EZ test Xtreme questions

[Macksta]

I have a couple of questions relating to EZ Test Xtreme.
With the Simon's reagent test.
Assuming your pill turned blue with the Classic test, you know that there is an E like substance in there.
Now is that enough knowledge? Does it really matter what that E like substance is? Or are there some nasty E like substances that would appear blue using classic, but really knock you around horribly if you ingested them? If so can you please tell me what they are?
My second question is with the Robadope agent. People I've talked to say taking MDA is quite nice and is ok to do. However because EZ Xtreme shows MDA and PMA up with a red colour and doesn't differentiate between the two, I kind of come to the conclusion that anyone who owns an EZ Xtreme test must never actually have MDA themselves, because when tested they would not be able to determine whether it is PMA or MDA.
Is this the case?
Thanks Macksta

 

[johnboy]

If your Marquis (EZ Test Classic) turns purple/black it means you have either MDMA, MDEA, MBDB, or MDA. These are the chemicals we refer to as "Ecstasy-like substance". Of the four only MDA is markedly different in its subjective effects, all the others will give you roughly the same experience. Even experienced users would be hard pressed to tell the difference between a low dose of MDMA and MDEA or MBDB. MDA is different because it apparently works on the dopamine system as well as the serotonin system, causing it to be more "speedy" and "trippy".
None of these four would be considered dangerous, or rather more dangerous than each other. All drugs have inherent risks, but it is felt that all of the above have roughly the same side effects. It was thought that MDA would be more prone to neuro-toxicity because of its involvement with the dopamine system, by lately there has been a re-thinking of the way neurotoxicity happens, so this may not be the case. But then again user reports have indicated that there can be a heavier come down from MDA, so who knows.
Yes it is true that both PMA and MDA will give the same reaction with Robadope. This means that an MDMA/PMA mix pill and an MDA/MDMA mix pill would look indentical. And yes i imagine that if people discard a pill because of this reaction they may be discarding a (relatively) benign MDA/MDMA pill, but that's up to them. I admire the caution of such people; it is better to be safe than sorry. PMA is not to be messed with.
But remember this is only the case with mixed substances. If a pill tests clear with Marquis, yet gives a reaction to Robadope then it is most likely PMA. Remember that mixed PMA/MDMA pills have been very rare so far, and there have been a great many PMA only pills.
[ 05 May 2002: Message edited by: johnboy ]

 

[Macksta]

thanks johnboy, that was XTREMEly informative

 

[Swoosh18]

Also, with your Simons test. If the reaction is blue it's mdma like substance. If no color change it's MDA. Assuming you've already tested with Marquis and found a mdxx like substance. I personally don't have the robadope, although I want it. I have the mecke that tests primarily for opiates. (along with marquis and simons)

 

[easy e]

swoosh: there's no way you can say with certainty that it's mda when it doesn't show a reaction with simons. you have to use robadope for this..
mbdb will not give a reaction with simon's but will go black with marquis..