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Extracting propylene glycol

negrogesic

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I have a cigar humidifier solution that supposedly contains a 50:50 blend of water and propylene glycol. By boil the solution, would I be left with pure propylene glycol?
 
Yeah, that would work, or atleast greatly increase the concentration.

Forgive my ignorance, but what has this to do with drugs?
 
are you thinking you will use it as a solvent for some kind of hydrophobic drug like valium?

i wouldn't go injecting humidifier solution i don't care what the ingredient list says.
 
You should be able to purchase propylene glycol easy enough. You'll have a hard time getting pure pg, since it's bound to start absorbing water from the air quite rapidly.
 
are you thinking you will use it as a solvent for some kind of hydrophobic drug like valium?

i wouldn't go injecting humidifier solution i don't care what the ingredient list says.

Excuse me, who are you, again?

What makes you jump to the conclusion that Negrogesic wants to necessarily inject valium using humidifier solution? Have you bothered looking at all his posts over the several years on this site?

I mean, if a n00b like you posted a question like that, then yes, I'd assume you are going to use it to inject valium.

But this is clearly not the case. As a matter of fact, I know exactly why negro posted this question: he (and I) are looking for ideas as to how to dissolve, preserve, and measure out phenazepam.

In short: STFU.
 
Excuse me, who are you, again?

What makes you jump to the conclusion that Negrogesic wants to necessarily inject valium using humidifier solution? Have you bothered looking at all his posts over the several years on this site?

I mean, if a n00b like you posted a question like that, then yes, I'd assume you are going to use it to inject valium.

But this is clearly not the case. As a matter of fact, I know exactly why negro posted this question: he (and I) are looking for ideas as to how to dissolve, preserve, and measure out phenazepam.

In short: STFU.

jamshyd wind your f'kin neck in.
you may have a multitude of sienna colored posts but that does not qualify you to have a go at someone for no reason at all.
 
jamshyd wind your f'kin neck in.
you may have a multitude of sienna colored posts but that does not qualify you to have a go at someone for no reason at all.

HERE HERE!!!

Seriously Jamshyd...wtf was that all about??
Are you seriously annoyed with that guy for somehow not being privy to the private conversations you have with other members?

So long as this site continues to pretend to be about harm reduction, how can you as a mod, possibly be upset when someone posts a well intended warning about not injecting a dangerous solvent.

-Dg
 
sorry i didn't mean to offend. no i have not been here long enough to know what kinds of posts all the people write. i was just thinking harm reduction.
 
it turns out that you can buy food grade propylene glycol on the internet. a gallon for like 50 bucks.
 
Yeah. I don't know why you'd go to all that trouble, it's not like it's controlled or anything. If the cops came to your house you could tell them you were just preparing for your weekly orgy.
 
jamshyd wind your f'kin neck in.
you may have a multitude of sienna colored posts but that does not qualify you to have a go at someone for no reason at all.

What does my post count have anything to do with this?

Have I mentioned my post count anywhere?

No I did not. Thank you.

There is a reason, actually. There has been a slew of new members posting completely irrelevant shit (in all of BL, but especially in this forum for some reason) and I'm just getting sick of it.

Btw, daddysgone, this also has nothing to do with "private conversations" - if you scroll down a couple of threads you'll see that said conversations are, in fact, public.
 
Well it seemed to work; i simmered 100ml for a while and ended up with around 55ml of liquid, which i filtered in a clear solution. Who knows whats else is in, but at these concentrations its should not be a big concern. I realize


The best stuff to use is 95%+ ethanol, perhaps with some pg or peg 4000....


None of this is for injection. The only things i prepare for inject are pure, water soluble drugs that have made it through the micron filter....
 
well hell, now im all curious. why do you need pg to measure and preserve phenazepam? why not just measure out solids?
 
^ Because phenazepam is active at microgram doses and with it, unlike with most other benzos, a mistake in dose can result in serious consequences as it is long-lasting and VERY amnesic yet not very hypnotic - a bad recipe for blacking out but staying awake and doing stupid things.

Btw, sorry if I lashed out on you. I didn't mean to single you out, but you just happened to be the last of several people I've seen post something completely irrelevant just to raise their post-count. Maybe that was not your intent, but either way, you did assume too much. So I apologize as far as the unnecessary derogatory tone.
 
hey man don't sweat it a bit, and good luck with your studies!

as for phenazepam, have you tried it yet? how long does it take to reach full effects?
 
^ Thanks for the kind words :)

I have tried phenaz a long time ago. I really don't recall the specifics, but my doses ranged from something like 250mics to 2mg (I have high benzo tolerance). I believe it took at least 2 hours to fully-develop, although it starts to be felt at least within 1 hour. Of all benzos, it is the most "sneaky"... you sort of just find yourself fogged out after a long time of not noticing much. It lasts quite a while, I'd say the main effects last a bit more than lorazepam or flunitrazepam for me (7-9hrs).

It is actually the closest I've tried to Midazolam, but then again I seem to be one of the few who don't find midazolam particularly euphoric - just extremely amnesic.
 
wow up to 1 hour until you feel effects, long duration, amnesic, and potent. sounds like it could be dangerous. i have been thinking about playing with some anxiolytics simply for personal growth, not for abuse. i will probably not be messing with this though, since i am relatively benzo intolerant!

but midazolam is short acting right? something im more interested in.
 
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I seem to be one of the few who don't find midazolam particularly euphoric - just extremely amnesic.

I find it both. :)

Did you IV it? I don't find it euphoric by any other route, myself. It gives kind of a rush when IV:d.

Although I don't do it anymore. Too much addiction potential.

ps. sorry for o/t
 
^ Funny you ask, I actually had it IVed a couple of weeks ago for endoscopy. It wasn't particularly thrilling. I just felt like my thinking was being slowed down at a very high rate, and maybe slightly relaxed (but then again I was experiencing traumatic anxiety at the time, AND had a high tolerance).

onmyway: phenaz is definitely not the best choice for a first-time benzo experience. It is pretty weird in its action and someone who doesn't know what to look for may get very lost on it.

I think the only thing stopping phenaz from becoming a premier drink-spiking drug is the fact that it is so poorly soluble.
 
it is long-lasting and VERY amnesic yet not very hypnotic - a bad recipe for blacking out but staying awake and doing stupid things.

And for this reason isn't too recreationally useful, IME. Also has a high impairment to perceived high ratio. Good if you want to say something stupid on the phone that you don't remember though. ;)

ebola
 
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