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Fallen out with issue-ridden friend at work think he has been bullying me since?

CalmG

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Hey guys! This is about a really intense friendship dunno if this is the right fourm for it? This is going to be quite a long post but it might be interesting too if you find people with issues interesting, so maybe might be worth a read? Dunno. You might get to the end and wish you hadn't though. Would appreciate some neutral opinion on it though.

So for just over the last year I been working as a charity fundraiser on the phone. Absoultly loved it, the job got my confidence to a level it hasn't been at since I was 16 (23 now). Ended up making loads of great friends and was real popular at work, a stark contrast to the last 2 years where I have been a bit of a recluse and have been very depressed (spent most my time playing world of warcraft haha).

After about 8 months I befriend some guy at work. The first thing he says to me is ''Yeah where I'm from I've been attacked by gangs alot.... i deal with them kinda how you deal with these fundraising calls... get them on your side then they won't hurt you''. I think ''Wow that's an interesting thing to say if a bit strange'' but we end up becoming friends.

It goes really well to start with but then he starts behaving in a bizzare way that starts to really affect me. Can give examples. He would put his arm around you and if you don''t do it back straight away he'd almost shout at you ''Yeah just ignore it then!'', he tells you really minor secrets and is like ''you're the only person that knows so if you tell anyone else I'll trace it straight back to you and if you break my trust i won't forgive you''. Then later he'll say ''I thought I told you not to tell anyone that secret, Julie knows!'' and I'd be like ''What????' and he'd go ''haha i know you didn't tell her really'' almost as if to watch you squirm. He sees the tinyest thing you say as a massive attack on his character example - he descibes a mutual friend as ''flippant'', I say ''perhaps he was just having a bad day'' he replies really angrily 'I'm just sharing my feelings with my friends not bitching'' and then looks at me really angrily like I done something wrong.

He also goes from being completely normal to being really really mad angry in the space of about 8 seconds over nothing. When he is drunk he goes from being manically happy to looking llke he is about to cry in minute intervals. He criticises tiny things about you such as your attitude in such a way you think you've done something wrong. If someone crosses him (a girl at work rejected him) he completely switches his opinion from idolising them to hating them and starts chatting shit about them to everyone. He finds little reasons to not like someone such as ''they put on a front'' and then blows it up to be the biggest deal ever.


The entire time he has been undermining me he at the same time is saying stuff like ''We'lll be friends forever!'' ''I have so much time for you!'' ''Come travelling with me in Canada!''.

He also rants in your face in an absoultly manic way.

This behavior started to affect me so much I would literally dread having to see him at work and got to a point were I felt anxious around him constantly as he made me feel I could never say the right thing to him. I started to try to distance myself from him and he would say shit like ''Don't you wanna be my friend anymore?? Don't you wanna hang out with me??'' so I felt i had to spend time with him.

He is obsessed with whether people are actually his friends or not to the point where he has written songs with lyrics like ''You're not really my friendsssss!''.

Anyway, I go to a party with him and he says ''Calum I think you're distancing yourself from me!!'' I am on mandy and reply ''Yeah it's because my brain is trying to make me like you and I don't like it!'' (I am gay and this guy is absoultly gorgoeus he's been scouted to be a model like twice and I did fancy him a bit. I never liked him though but I did used to think about him alot mainly about how much I dreaded seeing him).

He's actually cool about it though, it's no problem.

A week later we're at a party and he tells me something I think he's only told one other person before -- he got sexually abused by a family friend as a child. It suddenly all fits into place his behavior. I think he has massive issues with trusting people.

At a 2nd party the following week he is there (by chance didn't arrange to meet him) and the minute I hug him I feel uncomfortable. I end up saying to him ''I think you're a really really good person but you are so intense!!'' he is like ''What????'' I keep telling him he's intense.

Few days later we talk about it and I say (thoughtlessly) ''I think you are really paranoid and I think you inflict it onto other people without meaning to, I think you smoke too much weed''. He goes apeshit and storms off angrily.

We kinda make up at a party a week later whilst on drugs and he says ''I won't forget you said that though...''.

I meet him somewhere else week later, we have another argument he says ''I can't be your friend there's something there''. Next morning I say we need to talk about it, he says ok but then later changes his mind and says there is nothing to talk about. I think ''But how can we be friends after he said that??'

At this point I am going mental, the reason being I have had this insecurity my whole life that I might be crazy. When I originally told the guy he was intense he replied ''Yeah well loads of people think that about you''. He knows I have this insecurity. I have been obsesseing about it big time to the point I have become a bit of a mess and am anxious around everyone. I therefore text the guy saying ''Sorry it's just I tried to let stuff you do go over my head but ended up snapping at you cos it got too much sorry!'.

After this he like starts acting like he absoultly hates me. He stares at me and looks either really angry or really hurt. He excludes me from conversations with our mutual friends. I spill his drugs at a party he happens to be at and he goes apreshit and calls me a fucking doofus and storms out, comes back in 5 minutes later and apologises for being so aggresive but says I have to give him money for it. I agree. Two days later I give him £5 as a friendly gesture he takes it and goes ''That'll teach you a lesson...'' in a really mean way. Anytime I try to talk to him he is just really mean to me. At this point I am so angry at him I send him a message on facebook saying ''if you're not sorry for how you have made me feel (refering to feeling anxious around everyone at this point) then I actually hate you''. Later I realise I can't work with someone who thinks I hate him so text ''Sorry there must of been feelings there I have mistook for strong friendship you are an amazing person I'm really sorry.''

At this point I am so low in confidence and so anxious around everyone I literally can't do my job anymore (you have to be really confident in phone jobs). I am so unhappy at this loss of confidence that has taken 7 years to build up that i start feeling suicidal. The whole time he says absoultly nothing nice to me, ignores me, won't speak to me.

I end up handing in my notice to leave, I tell him and he just smiles at me really smugly and won't say anything.

Then on Saturday I see him at a party. He is being nice the whole night and is initiating conversations with me then says out of the blue ''Sorry I feel uncomfortable talking to you''. I am so angry I hit him in the face and say ''you have been horrible to me and I think it's because there is something in yourself you don't like, I could ruin your life if I wanted to.''



So basically we've had this awful falling out and now he constantly undermines me and treats me like ****. The reasons I can think of he is being so mean to me 1) He feels vulnerable around me because I know he got abused as a child 2) he feels I massively switched on him after he told me that and have subsequently shown a lack of understanding by blaming it on weed 3) I said to him once ''I'm just trying to understand why you do these things!'' which he might not like 4) he thinks I have feelings toward him (I don't actually).

I don't really know what to do here. I'm leaving the job this friday tempted to message him on facebook something like ''I know you have massive issues but you can't let that impact on other people'.. He deals with his issues in such a way he makes you feel like you've done something wrong when you haven't, it's horrible. He has wrecked my confidence compeltly and made me feel like a bad person.

Thanks for reading if you did. :)
 
TOO MUCH DRUGS! awooooogga

people doing mdma and becoming best friends and displaying mood disorders and paranoia- standard effects of too much drugs of the wrong sort to overdo.

mdma is NOT for regular use as it can make you too empathetic and emotional and unsure of yourself.

cut out the drugs and avoid this borderline personality/sociopath. you sound kind of lacking and this job made you confident.

the only way to be confident is to act it and in time it will come. phone confidence for me is false, moreso than real body language/facial expression confidence.

this man is a big twat and you need to cut him out of your life as he enjoys messing with your head and to some degree its easy for him as you DID fancy him. one gay to another, when a man who plays your mind makes you feel shit, get him out of your life asap.

also you are an easy target as you are sensitive, what you need is no more mdma as it will exacerbate your emotional instability and lack of self esteem- serotonin is ESSENTIAL for calm emotions and balance within your head and heart

in time away from this man you will feel better. find another job maybe with an agency and stop canning the drugs when you haven't got your mental shit in order- i was where you are years back. try getting B-vitamin complex (the super strong kind from health food shops, the shit in boots is useless) and fish oils. then some 5htp and get excercise and do positive things to branch out your life in non- drug related ways
 
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sociopathic? BPD is not fucking sociopathy.
Anyway, I don't get it. You 2 obviously aren't compatible, appreciate the fleeting experience for what it was and move on. You said you were making lots of friends, so why get caught up in this?
Why do you feel the need to get your confidence from others?
You seem just as extreme/polar as him, but it seems to come from regret if anything.
I don't know, and although vitamins and supplements aren't going to do any harm I think they're unnecessary unless you've been doing drugs a lot, not just at a few parties, idk though I didn't read all of it.
 
Thanks for reading it guys.

I don't think I have any real emotional problems myself but I am very very very very sensitive (everyone tells me this) and very emotional (have been doing MDMA semi-regularly since i was 16 that may have something to do with it haha) and I just absoultly loved this guy in a platonic way he was my best friend, so I'm feeling alot of regret mainly because I worry I have handled the situation badly myself, although I'm starting to get more into the mindset that the problem was actually him rather than me and most people wouldnt have been able to deal with it. We have a mutual friend who has fallen out with him 3 times already and is scared to fall out properly because of how he has treated me. I have never had a relationship before and this was the most intense friendship I've had with another person in my life so it's really affected me.

I will never have to see him again as of Friday so thinking of messaging him on facebook something like ''I know you have alot of issues but you can't let that affect how other people feel' because he needs to hear this, it is unfair that it has dented my confidence (though i shouldnt have let it) and cost me a job I loved.
 
It's him not you. Your obviously sane but emotionally raw because he was your friend and you liked him. He's a dickhead.
 
sociopathic? BPD is not fucking sociopathy.
idk though I didn't read all of it.

extreme borderline personality can be hard to distinguish from sociopathy

he could be either/both based on this limited info (unstable mood affect and behaviour). definitely some sort of personality disorder. clearly the op has been caning the drugs quite a bit, maybe read the whole thing before scooting down to pull apart someone elses opinion:/

this guy was not a friend just a bit of a loonatic- you need him out of your life, my advice comes from experience but some people like to pull the wings off a fly for their own entertainment. dont let yourself be that fly...
 
Thing is he does have good sides as well. He really listens to what you have to say, he makes his friends like mixtapes and stuff, he values you as a friend, is really honest. (although does undermine you at the same time).

He is just kinda bizzare. He says he is very picky about the people he is friends with (perhaps to make you feel special dunno) and I met his best friend from home once and the guy was just completely mental. He kept lying over and over again the same lie that he was a gypsy cage fighter?? Really bizzare.


The worst thing is he has alot of charm so unless he gets to know you properly and lets his guard down you don't see his true colours. Hmmm.
 
well if someone undermined me i would avoid them despite their good qualities. mdma abuse makes a person over sensitive so maybe a long break will give your heart a break and let your balls and ego get back in the game. it also makes you forgive way too much that normally you wouldn't tolerate and sometimes people aren't worthy of being forgiven, more simply just forgotten and then you move on...

charm is easily found time and time again in different people all over the place. i think you are hung up on him for a sexual love angle and thats what the weird tension between you two is. trust me this shit is toxic long term.

move on, new situation, new people fresh faces, chance for new friends......................
 
Yeah I think you're right I think there is a sexual element to it, also I thought for ages it might be love but don't think it is as have been in love before and that was different and I wouldn't be doubting it.

Will never have to see him again as of Friday and literally cannot wait - it is literally all I can think about at the moment it is doing my head in. Will still probably send a message on facebook though and just be brutally honest about how mental and unfair he has been because I know for a fact he is trying to ruin my repuation atm and it isn't fair. Thanks for your replies everyone. :)
 
just block him on facebook and avoid him. wasting your time telling people who are dickheads why they are dickheads isn't going to get you anywhere. this smacks of lust gone sour having to have the last word, you're wasting your time as people dont change unless that change comes from within- nothing you say to him will have a profound effect on his personality, but if you need to do it for catharsis go ahead
 
Avoid him! He's playing games and you don't need it.
Why waste time with him, his drama and mind games?
 
I don't think you should message him on facebook. It doesn't achieve anything positive, and if anything, will undermine your own position/confidence further because it shows you're still emotionally invested in him. Nothing you could possibly say to him is going to get through to him and convey the message you want, not even in the slightest.

Although I know it's hard, I'd try to not theorise on why he turned on you. I don't think it's worthwhile as you'll probably never find a satisfactory answer. His behaviour seems irrational, therefore using logic/rationality to try and figure out what went wrong just wont work.

I think that when Friday comes it'd be best for you to focus on moving on from this whole experience, letting this guy go completely, and making peace with the situation. It is what it is, maybe you could've done something different that would've altered the outcome, but you're here now and all you can do is move forward. I don't think it's a bad thing you've fallen out with this guy either. From the sounds of things the relationship was never stable, and it sounds emotionally exhausting. You say that other friends have had trouble with him too - I think this suggests that it really is a problem with him, rather than you.
 
Yeah I was thinking he might be borderline too.

Thanks for reading my essay guys. At the moment this guy is like all I can think about and it's subsequently made me a pretty boring person to be around can't wait till I get him out of my head, new job should do it.

Thanks again, peace xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
 
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