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Heroin Explain me why did I not get withdrawal please?

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menidiatis

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I was supposed to get H yesterday 2300 but my dealer pissed on me and we didn't meet until 1100 (today morning.)

However when I got home I decided I wanted to sleep more, so I did not use H, and instead took temazepam 15mg and fell asleep till 1400. Even when I woke up then (15 hours after using) I had no symptom of any sort.

The worst symptom of WD that I had was a persistent fear that I will get WD. I was thinking of it all the time, and reading in bluelight what to do. I also had a horrible headache but that was before I didn't sleep in the night due to not taking benzos (I am chronic insomniac with broken sleep and can't sleep without a weak dose of benzo).

TLDR: why did I not get any WD after not using for 15 hours, with a 2 grams a day smoking habit for 6 months now
 
Since we can't crawl into your mind and body with a magnifying glass and look at you under good lighting we can't surmise why you didn't have WD's.

Just thank your lucky stars that you didn't . It is odd to say the least but I have heard of other people that don't suffer nearly as bad as some. You dodged a bullet, had a benzo to bridge the gap, and I hope you are always as fortunate.
 
G_Chem said:
Benzodiazepines help tremendously with withdrawal but I’ve found in the long run the rebound anxiety off them makes it all worse.

-GC
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Benzos have helped me tremendously in life.

I suffer from severe chronic anxiety and insomnia, I believe I belong to this group of people have a deficiency of natural diazepines due to genetics.

I use threshold doses of benzos (like half a 0.25mg pill of xanax or half a 1.5mg etizolam pellet) and get relieved form all my panic attacks, am able to function and enjoy a night's sleep. I have 0 tendency to abuse them and I can skip them for days without any WD even though I am using them for well over a year now. But again I think it is because I have natural diazepines deficiency (imo)
 
Pumpkin2021 said:
Since we can't crawl into your mind and body with a magnifying glass and look at you under good lighting we can't surmise why you didn't have WD's.

Just thank your lucky stars that you didn't . It is odd to say the least but I have heard of other people that don't suffer nearly as bad as some. You dodged a bullet, had a benzo to bridge the gap, and I hope you are always as fortunate.
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My question is, is this because I just don't get physical WDs yet or maybe 15 hour is not enough?

Could it be that had I waited 30 hours for example, then I could get WDs?

Or do WDs start soon after last use?

If it matters, I use through out the whole day
 
menidiatis said:
My question is, is this because I just don't get physical WDs yet or maybe 15 hour is not enough?

Could it be that had I waited 30 hours for example, then I could get WDs?

Or do WDs start soon after last use?

If it matters, I use through out the whole day
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I think most chronic heroin users start to feel WD in at least 8 hours. I hear WD's come quicker with fent. But I'm just guessing. I've never used.
 
G_Chem said:
Benzodiazepines help tremendously with withdrawal but I’ve found in the long run the rebound anxiety off them makes it all worse.

-GC
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They only help to sleep and with the RLS a bit....but overall they don't do much for wds. You still puke sweat shit like a mofo.
 
nznity said:
Depends on the dose, when I was IVing morphine, past the 16hr mark id start getting real dope sick.with fent every 4 hrs or so u hsve to shoot up.
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So 15 hours is not enough to conclude you won't get physical WD?

Another thing for me is, for how long is the WD concealable from others?
 
I think its hard to tell and really depends on the person, their genetic makeup, weight, how much and often they take, whether its heroin or mostly fent, method of intake and hydration and so on. Honestly so many factors go into in. But when they prescribe sub in some detoxes they make you wait 48hrs pst your last use of opiates until you can take suboxone so it can be assumed that at 48hours most if not all of what is in your system has been flushed out and withdrawal would start. When I was using dope daily I would say about 10-12 hours without it I would start getting sick. It was even shorter when i was shooting it. When I knew my dope was cut with fentanyl and used that daily I had to fight off withdrawals by doing some atleast every 3 hours it was crazy. There is also the mental component.. you know any opiate users fear is withdrawal and sometimes the anticipation or anxiety I had towards going into it would set it off sooner? But like someone else mentioned “dont kick a gift horse in the mouth” and I strongly agree with that. You should be extremely grateful you didnt feel any withdrawal symptoms after 15 hours. Maybe its bc you smoke it? I find smoking dope I dont really get the full effects as opposed to other methods. I would strongly advise using this opportunity to slowly wean off because trust me when I say Withdrawals are not worth it! You said you suffer from chronic anxiety… I do too experience pretty severe anxiety to the point when I went thru treatment to get off drugs they put me back on benzos( they were just like we cant let you suffer with ur anxiety) lol and that never happens. So as someone with anxiety Im telling you you do not want to experience a panic attack while going thru withdrawals it was the worst experience of my life. But ya most ppl would consider you very lucky so I wouldnt overthink it. Hope this helps!
 
i worship sticks and rocks but praise the good god, do hope you weather it well
 
Jbabe678201 said:
I think its hard to tell and really depends on the person, their genetic makeup, weight, how much and often they take, whether its heroin or mostly fent, method of intake and hydration and so on. Honestly so many factors go into in. But when they prescribe sub in some detoxes they make you wait 48hrs pst your last use of opiates until you can take suboxone so it can be assumed that at 48hours most if not all of what is in your system has been flushed out and withdrawal would start. When I was using dope daily I would say about 10-12 hours without it I would start getting sick. It was even shorter when i was shooting it. When I knew my dope was cut with fentanyl and used that daily I had to fight off withdrawals by doing some atleast every 3 hours it was crazy. There is also the mental component.. you know any opiate users fear is withdrawal and sometimes the anticipation or anxiety I had towards going into it would set it off sooner? But like someone else mentioned “dont kick a gift horse in the mouth” and I strongly agree with that. You should be extremely grateful you didnt feel any withdrawal symptoms after 15 hours. Maybe its bc you smoke it? I find smoking dope I dont really get the full effects as opposed to other methods. I would strongly advise using this opportunity to slowly wean off because trust me when I say Withdrawals are not worth it! You said you suffer from chronic anxiety… I do too experience pretty severe anxiety to the point when I went thru treatment to get off drugs they put me back on benzos( they were just like we cant let you suffer with ur anxiety) lol and that never happens. So as someone with anxiety Im telling you you do not want to experience a panic attack while going thru withdrawals it was the worst experience of my life. But ya most ppl would consider you very lucky so I wouldnt overthink it. Hope this helps!
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I am not going to perma quit anytime soon but right now I am tapering it so that in my hometown I will have to use very little to get through the day and just supplement the rest with kratom
 
there is some random variable to WDs that i never quite figured out.

when i was trying to chip, which would always succeed for max a month before i went back to a full time habit because it resulted in me basically being at least slightly ill all the time, sometimes i'd get very sick when i didn't think i'd done enough to get ill. other times i'd be expecting bad withdrawals and get off lightly. i always got withdrawals, it was just the severity and time of onset that varied. i suspect you would have had you waited longer. the longer i used for the worse it would get and the quicker they'd come on, which is to be expected given the impact of chronic opiate use on your receptors.

at 6 months, even with a heavy habit, i don't expect your rattle would be too awful. i really suggest you get help to quit sooner rather than later, because it gets harder both mentally and physically as your use gets further entrenched.
 
chinup said:
there is some random variable to WDs that i never quite figured out.

when i was trying to chip, which would always succeed for max a month before i went back to a full time habit because it resulted in me basically being at least slightly ill all the time, sometimes i'd get very sick when i didn't think i'd done enough to get ill. other times i'd be expecting bad withdrawals and get off lightly. i always got withdrawals, it was just the severity and time of onset that varied. i suspect you would have had you waited longer. the longer i used for the worse it would get and the quicker they'd come on, which is to be expected given the impact of chronic opiate use on your receptors.

at 6 months, even with a heavy habit, i don't expect your rattle would be too awful. i really suggest you get help to quit sooner rather than later, because it gets harder both mentally and physically as your use gets further entrenched.
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Thanks for the advice

I dont really plan to quit some time soon. I have too many problems that I cannot handle without heroin

I am dealing with heavy stuff in this life and am all alone, no support whatosever
Without H I ll simply collapse under the pressure
 
i felt like you.

i had very severe CPTSD and i was basically living in constant flashbacks, and only heroin helped. it helped so well that i didn't even realise i was suffering from a trauma related disorder. in rehab i had specialised therapy (EMDR and ART) and it helped so much. i still have CPTSD but it is mostly controlled by medication and avoiding known triggers. for me this is a much better long term management strategy than heroin, because having that monkey on my back made me hate myself so much.

if you follow the normal path of junkies, eventually heroin will stop working and you'll escalate and escalate until you collapse under the pressure of the addiction, and lose a lot in the process.
 
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