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Misc Favorite non-benzos?

FlouroAcytelated said:
Oh I forgot to add, certain anxiolytic antipsychotics I find to be fairly pleasurable, but only if I need to be sedated for some reason. Good for withdrawals and anxiety.

Stuff like haloperidol, thorazine, etc. These drugs have given me great comfort, generally while in the hospital withdrawling from other drugs like benzos. Those first gen APs are way more calming and even slightly enjoyable compared to the 2nd gen APs.

I hate how doctors look at me strange when I ask for those drugs to mitigate my general anxiety and sleep issues. Won't prescribe benzos, but wont prescribe me anxiolytic neuroleptics, either. What is their job good for again?
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I found out that my favourite ultimate sleep/anxiety/wd aid is also first generation antipsychotic. And low dose works better than any ammount of benzos. It makes my mind quiet. It doesnt have usuall antipsychotic muscle side effects because of potent anticholinergic activity and it even provides body relaxation and pain relief. Especially during withdrawals and it also greatly potentiates opioids. They even wrote into that information paper which is included at every single box of any meds that it makes opioids ( their analgetic effects ) 50-60 % more potent but avoid using with atypical hybrid monoaminergic opioids. But if used with morphine, codeine, dihydrocodeine, hydrocodone, oxycodone, diamorphine, hydromorphone, oxymorphone than it makes their analgesia more than 50 % more potent.
While using just very low dose of that antipsychotic. But i ran out of it so now I don't have any but it's not problem to obtain prescription from my psychiatrist but he already prescribe me promethazine 25mg pills, mirtazapine 15mg pills and diazepam 10mg pills.
 
notsmokeymcpot42088 said:
Oh shite I forgot about GHB -- I dont trust the dose curve enough to trust it personally. But yea you need sleep -- Chloral Hydrate (?) Not euphoric but you going down. Propofanol?

GHB does basically just turn into alcohol though (sensation wise) I like you got it on there twice for tolerance/cross tolerance. Good shit
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I've found that its only euphoric when you have zero tolerance towards it or alcohol. Once tolerance develops it simply turns into a hardcore pure hypnotic without much pleasure involved.

The one weird thing with GHB is it tends to induce an intense but very brief "psychosis" while you're waking up, about 2-3hr into it. I don't know if anyone else has experienced this but I have. I'm not referring to sleep paralysis or hypnagogic events, I mean you're wide awake and tripping balls.

When I say brief I mean it only lasts about 1 or two minutes. I have had full blown ++++ CEV visuals from nothing but waking up during a G nap. I also found it to occur slightly more with 1,4 BDO, but that might just be anecdotal error.

Interestingly, I've had similar phenomenon (visuals) from phenibut abuse, which makes me believe it has something to do with over induction of GABAb.

It's a strange drug. It is prescribed for sleep paralysis, but is known to make the condition worse for the first few days before it starts working as a medication.

I always get sleep paralysis after fucking with G. I hate it lol.

And yeah I have a fear of it. For me, 4-5ml and I'm buzzing but not crazy high... but 6ml and I go unconscious and wake up face down on the floor. It's kinda scary like that. The overdose comes on so quick and you don't see it coming. It's like narcolepsy, you just unexpectedly and suddenly go to sleep. There is no warning, no physical sense that you are drifting off to sleep.
 
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WellTram said:
I found out that my favourite ultimate sleep/anxiety/wd aid is also first generation antipsychotic. And low dose works better than any ammount of benzos. It makes my mind quiet. It doesnt have usuall antipsychotic muscle side effects because of potent anticholinergic activity and it even provides body relaxation and pain relief. Especially during withdrawals and it also greatly potentiates opioids. They even wrote into that information paper which is included at every single box of any meds that it makes opioids ( their analgetic effects ) 50-60 % more potent but avoid using with atypical hybrid monoaminergic opioids. But if used with morphine, codeine, dihydrocodeine, hydrocodone, oxycodone, diamorphine, hydromorphone, oxymorphone than it makes their analgesia more than 50 % more potent.
While using just very low dose of that antipsychotic. But i ran out of it so now I don't have any but it's not problem to obtain prescription from my psychiatrist but he already prescribe me promethazine 25mg pills, mirtazapine 15mg pills and diazepam 10mg pills.
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Would you mind telling us which antipsychotic this is? 😊 I've had the same kind of experiences with chlorprothixene - it's a good first-gen AP medicine!
 
Marijuana and funny ppl mentioning ket, it being a dissociative..I have found if I can't sleep and feeling strange, I can take small tokes of salvia sometimes on top of some bud..one small hit you feel the dissociation and your eyes get heavy.
 
notsmokeymcpot42088 said:
Oh shite I forgot about GHB -- I dont trust the dose curve enough to trust it personally.
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yeah 100%, you need to ramp the dose down when you redose and look at today consumption as your guide not each dose, minimum 1 hour between doses
FlouroAcytelated said:
I've found that its only euphoric when you have zero tolerance towards it or alcohol. Once tolerance develops it simply turns into a hardcore pure hypnotic without much pleasure involved.
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hmm I've always found the euphoria mild with GBH/GBL, but it's off the scale when combined with mepehdrone, speed isn't too bad either but not as good.
 
placebonaut said:
hmm, I wouldn't want to risk negatively effecting the roll, when do you take the GHB/GBL? I could maybe see it on the come down
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Throughout the whole roll. It doesn't kill the roll by any means. Just like having a few drinks of booze doesn't. Both make me feel dandy while rolling.

But when I roll I typically redose after 4-6hr with 50% of my original dose. So I typically "roll" all day. I generally drink while rolling, or dose G. Makes me feel alright. Especially on the comedown.

 
Idk if you've ever had those "body zaps " from GHB, but when you get them in combination with MDMA if feels like an orgasm all over. Feels so amazing...

G + MDMA is one of my top 3 combos of all time. The other two being heroin + cocaine and heroin + LSD. MDMA + LSD close runner up.
 
Hey folks! I was reading this thread and my thoughts are that it is ultimately better suited to Drug Culture as opposed to in the Harm Reduction forums. We try to keep this area more ¨safety-centric¨ if you follow me. If a person has a question or concern that requires their usage of a certain substance, that is our bread and butter. Anything that is more ¨what do you like/what´s your favorite¨ is not really on subject and it is also not a question/response thing as much as an open, informal discussion.

If anyone thinks this is a mistake, I missed something or you just feel very strongly about keeping this here, please feel free to message me. I will hear you out, I promise.

BDD -> DC
 
Keif' Richards said:
Hey folks! I was reading this thread and my thoughts are that it is ultimately better suited to Drug Culture as opposed to in the Harm Reduction forums. We try to keep this area more ¨safety-centric¨ if you follow me. If a person has a question or concern that requires their usage of a certain substance, that is our bread and butter. Anything that is more ¨what do you like/what´s your favorite¨ is not really on subject and it is also not a question/response thing as much as an open, informal discussion.

If anyone thinks this is a mistake, I missed something or you just feel very strongly about keeping this here, please feel free to message me. I will hear you out, I promise.

BDD -> DC
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can you move it over there?
 
Bro, how dare you ask me to follow through on my own actions. You really gotta check yourself friend.

I am so obviously joking, but, just in case, I got you buddy. I am not mister organized in any area of my life Bluelight included. I sometimes need a nudge to get things done, so thanks for being more on the ball than myself @magnolia12 ;)
 
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