filmed concerts, Stop making sense: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VKNYJx9Ekpw
 
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Everybody knows that the dice are loaded
Everybody rolls with their fingers crossed
Everybody knows that the war is over
Everybody knows the good guys lost
Everybody knows the fight was fixed
The poor stay poor, the rich get rich
That's how it goes
Everybody knows

Everybody knows that the boat is leaking
Everybody knows that the captain lied
Everybody got this broken feeling
Like their father or their dog just died

Everybody talking to their pockets
Everybody wants a box of chocolates
And a long stem rose
Everybody knows

Everybody knows that you love me baby
Everybody knows that you really do
Everybody knows that you've been faithful
Ah give or take a night or two
Everybody knows you've been discreet
But there were so many people you just had to meet
Without your clothes
And everybody knows

Everybody knows, everybody knows
That's how it goes
Everybody knows

Everybody knows, everybody knows
That's how it goes
Everybody knows

And everybody knows that it's now or never
Everybody knows that it's me or you
And everybody knows that you live forever
Ah when you've done a line or two
Everybody knows the deal is rotten
Old Black Joe's still pickin' cotton
For your ribbons and bows
And everybody knows

And everybody knows that the Plague is coming
Everybody knows that it's moving fast
Everybody knows that the naked man and woman
Are just a shining artifact of the past
Everybody knows the scene is dead
But there's gonna be a meter on your bed
That will disclose
What everybody knows

And everybody knows that you're in trouble
Everybody knows what you've been through
From the bloody cross on top of Calvary
To the beach of Malibu
Everybody knows it's coming apart
Take one last look at this Sacred Heart
Before it blows
And everybody knows

Everybody knows, everybody knows
That's how it goes
Everybody knows

Oh everybody knows, everybody knows
That's how it goes
Everybody knows

Everybody knows
 
Well oh well, I'm back in the County Hell
I just flew in and my arms they feel like hell
I'm so glad to be back in the County Hell
I missed the smack, I missed the crack,
I missed the killings too
I missed the London Irish girls
But especially missed you
 
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