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Fasting Megathread

Part of the process is drinking a pint of lukewarm water with salt each morning to flush out your intestines. Effective and disgusting. Like the scene in Alien - I was horrified to discover what had been lurking inside my body.
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The salt water flush is pretty amazing. I love doing those. Like a colonic, except you don't pay some specialist a hundred bucks to stick a hose up your ass. Equally cleansing, though, in my opinion.

All the talk about ridding the body of toxins doesn't stand up to scientific scrutinity
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What scientific scrutiny has been done? Do you have links to studies or something? I am interested to know. I don't really like the generic term "toxins" either, I think a person should know what they are trying to do, more specifically, such as detoxing bromides or heavy metals, etc. But I did want to add that fasting isn't always done to remove toxins, one of the main reasons I do fasts is to rest and heal my digestive track, as I suffer from intestinal damage due to celiac disease. Resting my digestive track has helped me a lot with my leaky gut.
 
Are you talking about when you eat lighter foods such as salads for a few weeks so your body can flush out "extra" crap? I doubt your talking about abstaining from food... No one is dumb enough to think that that could have health benefits. Would you mind maybe linking us to what you are talking about to help us understand what exactly you mean? :)
 
Probably not abstaining completely. I would eat raw foods (muesli, some kinds of fruit, etc) but at a bare minimum.

It's not so much to flush out the toxins. It is more a thing of discipline, and a personal challenge for myself. And this is not a weight loss thing either, I am a standard weight for someone of my height.

I could get into the nitty-gritty as to why, but I am flat chat and it isn't really much point.

I have had a friend who has done it once before. Again, he did it for the same reasons as I mentioned. Found it to be very rewarding, coming out of it after roughly 4 days with an incredible energy. He also took from the experience that he figured people tend to eat more than is needed. As a result, he cut back on the portions of his meals.
Again, he is probably the same weight and height as me.

MV
 
Eating raw foods, or a more clean diet for a period of time, is good and all but that is not fasting..

Fasting, is about letting your digestive system rest. It's important that you don't eat solid foods because otherwise, youre just eating lighter. It's not bad to do either and please don't listen to people who say fasting is dangerous. When done properly it's far from dangerous, it's great for you and can make you feel wonderful on a variety of levels, (mentally, physically, spiritually). But to get that benefit you need to do a true fast. If you are eating just a little bit you will probably feel really hungry and it won't be a very good experience (I am speaking from personal experience here, I've done this a lot). Eating some solid food keeps your digestive system going and wanting more, but if you truly fast, your digestive system rests and after a certain point you no longer feel hungry.

The best fasts I've ever done have been on organic, fresh squeezed juices. The last one I did was apple and pineapple juice (note, fresh squeezed and organic is important, you will need a juicer. You DON'T fast on icky, pasteurized storebought juices). You can also fast just on water but it's a step more intense than the juice fast. I'd recommend the juice fast for a beginner.

Once again, please don't listen to any ignorance about this being unhealthy. People act like you will DIE if you don't have food for a few days and that is total bullshit. A lot of people have fasted for very long amounts of time with only positive results, but even less extreme than that and completely safe is a 3-4 day fast. You will notice positive results from doing a fast such as this. Naysayers are just repeating back what's been taught to them without really looking into it for themselves. In society, especially modern, western society we are taught that we need to constantly be eating but fasting is something that has been done throughout history with much positivity.

Hope that helps, good luck!

p.s. look into salt water flushing, it's a way to clean out your intestines while fasting and make sure any toxins or waste moves out.
 
Just the sort of answer I was after! Thanks heaps MynameisnotDeja!

Just a couple of things. When you normally do your fasts, how long do you normally do it for? Or does it vary?

And do you eat raw and organic foods for the days prior to starting your fast?
 
That was an excellent post, MynameisnotDeja. +Kudos. I stand corrected.
I'm now actually very interested in this. Could I take Adderall while fasting?
I found a website that may be helpful: fasting.ws
 
I guess the whole point of fasting is to abstain from food, so Adderall I would say would sort of be like cheating as it would suppress your appetite.

Also, I think it would take away from the spiritual side of it a little. Although this is all speculation, as I haven't done it.

Interested to hear other peoples views..
 
MilliVanilli said:
Just the sort of answer I was after! Thanks heaps MynameisnotDeja!

Just a couple of things. When you normally do your fasts, how long do you normally do it for? Or does it vary?

And do you eat raw and organic foods for the days prior to starting your fast?
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I only eat organic foods anyway, all the time. :)

And no, you don't want to do adderall, or any drug or alcohol when you are fasting. Kinda defeats the purpose. :D
 
I'll repeat, please don't listen to the ignorance.

With all due respect the title of this thread was "fasting help", not, "tell me if fasting is good or bad" or "let's have a debate about fasting". Please don't post if you only have ignorance or negativity to spread.

Oh and to answer your other question Milli, I fast for 3-4 days at a time.
 
MynameisnotDeja said:
I'll repeat, please don't listen to the ignorance.

With all due respect the title of this thread was "fasting help", not, "tell me if fasting is good or bad" or "let's have a debate about fasting". Please don't post if you only have ignorance or negativity to spread.

Oh and to answer your other question Milli, I fast for 3-4 days at a time.
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With all due respect, the purpose of this forum is harm reduction not harm encouragement. I have an opinion supported by medical science and research, and that is what I'm sharing. The article I posted is well-supported by science and well-documented, so referring to it as ignorant is pretty, well... ignorant, just like disregarding my opinion immediately as "negative" as "ignorant" simply because it differs from your own.
 
^that was a pretty ridiculous article imo, the 3 case examples to support the theory that fastin is bad were a 30 day fast, a 27 day fast imposed on a 3.5 year old (what?) and someone who wanted to become a holy man 'that lived on air alone,' cmon 8)
 
dokomo said:
With all due respect, the purpose of this forum is harm reduction not harm encouragement. I have an opinion supported by medical science and research, and that is what I'm sharing. The article I posted is well-supported by science and well-documented, so referring to it as ignorant is pretty, well... ignorant, just like disregarding my opinion immediately as "negative" as "ignorant" simply because it differs from your own.
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The information you are trying to spread here simply isn't true. I don't mean personal offense to you in saying it is ignorance, but it is. As days on a train said, the examples in that article aren't even close to what we are talking about here.
 
MynameisnotDeja said:
The information you are trying to spread here simply isn't true. I don't mean personal offense to you in saying it is ignorance, but it is. As days on a train said, the examples in that article aren't even close to what we are talking about here.
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Then please show some evidence that fasting is beneficial. All of the medical and scientific evidence I can find says otherwise, and the definition of ignorance is being uninformed, so please inform me.
 
Yeah all those cases are for way longer that was I was proposing. I was merely looking at 3 - 4 days. I highly doubt any of those side-effects would happen in that timeframe, as the human body can survive for ~3 weeks without any food.

Another question for MninD. When you are fasting, do you still go about your daily activities, i.e. work? I work retail so I don't know whether I should take the initial days off or not...
 
MilliVanilli said:
Yeah all those cases are for way longer that was I was proposing. I was merely looking at 3 - 4 days. I highly doubt any of those side-effects would happen in that timeframe, as the human body can survive for ~3 weeks without any food.

Another question for MninD. When you are fasting, do you still go about your daily activities, i.e. work? I work retail so I don't know whether I should take the initial days off or not...
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I didn't mean to say that 3-4 days will kill you, my point is that it is harmful for the body.

Most all of the legitimate medical research says that a 24 hour fast for a healthy individual is not harmful. However, 2-3 days or more begins to become harmful to the body, for the same reasons the above people died. Those same harmful processes begin taking place. Saying that it is in any way healthy or beneficial is medically and scientifically incorrect, it is actually quite the opposite.
 
dokomo said:
Then please show some evidence that fasting is beneficial. All of the medical and scientific evidence I can find says otherwise, and the definition of ignorance is being uninformed, so please inform me.
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I only have my own experience to share, and the knowledge of the personal experience of thousands of others. I don't claim to have scientific evidence and I don't need it for myself. I know what is good for me based on my own results.

You don't have to listen to me if you don't want to, but if you spread what I feel to be lies then I have every right to counter that with my opinion. Sorry if you don't like it. And you do have the right to post your opinion as well, sorry for asking you not to. <3

However, 2-3 days or more begins to become harmful to the body, for the same reasons the above people died. Those same harmful processes begin taking place. Saying that it is in any way healthy or beneficial is medically and scientifically incorrect, it is actually quite the opposite.
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Yep. Guess I'm a freak of nature then because it's great for me. :)

Milli, to answer you, yes I usually take some days off to kick back, meditate, sleep a lot, and generally take it easy while fasting. Usually I'll begin the fast the first day (and work that day) then continue and finish up the fast over a three day weekend. :)
 
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