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Fast Answer Please - Important Question Regarding 2C-T-7

lamanogaucha

lamanogaucha

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I'm highly experienced with 2C-T-7 but today I'm going through a particularly difficult experience with this compound. I never take benzos to calm down a trip but I think that this is going to have to be the exception. I have plenty of alprazolam on hand: .4mg pills. Given that 2C-T-7 is known for being rather dangerous regarding drug combinations, I must ask if taking one or two of these pills would be wise. Would it be OK? Any risks? Please answer pronto because I'm really not in a good spot right now -- the rare, for me, bad trip!
 
There shouldn't be any reasons why benzodiazapines would interact negatively with 2c-t-7 to my knowledge, do you what you need to do!
 
Thanks, guys! Maybe I should just type! To benzo or not to benzo? That is the question. This has been an exceptionally strange and intense experience. I took 30mg (my usual dose) and I drew a virtual blank until hour six, when there was a sudden and ferocious burst of activity. Visuals were suddenly overwhelming and my heart rate went waaay up! Shakes, chills, anxiety, you name it. Amazing but shitty! I've been in this state for some three hours now... Writing is helping, but fuck, where's my wife when I need her, damn it! Should I really take that pill? Is there solid reason to believe that alprazolam won't mix poorly with T7?
 
If you think you can ride it through without the benzo that'd be best, but don't hesitate to reach for the alprazolam if not there's no danger here at all.

Chin up! <3
 
I'm going to do my best to ride it out, but even if I do conquer this, it would be good to continue this thread. I'm curious about the pharmacology of such an interaction (i.e. alprazolam vis-à-vis 2C-T-7). Fucking brutal trip! Crazy chronology too! T7, man... great trips, even a ++++ once, and now my second bona fide bad trip with it. This is highly variable stuff! It's still way up there in my book though. Certainly in my top five.
 
Hurrah! There's no pharmacological interaction to really speak of here. T-7 may react badly with some drugs as it inhibits MAO but alpraz isn't a substrate for MAO so that's not a problem.
Conquer well my friend
Here's a tune
 
lamanogaucha said:
Thanks, guys! Maybe I should just type! To benzo or not to benzo? That is the question. This has been an exceptionally strange and intense experience. I took 30mg (my usual dose) and I drew a virtual blank until hour six, when there was a sudden and ferocious burst of activity. Visuals were suddenly overwhelming and my heart rate went waaay up! Shakes, chills, anxiety, you name it. Amazing but shitty! I've been in this state for some three hours now... Writing is helping, but fuck, where's my wife when I need her, damn it! Should I really take that pill? Is there solid reason to believe that alprazolam won't mix poorly with T7?
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I never read about benzo's and T7 deaths. The only deaths I know of are insufflating very high doses and combo insufflated T7 with MDMA.

If you must, you could always try a half a pill or quarter of a pill and wait. Try calm music , meditating , a walk, bath/shower , get fresh air and drink some water (not alcohol). I can't give you the concrete answer but I can't find any reports of alprazolam having bad effects with T7:

http://www.mdshrink.com/drgrossiblog-menu/44-maoisdrug-interactions.html

Says it is safe with MAOI




http://www.holistic-online.com/remedies/Depression/dep_interactions_MAOI.htm

Says enhanced sedative effects:

Minor tranquilizers (benzodiazepines) such as alprazolam (Xanax), diazepam (Valium), and others Enhanced sedative effects. May be hazardous when driving or operating dangerous machinery.



Hope this helps, be careful.
 
Thanks for the links, guys. The Bonobo has a fusion feel to it. It's nice.

My wife got back a little while ago and gave me a massage. That helped a good deal. The visuals are still mad active, though, almost obnoxiously so. My body is still a bit stressed and I'm anxious, but not as much as two or three hours ago. I will probably forgo the benzo, but we'll see...

The chronology of this test has been entirely atypical. For the first few hours, I thought that I had accidentally underdosed. I thought that maybe I misread the display on my analytical balance. 30mg is invariably a pretty strong dose for me, yet I was distinctly underwhelmed, as though I had ingested 20mg or even less. Then suddenly... about six hours into it... BOOM! WTF!

Today, when I ingested the parachute, I drank much less water than usual -- perhaps five ounces, as opposed to my normal fifteen or more. I conjecture that my stomach dissolved only a small amount of what I took and then passed the mostly intact parachute into my intestines, where a thermonuclear reaction ensued. Is this possible? I mean, I really should not be getting floored six hours after basically drawing a blank! Perhaps some two-thirds of the material went straight into my bloodstream, as though I had plugged it or even injected it. Any thoughts? I'm still as high as a kite!
 
T7 can be very unpredictable. It is my favorite synthetic psychedelic, I know it like the back of my hand...and it is difficult to predict a correct dosage. Usually it takes 3-4 hr to fully manifest but it can take longer with food. If you have avoided the benzo...avoid it. The psychic pain you experience has a connection to something in your life...benzoing out will leave the issue unresolved.

PM me if you wanna talk, I'll be up a bit.
 
Thanks for chiming in, MGS. No benzo, although I'm still considering it.

I too regard T7 very highly. I've bio-assayed it almost twenty times. I know that your preferred dose is 50mg, but mine is 30mg. I've gone higher with no issues other than some discomfort during the comedown. This material is indeed very variable, hence me getting a very fully expressed trip with "just" 30mg. Some people get a strong +++ out of just 20mg, as you know. Anyhow, I normally start peaking on T7 at ~T+2 and development continues steadily until the plateau is reached an hour or two later. It's always worked this way for me, so I'm at a loss to explain what the heck happened today. My "last meal" was a good five and a half hours before I took the drug. I really think that that parachute ended up in my intestines almost whole! It was *far* too forceful... It's still going strong, albeit less worrisome.
 
Well I admit that is a bit strange...but considering what you read about 2C-T-7...it can happen I guess since it did to you! I'm glad you are in a better place.

Re: 50mg...man words come back to haunt you. :) I haven't taken 2C-T-7 since 2003 and well back then I uh...well I'm sure I would be just fine with 20-30mg these days as I am in such a different place and life. I'm mainly saying something because I don't want anyone to think 50mg is 'normal' dosage...that was pretty damn obscenely high back amount (although I fucking sure loved it every time I did it...5 times at least at the 50mg level)....but yeah that was some heavy stuff and nobody should jump into it like I did at that level. It was 2000 when I first got T7 and there really wasn't much on the net and being young and dumb and all...it happens. Thankfully never a bad experience.

Thank you for reminding me that I need to squeeze a T7 trip into this summer, it's been too long.
 
Yes, T7 is magnificent and deserves its place in the Magical Half-Dozen like no other, imo. What it does to one's appreciation for music and art, empathy, the emotions, sex, the eye and the mind's eye, creativity, etc. is really something great. The only thing that I don't like about it is that I usually get a crappy-feeling comedown -- deep exhaustion and chest discomfort. Sometimes I get pretty twitchy during various phases of the experience as well. No nausea or vomiting though.

Going back to my current but hopefully soon to be over problem, I feel like shit. I swear, this felt like I took twice as much and the chronology was all crazy. Very strange indeed... I'm coming down, but yeah, I'm not feeling well.
 
lamanogaucha said:
Yes, T7 is magnificent and deserves its place in the Magical Half-Dozen like no other, imo. What it does to one's appreciation for music and art, empathy, the emotions, sex, the eye and the mind's eye, creativity, etc. is really something great. The only thing that I don't like about it is that I usually get a crappy-feeling comedown -- deep exhaustion and chest discomfort. Sometimes I get pretty twitchy during various phases of the experience as well. No nausea or vomiting though.

Going back to my current but hopefully soon to be over problem, I feel like shit. I swear, this felt like I took twice as much and the chronology was all crazy. Very strange indeed... I'm coming down, but yeah, I'm not feeling well.
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the benzo should be even more drowsy than normal , so you should have a nice sleep. Let us know how the benzo went and glad you made it. I will have to try a highish dose of T7 as a MGS dose range8o Not sure about 50mg, but approx. 30mg wasn't quite it for me. Everyone is different, and by the sounds of it , T7 can vary from time to time. Maybe I didn't drink enough with the dose etc. I had slight chest discomfort as well, not quite pain, nothing sharp, but it was there and might be a reason to not get to heroic with T7 :?
 
Precisely. Although the discomfort is not pain per se, it is very much present during the comedown (for me). That alone prevents me from going higher than 35mg, which was my largest dose. 30mg is perfect for me -- very strong, but not overly so. I've had phenomenal experiences at this level, even one exceptional and completely unexpected ++++... and two bad trips. Set and setting have always been essentially the same -- same frame of mind, same concerns, same room, and same times, even. My diet is quite healthy and I take supplements daily. My health is fine (although I smoke, which sucks). And so on... In sum, this compound is a rather wild beast and must be treated with great respect. IMO, this is the most powerful compound of the 2C series, not in terms of potency -- that title goes to 2C-P -- but in terms of sheer, visceral *power*.

Anyway, if you don't quite get "there" with 30mg, try 35mg. The dose-response curve on this puppy is pretty exponential, so tread carefully. For me, 25mg is a mere ++ or moderate +++, at best. However, 30mg is invariably a very powerful +++ (and in one case "Samadhi" territory).
 
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lamanogaucha said:
I'm highly experienced with 2C-T-7 but today I'm going through a particularly difficult experience with this compound. I never take benzos to calm down a trip but I think that this is going to have to be the exception. I have plenty of alprazolam on hand: .4mg pills. Given that 2C-T-7 is known for being rather dangerous regarding drug combinations, I must ask if taking one or two of these pills would be wise. Would it be OK? Any risks? Please answer pronto because I'm really not in a good spot right now -- the rare, for me, bad trip!
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Someone I know was dosed a little to high due to an inaccurate scale.
He took benzos as well. This wasn't a good idea he became stuck in a loop asking the same 5 questions over and over every single minute for the next 4 hours. He asked where am I? How did I get here? Take me home. The cops are here. I'm getting arrested. There were no cops at all
 
I use a frequently calibrated microgram balance for all my measurements. What I took was without a shadow of a doubt 30mg.

I think that it is possible that the parachute did not fully dissolve until it found its way into the small intestine, or maybe even the large one. That might explain why nearly nothing happened until the sixth hour, at which time the primary effects manifested themselves very precipitously and with tremendous force. Who knows though...

In the end, I didn't take the benzodiazepine. I sucked it up and dealt with the experience. I wasn't freaking out; I was "simply" very anxious and uncomfortable due to the wholly unexpected, intense and long-lasting psychedelic bombardment. Speaking of length, 30mg of 2C-T-7 always lasts 10-12 hours for me. This experience lasted 18.

Anyway, thanks to everyone that contributed to this thread. That helped a good deal. Much appreciated, guys.
 
>Anyway, if you don't quite get
>"there" with 30mg, try 35mg.

Seconded. My notes remind me that every 5mg causes a tremendous jump in power; I would get a strong ++ 1/2 at 30mg, and 35mg was the dose it took for me land in gentle but full-on +++ land.
 
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