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Fasting may reduce benzo tolerance?

Medatripper Tates

Medatripper Tates

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Since fasting is known to cleanse the body, I am wondering if doing this would cleanse the body's fat cells of such drugs, resulting in a reduced tolerance. Thoughts?

I've only experimented once and the benzos hit harder, but it could have been placebo. More experimentation needs be done.
 
It seems like it would work, but your brain is what is responsible for tolerance. Tolerance develops to counteract the effects of a given drug and to keep your body in a state of homeostasis. Even if the drug is not in your system, you will still have tolerance. I have been off benzos for six months and when I took them again my tolerance was only reduced from 10mg to 8mg for Xanax.
 
No, fasting will not reduce tolerance. I mean, you might absorb it better without any food in your gut, but tolerance has NOTHING to do with the drug being "in your fat cells". That's just IGNANT. <-- read that in yo' best ghetto voice.

You *will* feel more effects WHILE fasting, just 'cause your brain is so wacked out at the time, but after the fast is done and you've been eating for a while, you'll be pretty much where you would have been if you'd just stopped taking benzos but continued to eat.

And... what exactly is fasting cleansing your body of? The unnamed and nebulous "toxins" uneducated hippie morons keep telling me about? Seems to me that forcing your body to break down muscle tissue for food actually *creates* toxins. And *real* ones, not the imaginary ones "stored in your fat cells".

I don't mean to be harsh, but I'm kinda sick of hearing this crap. I've fasted for like ten days before. It was cool. I liked it a lot. It was a definite change in head space, and I tripped BALLS when I ate mushrooms in that state of mind. But it's just fasting, and that's that.
 
Benzodiazepines don't accumulate in your fat cells to any great extent. Once you stop using the medication, or begin reducing dosage, the substance begins to exit the cells into the bloodstream, gradually. You don't need to fast. The only thing that will remove tolerance is a period of not using the medication.

Using benzos long-term is generally a bad idea anyway...
 
Medatripper Tates said:
read this and get back to me on that

;)

http://www.soilandhealth.org/02/0201hyglibcat/020127shelton.III/020127.toc.htm
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That was written by a scientist in 1934. The science of the subjects he discusses was rather undeveloped back then and it shows if you read through the text. I wouldn't recommend you use that as your primary source for understanding the science and medical implications of fasting.

An example;

"I can testify from my own 'experiments' as well as those of Doctor Beaumont, that any person having a 'bad cold' may find entire relief by abstaining from food, one, two, three, or perhaps five or six meals if the case is a bad one, and that too without taking a particle of medicine."
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That seems like complete rubbish to me. I could be mistaken on this as i've not actually tested it out for myself, but my understanding of how a cold works, viruses in general and the human body leads me to conclude that starving someone when they have a cold isn't going to help.

If i am mistaken you could test this easily enough yourself next time you have a bad cold. Since people have been searching for the cure for the common cold for quite some time now you could make a lot of money if there turned out to be anything to it.
 
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I frankly don't know whether fasting occasionally might have beneficial effects. I do think it would have harmful effects, regardless of the benefits. And I have little doubt that the beneficial effects can be achieved via healthier means.

Your body and your brain need nutrients. Be nice to your body and your brain.
 
Bottom line; fasting will not reduce a benzo tolerance.

Fasting does not flush out "toxins" anymore than do those "kinoki" foot pads...
 
Beenhead said:
denying the energy your cells need to perform vital tasks seems like the exact opposite of healthy
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I agree. Hopefully at this point no one is going to mention the primal energy of the universe that can be harnessed through meditation and fasting and denial of other earthly comforts. Energy in this case is very much measured in joules (or calories if you prefer).

I have thought of two other ways fasting might reduce benzo tolerance.

1. Tolerance is often relative to body weight. If you fast you will lose fat and general bulk and thus weigh less. The pill now weights more relative to your own reduced weight.

2. Fasting garantees you have an empty stomach. Benzos taken in pill form are likely to absorb more quickly and more totally if you have an empty stomach and GI tract.
 
MrM said:
I agree. Hopefully at this point no one is going to mention the primal energy of the universe that can be harnessed through meditation and fasting and denial of other earthly comforts. Energy in this case is very much measured in joules (or calories if you prefer).

I have thought of two other ways fasting might reduce benzo tolerance.

1. Tolerance is often relative to body weight. If you fast you will lose fat and general bulk and thus weigh less. The pill now weights more relative to your own reduced weight.

2. Fasting garantees you have an empty stomach. Benzos taken in pill form are likely to absorb more quickly and more totally if you have an empty stomach and GI tract.
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But the effects would still be temporary at best, not permanent as was mentioned before. As soon as you return to your normal state, the loss of tolerance would quickly be resolved.
 
LabRatNW said:
But the effects would still be temporary at best, not permanent as was mentioned before. As soon as you return to your normal state, the loss of tolerance would quickly be resolved.
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Those effects would be temporary at best, agreed.

I can't spot where the OP states he thinks the reduction to be permanent though if he did you are right to point out that it's not.

Although a reduction in weight after fasting could be permanent if you modify your diet afterwards accordingly, you can lose weight without fasting so that's not entirely relevant...
 
kakti said:
Hehe this talk of fasting, depriving the body of nutrients, and fighting colds reminds me of "bloodletting" in the medieval ages.
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Decreasing your total amount of blood prior to dosing would be one way of trying to increase the % active ingredient present in your blood. Not sure if increasing the concentration in this way would actually get you higher though the bloodloss would make you feel woosey anyway so it's all good.
 
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