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Farage - "Legalise all drugs"

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Ismene

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Thought I was going to be voting for the kippers until the last line...

‘I personally think that the war on drugs was lost many, many years ago and that the lives of millions of people in Britain are being made miserable by the huge criminal element that surrounds the illicit drugs trade and I do think that Portugal does show us that perhaps there is a better, more enlightened way to deal with this’, he said.

‘I’m not pro-drugs by the way, as someone with teenage children, and I’ve seen fairly close to hand the damage that drugs can do to young people.

‘So I hate drugs, I’ve never taken them myself, I hope I never do unless it's a candyflip, but I just have a feeling that the criminalisation of all these drugs is actually not really helping British society,' he told a Telegraph phone-in.

‘I think we should look at it and if ever there was a subject where we needed a genuine Royal Commission – not to kick it in the long grass – but a genuine Royal Commission to examine Portugal, to examine perhaps what has happened in one or two states in America and in Switzerland, this subject would be it.’

Mr Farage admitted these were his personal views, and not Ukip policy, saying: ‘This is one subject where I differ strongly from my party’.

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Well. Fuck.

I never thought the voice of reason would come from Mr Farage of all people.

I would love to see him on a candyflip :D

I hope his opinion doesn't hinder progress in the reformation of drugs policy in the UK because of his other, racist views.
 
Does anyone remember David Cameron saying this http://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...calls-for-more-liberal-drug-laws-6143525.html (posted by David Nutt in his recent Reddit AMA)?

David Cameron, the Tory leadership contender, believes the UN should consider legalising drugs and wants hard-core addicts to be provided with legal "shooting galleries" and state-prescribed heroin.

He also supported calls for ecstasy to be downgraded from the class-A status it shares with cocaine and heroin and said it would be "disappointing" if radical options on the law on cannabis were not looked at. [...]
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nice to see him speaking out while in power, normally they're almost irrelevant when they do speak out like this

E: Christ I was high when I wrote this. Managed to confuse myself into believing Cameron had said legalise all drugs and farage spoke out ages ago
 
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The only reason I voted Lib dem and not labour in the last election was due to Clegg's stance on drug policy. He basically referenced Alan Johnson's decision to sack Nutt and said that under his watch the ACMD would have been allowed to "do it's job"ie. have a direct influence / more or less dictate the course of drug legislation in this country. Can't believe I voted for that fucking tory arse hole. Not that i live in his constituency so obviously I didn't vote directly for him, but you know what i mean.
 
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Nice move. When I'm in a bad mood I generally end up posting a load of irate crap on bluelight and then spend the following week apologising to everyone.

curious_24 said:
Wow, Nigel Farage has never smoked a cigarette or drank a beer. I'm shocked.
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Nice!

Ismene said:
Thought I was going to be voting for the kippers until the last line...
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Ismene, I never thought I'd say this but I'm beginning to erm like you. In fairness, i always did, even when every exchange we ever had usually resulted in me punching a wall or throwing something across a room. I can honestly say I never remember us ever doing anything bu argue with each other, however, underneath it all I suspect that practically everything you said that pissed me off, was, well, designed purely to piss me off. I don't know if I'm making sense here, but what i'm trying to say is that deep down I always suspected you were kind of saying whatever you were saying tongue in cheek and I was just falling for it every time. For some reason i can't help but have respect for your ability to do this. :)
 
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Possible.
I think he's one of the more "down to earth" MP's - Or atleast that's his political plan to seem so.

And I understand his "small island too many people" stance:
He's not being racist as if 1000000 UK citizens came back from wherever then it would crowd job opps etc.

Still, he is a lizard in human disguise ;)
 
Swarm said:
Ismene, I never thought I'd say this but I'm beginning to erm like you.
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Whatever it was that we disagreed about it is all long-forgotten now. To be honest I've havn't disagreed with anyone in about 18 months so you must go back quite a way swarm.
 
SproutOnSmack said:
As much as I'd love legalisation, I expect this is merely to drum up publicity and votes simultaneously.
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That's what they all do, ask themselves 'what do people want to hear', then promise that, and more likely than not if they do get elected fail to deliver on the vast majority of their promises. Considering that he wants out of the EU it's a bit weird that Farrage stood to be elected as a Euro MP, and succeeded in getting elected.

Hypocracy is nothing new for MPs though, and apart from that I agree with some of his policies. I'm not sure if all the times he gets filmed drinking a pint and having a ciggie puts him in a bad light or not. It certainly makes him look human, and doesnt appear to be putting on an act for the cameras. I'm getting the feeling that they are possibly going to do very well in the next UK general election, and will get their best result yet. The Liberals have lost whatever credibilty they once may have had and are probably gonna be trounced by UKIP. Unless there is some major gaffe from Farrage himself between now and then, this allways remains a possibilty. He is disposing of some of the lunatic fringe in his party and succeeding in making themselves more electable.
 
Ismene said:
Whatever it was that we disagreed about it is all long-forgotten now. To be honest I've havn't disagreed with anyone in about 18 months so you must go back quite a way swarm.
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I suspect your right ismene. 18 months sounds about right. I was just on a ramble in any case. To be honest I hadn't seen you about much, that said I fell off the radar for a fair few months myself. I guess it's its always hard to tell if folks about or not depending on what thread's take your fancy, let alone forum's. Who know's you may have been stuck in word's or something for the last 6 months and i would have been none the wiser. To be honest I think i've stepped outside of EADD precisely 2 times. Maybe 3.
 
Bob Funkhouse said:
legalise/decriminalize/regulate/educate/blah/blah
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Decrimilisation is surely the worst of all possible worlds. Just means that the drug trade is left in the hands of criminals but they don't get in trouble for selling drugs - just for fighting over who gets to sell those drugs. Has to be full legalisation to really cut the nasty stuff out of the drugs bizniz. No half measures (spoken like a true druggy, I know 8)).
 
It's an interesting point shambles, about the fighting for drug territory. I have to admit I never really have gone through the distinctions between legalisation and decriminalisation in my own mind properly at any point really. I still think it's a bonus when user's don't end up in jail / with criminal records for possession though.
 
It's a bonus for the user obviously. Not much use to wider society though and would make for an excellent excuse to say "Well we tried loosening the laws and there's still lots of problems so the answer has to be to make laws stronger than ever".
 
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