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slimeskul

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K I ordered from wellcoolstuff a EZ test Extreme , but I got an EZ-Test Supreme.But in the Box I have both Extreme and Supreme instructions, but I have 4 bottles.One says "EZ TEST" , then I have "SUPREME TEST PHASE" with a blank box but on the end of the label it says 1. then I have another "SUPREME TEST PHASE" with a blank box but on the end of the label it says 2.
But the 4th bottle says "SUPREME TEST PHASE 3"
Someone wanna tell me whats happening here , and how I should use them as both the instructions seem to differ a bit and I need to know how to use this kit for tommmorow night.
cheers
slime
 
I agree....the instructions provided are waaaaay confusing....I still don't fully understand how to use it or what the results mean...but if you go to the EZ test web site. the instructions are more clear and are a combination of all the different instructions provided.
I still can't work out if it can tell me whether a pill has MDA or PMA or whether it can only identifyu that it may contain either or both....
It's all very confusing :-)
 
You can not differentiate MDA from PMA with home tests. The closest this gets is: if other test reagents indicate ecstasy and simon's/robadope indicates primary amines, you PROBABLY have MDA. If other reagents indicate NO ecstasy, but robadope is positive, you most likely have PMA or amphetamine (if amphetamine, your Marquis test will have indicated this already).
 
I wish they would make those directions clearer. I'm tired of answering questions at DS about kits we didn't even sell.
 
Of course you can differenciate PMA from MDA assuming you have two pure samples. ie one is just PMA and one is MDA. MDA will still go purple->black whilst PMA will not react at all.
The 1, 2 & 3 I agree are a little confusing for those that don't read the instructions. (lol I hope I get this part right myself)
The 1,2,3 is two tests. That is 1+2 is one test, whilst 3+2 is another. You should apply the drops in that order. 1 is Simons reagent. 3 is Robadope. 2 is the 'fixer' solution, it basically makes the reactions happen once you have have mixed the sample and the reagent together.
 
Yes, and believe it or not a the easyInternet cafe (its a franchise) filters would not let me log into bluelight or the eztest homepage.I'm in Amsterdam atm. LOL - could still get into pillreports however.
 
Originally posted by Soma:
Of course you can differenciate PMA from MDA assuming you have two pure samples..You're right, and I should have been more clear. I was not making that assumption. I was highlighting the uncertainty of a pill's contents even when using presumptive reagent tests. A pill with PMA and a trace of MDA would react just like one with only MDA, for instance. Joe User doesn't have acces to "pure samples."
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"Someone wanna tell me whats happening here"
and
"the instructions provided are waaaaay confusing"
PLEASE, ALWAYS CHECK OUR WEBSITE FOR INSTRUCTIONS. THE INFO LEAFLET IS OLD AND WE SIMPLY DO NOT HAVE THE CASH TO PRINT NEW ONES.
"if other test reagents indicate ecstasy and simon's/robadope indicates primary amines, you PROBABLY have MDA"
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I do not agree here. Purple(1), blue(2) and salmon red (3) may indicate MDA but IT COULD be PMA or (toxic) leftovers from the production process. At least you know the pill contains something that should not be there. We only want MDMA don't we ?
"tired of answering questions at DS about kits we didn't even sell."
The customers are provided with an email address where they can direct their questions. If they still post it at DS pls. direct them to us and we'll answer those questions.
"A pill with PMA and a trace of MDA would react just like one with only MDA"
No, it would not go blue with Simons.
MDA does not change color with Simons.
The person that died in The Netherlands last year ate 2 MDA/PMA pills. Needless to say that he should have tested, Simons would have indicated that there was something ugly with those pills.
aj
 
djfriendly; wow, that's a shite attitude.
Bluelight sells no kits, although we do have a relationship with EZ Test. We're happy to answer anyones questions, about whatever kit they might have. We answer a lot about Mecke, which other companies don't put much faith in.
Don't want to answer question about a competitors products in your forum ? Fine, I'll come over and help you then. Harm Min shouldn't be about only supporting one product.
 
Originally posted by johnboy:
djfriendly; wow, that's a shite attitude.
Bluelight sells no kits, although we do have a relationship with EZ Test. We're happy to answer anyones questions, about whatever kit they might have. We answer a lot about Mecke, which other companies don't put much faith in.
Don't want to answer question about a competitors products in your forum ? Fine, I'll come over and help you then. Harm Min shouldn't be about only supporting one product.I apologise for my tone, it was inappropriate - it was not meant to sound so snooty and you points are taken.
1) I'm happy to answer anyone's questions at DS, I shouldn't have said that. But I do think the directions are somewhat confusing to the average user. Heck, a lot of people can't even figure out how to use the DS kits. The "Phase 1-2-3" thing seems to really confuse people. I didn't mean to denegrate the ez-test product, in fact as I've learned more about it have begun pointing out to DS users the benefits of the Robadope reagent, for which ez-test is the sole source.
2) I personally don't put a lot of stock in Mecke myself, but I do like it for its DXM reaction. I'm in complete agreement w/ you that Marquis should be the primary test reagent.
3) Sorry again for coming off as a wiseass! We all have our days, and I appreciate your pointing out my bad attitude and allowing me a chance to clarify my post. You took me too seriously, but I can't blame you.
I've studied and studied the ez-test directions, and I still don't understand how this could distinguish a pill with MDA only from a MDA/PMA combo. My understanding is that both pills would react thus - Marquis: black, Mecke: green/purple, Simon's: no reaction, Robadope: red. If this is interpretation is wrong, then the directions at ez-test are definitely unclear.
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Hey there,
I agree with djfriendly - I don't really like mecke either, but to have such a definitive test for DXM in a country that actually sees DXM in their pills is great.
As for the instructions thing, well I'm on holidays at the moment in Europe and had the opportunity to meet Aj and see a Robadope reaction happen. Its really difficult to describe because its such a subtle colour change compared to the brilliant reactions of marquis and simons.
Those test instructions do need a bit of an overhaul, especially with 'what is what' type situations. Especially the DXM/fizzing thing with marquis and strong MDMA reactions, and the 'test 1 2 and 3 ' thing with the extreme kit.
I'm willing to have a go at it and provide some pointers (like changing the bottle labels) if you like Aj, if you would like a native English speaker's imput that is!
djfriendly: You are right in that it is impossible with these reagents to test for MDA/PMA combination. Both MDA/PMA and MDA will react in the same way with all the reagents. However that aside, there is a bigger point/lesson to be learnt. If you test positive for a primary amine, your chances of getting PMA in the mix are infinitely larger than a sample that does not test positive for a primary amine. The chances may be slim, and you are more likely getting say a MDMA/MDA mix than MDMA/PMA, but it does happen, people have died from it, and there are many more pills with just MDMA in it that you could choose from to make it a valid test to include in a well rounded testing strategy.
 
djfriendly: no worries at all. we all have those days, i know i do ;)
just so long as no one has missed the most important thing that AJ has said about these instructions:
WE SIMPLY DO NOT HAVE THE CASH TO PRINT NEW ONES.
this is really what it all comes down to. EZ test is not a big company, its a couple of guys doing the best that they can.
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