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Extracting D-amphetamine & Methylphenidate ?

Hugs & Drugs

Hugs & Drugs

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i have been doing a bit of research, but have procured no results
i was wondering if there is a (relatively) simple method of extracting dexamphetamine or methylphenidate from the binders etc?
this being IR tablets, not XR

also note, this would be for nasal ROA (generally speaking) so absolute purity is not required
insufflating IR 5mg d-amphetamine and 10mg Ritalin seems to yield low results, because of the binder content
so im just looking to increase my bang for my buck

cheers
:)

p.s. if anyone knows the bio-availability percentages for either dex or ritalin, please do share
...that is - oral, nasal, rectal (IV is not an option for me)

(posted it here instead of BDD because i doubt my question will be answered over there)
haha
 
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Binders up the nose is not good in large quanties, even common sense makes me think that.

Is consuming orally not fast enough of a come up?
 
.....Why would you use your presciption meds to get high???

I mean if you have a legitimate disorder that needs to be curbed, what good can it possibly do you?

I'm sorry, but I think that's a touch irresponsible. And a good way to fuck up your treatment plan in the long term if your parents/doc get wind of your real intentions behind getting 'diagnosed'.....
 
although i have dabbled in recreational stimulant use (prescription and illegally)
i am wanting to extract the dex and ritalin for educational purposes

i find that when i snort ritalin (oral is horrible) i am wanting more, unless i have at least 7-8
and dex didn't hit me very hard orally tbh, so i was thinking extraction could lead to epic nasal BA
:)

i suppose insufflating my script looks pretty dodgey
but if it gets me thinking clearer and gets my motivation up, and more importantly - keeps it up, than i say why not

however i dont wanna destroy my schnozz, which will help me curb usage
cheers for the comments (y)

no one know the bio-availability of d-amphetamine or methylphenidate?
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educational purposes? lol

sure, I've tried every drug under the sun (except for some of the 2c-x family), for my own private research & edification, too!

unless you're conducting some high level, pharmaceutical company-commissioned, bio-chemical lab research....then that excuse holds zero cred :p
 
Hugs & Drugs said:
although i have dabbled in recreational stimulant use (prescription and illegally)
i am wanting to extract the dex and ritalin for educational purposes

i find that when i snort ritalin (oral is horrible) i am wanting more, unless i have at least 7-8
and dex didn't hit me very hard orally tbh, so i was thinking extraction could lead to epic nasal BA
:)

i suppose insufflating my script looks pretty dodgey
but if it gets me thinking clearer and gets my motivation up, and more importantly - keeps it up, than i say why not

however i dont wanna destroy my schnozz, which will help me curb usage
cheers for the comments (y)

no one know the bio-availability of d-amphetamine or methylphenidate?
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So..Basically you are wanting to increase the bioavailability of your drugs so you can get a stronger "hit"...this is just a round-about way of saying you want to take more..with out having to actually take any more. Over time your tolerance will build up to this stronger dose and then you will be forced to increase your dosage to chase that high you seem to so desire.

Tell your doctor that you are doing this the next time you go and lets see if you come home with a script...i fking doubt it.

Use your meds for what they are for. Not for getting high. Anybody who actually has ADHD and uses their meds responsibly knows that after a while you're not supposed to "feel" the high...thats right, no euphoria, no kick.....just stick to your fucking prescribed dose and go about your daily business...It is because of people like you that the pharmacist treats me like I'm some kind of junkie/criminal every time i go to fill my repeats.
 
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tr3jo said:
I dont know about you but i donno how keen i would be to shove 5 R10`s where the sun does not shine lol
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Indeed, that would be a terrible idea. If you desire to plug pharmaceutical stimulants or opiates for that matter you should crush the pills up, mix/dissolve them into a small amount of water, then suck the solution into a needleless syringe and plug them that way as a liquid.

Don't bother snorting d-amp, besides a faster onset, shorter overall length and increased side effects (anxiety, jitters) it won't help you concentrate any better. Infact snorting dexies is highly unpleasant IMO, seriously - just swallow them, they're designed to be taken that way.

I'm scripted dexies and I'll admit I used to mess around with the ROA but at the end of the day I've learnt the best way to get the most therapeutic benefit from them is to use them orally, no question.
 
"So..Basically you are wanting to increase the bioavailability of your drugs so you can get a stronger "hit"...this is just a round-about way of saying you want to take more..with out having to actually take any more. Over time your tolerance will build up to this stronger dose and then you will be forced to increase your dosage to chase that high you seem to so desire.

Tell your doctor that you are doing this the next time you go and lets see if you come home with a script...i fking doubt it.

Use your meds for what they are for. Not for getting high. Anybody who actually has ADHD and uses their meds responsibly knows that after a while you're not supposed to "feel" the high...thats right, no euphoria, no kick.....just stick to your fucking prescribed dose and go about your daily business...It is because of people like you that the pharmacist treats me like I'm some kind of junkie/criminal every time i go to fill my repeats."

^ look bro, as far as i know BlueLight is a harm reduction website
me wanting to filter out impurities/binders could be interpreted as harm reduction
so why are you trying to dissuade me from getting this info?

i dont go railing 10 rits or popping 10 dexies a night, i just find that i am better suited to infrequent - higher doses
and you dont know me, or what i do, so dont try and fucking judge me
because you're a bluelighter to *help* people minimise harm...

"Lol! Was waiting for some to say that haha You cant really mix the words educational purposes with snorting lol"

^ haha yeeh, i suppose it does look pretty recreational rather than therapeutic
but i find that i am wanting more of a motivational boost, as oral ritalin merely makes me awake
anyone else have this problem with ritalin &/or dexamphetamine?

"I'm scripted dexies and I'll admit I used to mess around with the ROA but at the end of the day I've learnt the best way to get the most therapeutic benefit from them is to use them orally, no question."

^ that was why i wanted to find an extraction, perhaps nasal BA could be greatly improved...?
but as you say, taking them orally is probably the wiser decision
...in regards to therapeutic use anyway
 
Hugs & Drugs said:
^ look bro, as far as i know BlueLight is a harm reduction website
me wanting to filter out impurities/binders could be interpreted as harm reduction
so why are you trying to dissuade me from getting this info?

i dont go railing 10 rits or popping 10 dexies a night, i just find that i am better suited to infrequent - higher doses
and you dont know me, or what i do, so dont try and fucking judge me
because you're a bluelighter to *help* people minimise harm...
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Like i said, go tell ur doctor about what you are doing re: infrequent higher doses. I guarantee 100% that he or she will stop prescribing you right then and there. Why? because it is drug abuse, no two ways about it. Using medication in a way other than prescribed = abuse of that medication. Irrespective of whether you think it is better for you or not.

Dude. Im thinking harm reduction in the overall scheme of things, once u start messing round with ur d-5's or r-10's its harder to pull back and go back to normal...its not worth it dude. Just stick with using your medication in the way it was prescribed..if it isnt working as well as it could be, talk to your doctor about it. If you genuinely have ADHD then you will genuinely want to get better right? Your Doc is there to help you get better.
 
"go tell ur doctor about what you are doing re: infrequent higher doses."

HAHA, KDA (known drug abuser) will be written in yr notes, and no stims for you, and you seem more interested in stims to party with, which makes it harder on honest folks

If your Doc knows you, it'l be better, like my Doc, who just increased my Ritalin SR dose twice, when i said it lasts 5 hours not 8. it's now 40mgs SR 3x daily, 120mgs.

Name brand tabs 20mg are much cleaner and actually smaller than the 10mg IR.
 
cheers for the comments (y)
i guess in regards to extraction, i assume people are unsure of a method..?

i checked out that link lil angel
the only BA for dex there was oral, unfortunately
but thanks anyway

and you seem more interested in stims to party with, which makes it harder on honest folks
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^ i have only ever used ritalin once, and dex once to party with
(and i was no prescribed stims when i had the dex)
i do finding that they were fun nights, but i would rather my use revolve around schoolwork and exams

in all honesty, i just want semi-pure dexamphetamine or methylphenidate
so that *studying* and *exams* are softened, not to go partying on
:)
 
How does the purity make a difference? I mean, for all intents & purposes of your treatment plan - if it was going to be dangerous for you, they wouldn't have prescribed it in the first place!
 
if recreation is defined as; a dose that leaves me feeling a desire to complete homework/study
then by all means yes, i wish to use them recreationally
by if you mean, to use to go out partying etc, then you are very mistaken...

yes, i wish to snort them (ritalin at the very least, as i find it useless taken orally)
it improves my willingness and drive to do homework and study, in comparison to oral...
snorting the binders is my main concern though, has no one experienced this??

as for dexamphetamine, i wish to at least experience intranasal ROA, to see how effective it is compared to oral (in regards to motivation!)

note: i have no intention to use my script to go out partying and whatnot, i wish to use it to improve levels of motivation to therefore make studying an option
 
If your dose is not sufficient to 'get your work done', then logic suggests you should ask for a higher one, without all the hullabaloo involved in 'extracting as a means to improve purity'.

Just a thought
:)
 
tr3jo: i know no one will judge me, if i wanted to extract them to do at parties i would have stated that
but where im at now, i feel as though im waiting for the pills to fully kick in
and i get kinda anxious, i feel like they *should* be doing more
so i cant concentrate because i keep thinking about when they will fully "kick in"
like im on brink or some shit...

i would love to do them at parties man, but i cant risk the tolerance build-up
hell, i've already got a natural tolerance to most drugs, which may be why i experience less-than-desirable effects

but i guess snorting will lead me to want to do it more often, just for kicks
i have felt the temptation already, but have not acted upon the thought
also, for the safety of my nose, oral is probably best

thanks hyroller, i will most likely ask for a higher dose
but as i haven't been diagnosed very long, i dont want him to get suss :\

cheers anyway
:)
 
"as for dexamphetamine, i wish to at least experience intranasal ROA, "

It's 5mg Dex in a 200mg pill!! BINDERS

Ritalin absorb under yr tongue for better BIO
 
Hugs & Drugs - messing with your meds is a very slippery slope, especially for someone in their last year of high school. Repeat intervals are tight, not much wiggle room for messing with your daily dose.

After a while it becomes real easy to burn through your medication and then be left with 2 weeks or so before your next repeat is due. Now imagine if that happens during your HSC exams, I really wouldnt like to see that happen to you, thats why I was a bit of cock to you earlier, its easier not to start abusing drugs than it is to stop....trust me.
 
scream: hahah exactly, thus the extraction :\

ignatius: yeeh no worries man, i understand where you're coming from
its all too easy to get into the habit of amphetamines
i guess none of us plan to get addicted to anything, just happens...

and i feel that amphetamines are very moreish for me and i feel like i always need just a bit more
im not sure whether this is dose related, or something that is simple psychological

haha yeah, burning through my script before HSC would be insanely bad
so cheers for the heads up
got my mates looking out for me too, which does help
:)
 
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