Misc fake pot

[dessy1994]

So my bf was a heavy user with drugs. Not only pot and pills pretty much anything he could get his hands on:weed, xanax, crack, heroine, cocaine, LSD, synthetic cocaine, methadones, loratabs, percs. Well he had to get clean for work and he started smoke stuff called ramseys 3. AKA synthetic marijuana. There more he smoked it the more I would see him getting angry when he didn't have it, crave it, when he did smoke it he would forget where he would put things, he wouldn't talk to me, he would just be dead. Could this drug have played a role in he psychosis?

Anybody know anything about synthetic pot??

 

[Lorne???]

Those synthetic blends are untested, and far from proven safe.

They have indeed caused symptoms of psychosis, but that is rare.

But who knows? Maybe this particular blend destroys neurons, instantly and eventually gives you the "glass syndrome". Or maybe it makes you a sexy genius.(unlikely)

We don't know, because no one knows what's in those blends. We could only speculate. And this isn't the forum to discuss synthetic cannabinoids, in any case.

Good luck with you're BF, he sounds absolutely dreadful.?

 

[sailor bugg]

jwh-xx

 

[Jesusgreen]

All cannabinoids affect memory, whether it's THC in weed or some synthetic cannabinoid in a legal blend. So the forgetting things part isn't at all unusual.

Anger and cravings are less common but still not all that uncommon when it comes to heavy cannabinoid use - the synthetic cannabinoids in these blends are often significantly stronger than THC and present in much larger amounts than THC would be in a similar weight of weed - they're usually designed so that you can smoke 50-100mg of the blend for a good high, rather than rolling big joints or whatever. The more you consume the more side effects you'll experience, and if you consume really large amounts (which is very easy with the synthetic blends) you'll soon notice you'll feel bored or agitated without it.

Also just like any weed the synthetic cannabinoids can also make you withdraw and become not very sociable at high doses since you go far inside your head and think too much, so if he's on high doses all the time that explains why he's acting so cold.

He should cut down on the amounts and not smoke 24/7. He should consider getting one of those little one hitter pipes and smoking out of one of those instead of big bowls or joints if he doesn't already.

 

[JackBurton89]

I have smoked a lot of weed in the past. I also smoked different types of that synthetic shit from other people, never would buy it. I have had shit that made me really out of it, like a cloudy grav bong feeling, felt nothing, but even if it is one of the "better" blends. They all, for me, have the same thing in common. There is no euphoria, its like shitty weed without and euphoria. Even regs or bc bud has euphoria. Being high with no euphoria is pointless to me.

 

[88dood88]

Its not surprising, as real weed can bring out dormant mental issues, and these synthetic cannabinoids hit the receptors WAY way harder. Trust me I know because I was vaping this shit 24/7 for like 6 months straight. Not very fun coming off of them either, and you feel like a zombie while on em for awhile

 

[legalizeall]

Its not surprising, as real weed can bring out dormant mental issues, and these synthetic cannabinoids hit the receptors WAY way harder. Trust me I know because I was vaping this shit 24/7 for like 6 months straight. Not very fun coming off of them either, and you feel like a zombie while on em for awhile

One common mistake is that people think that weed or marijuana is similar to these blends. This other shit is sprayed with a mix of different chemicals and you cant be sure which chemicals are being used and they can have extreme effects on the brain. They have also be known to cause death unlike good ol regular weed. But these arent the same as weed, not by a long shot.

 

[Jesusgreen]

One common mistake is that people think that weed or marijuana is similar to these blends. This other shit is sprayed with a mix of different chemicals and you cant be sure which chemicals are being used and they can have extreme effects on the brain. They have also be known to cause death unlike good ol regular weed. But these arent the same as weed, not by a long shot.

As someone who knows people who have made and sold blends in headshops themselves, most blends are a mix of inactive herbs which have been laced with synthetic cannabinoids, like JWH-018 or AM-2201. These cannabinoids bind as agonists to the cannabinoid receptors, i.e. CB1, CB2 - just like THC.

The reason people have had seizures, ended up in hospital, awful experiences etc from these blends is because well.. firstly the cannabinoids are usually stronger than THC, and secondly they're usually present in much larger amounts.

THC itself can kill you, it's just with the amounts in weed you'd have to have lungs the size of a horse and a vacuum of a mouth to be able to hoover up that much plant material to get to it all. If you had pure THC powder, like how those making these blends have pure cannabinoids of various types, then you could put as much or as little as you like on a gram - and considering that you could smoke enough THC to at least give you a seizure when dealing with the powder, and that in itself has the chance of being fatal, if you were able to make your weed hyper-potent you'd get people ending up in hospital (or the morgue) from that too.

 

[legalizeall]

As someone who knows people who have made and sold blends in headshops themselves, most blends are a mix of inactive herbs which have been laced with synthetic cannabinoids, like JWH-018 or AM-2201. These cannabinoids bind as agonists to the cannabinoid receptors, i.e. CB1, CB2 - just like THC.

The reason people have had seizures, ended up in hospital, awful experiences etc from these blends is because well.. firstly the cannabinoids are usually stronger than THC, and secondly they're usually present in much larger amounts.

THC itself can kill you, it's just with the amounts in weed you'd have to have lungs the size of a horse and a vacuum of a mouth to be able to hoover up that much plant material to get to it all. If you had pure THC powder, like how those making these blends have pure cannabinoids of various types, then you could put as much or as little as you like on a gram - and considering that you could smoke enough THC to at least give you a seizure when dealing with the powder, and that in itself has the chance of being fatal, if you were able to make your weed hyper-potent you'd get people ending up in hospital (or the morgue) from that too.

So again, like i said before, these are not similar to weed.

 

[Lorne???]

Weed also has other substances(not just THC) which contribute to it's effects. It is hypothesized that the anxiolytic effect of some of the other CB's gives a kind of protective effect against THC/CB agonism.

There is also the vast difference in effects a partial agonist has from a full agonist. But JG is right; they are cannabonoids, so you can't dismiss the comparison.

But I hate these things because they are just a big fucking ?. Especially now that JWH-xxx is illegal, who the hell knows what's in them.

I've tried several, (back before they started scheduling them) and it ranges from extremely similar to weed, to feeling fucking toxic and thinking you're turning schizophrenic(or Japanese???)