Timothy Leary
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I had massed 50 mg of DPT, and was planning to titrate via insufflation. I held off on my little pile of DPT to do some more reading. After a bit of reading I decided to mass out 20 mg more and keep it separate just in case I couldn't stand the burn.
I got through about 10 mg of the 50 mg pile before running around looking for cough drops to ease the pain, it was not unbearable, just very unpleasant. After the first few minutes of lozenge sucking things got a bit trippy and I got a respectable amount of visual distortion, you would diffidently notice it if you didn't know you'd been drugged, but it was pretty mild. So knowing that the molecule is very weak when taken orally compared to insufflation I just ate the other 60 mg I had measured, so 70 total, which is what erowid lists as threshold for oral consumption.
It got scary, very, VERY scary. All went fine until t + 3:30, I had come down a bit at t:+1:00 probably from the insufflated DPT wearing off. At about T+ 1:30 I started getting more effects, and they got more and more intense, after 3 hours I started to think I took a bit much, the visuals were very intense; but I anticipated coming down soon. But at T+ 3:30 I started getting a bit scared, I started to notice a bit of anxiety, but more frightening was the fact that I was having occasional moments of the very edges of the bar on the top of a light blue Firefox window having intrusions of what I thought was orange. I then started noticing every so often the black parts of my laptop would have sections of white near the corners. It got worse from there.
I started getting scared, I was going to get a serotonin antagonist, but couldn't remember if LSD and psychedelics were 5HT-2A agonists or antagonists, I would have NEVER forgotten that. Thank god I couldn't get to to the risperidone before more happened, as you will see later. I started getting delerious and got some more "true" hallucinations, not patterns but like seeing things as people for just a split second in what was really just a pile of pillows. after a while I started to get really scared and couldn't really follow a conversation at all, not because I knew no language, I just didn't recall what was said a minute ago. I got more and more delerious, I don't even remember some of it. I started having delusions I could stop it by figuring out some truth, I started to vasulate on thoughts about seeds being the start of everything, and ideas of self and stuff, it was not normal psychedelic stuff, it was what I would imagine atropine poisoning to be like. The visuals were unsettlingly cartoon-like, a bit like a cannabanoid, they were not typical of serotonin hallucinogens. More colour inversion came, but I really don't remember about 30 minutes of it. I was told I seemed like a seriously mentally impaired individual.
This state lasted roughly two hours and then wore down on its own as I gained composure again. I was still a bit "off" though. I came to the conclusion it was probably a glutamate cascade given the colour inversion. I took 60 mg of dextromethorphan to antagonize the glutamate receptors and within 15 minutes I felt completely like my old self. The next day I slept heavily and administered low doses of DXM constantly to give my glutamate system time to rest from the excitotoxicity.
I was in this state for a short period and then used an NMDA antagonist to counter the cascade, however glutamate is of course an excitotoxin. I am concerned as to the level of damage this has done, if any. I am expecialy concerned about the location of the action of the DPT, being in the higher functioning centers like the locus coeruleus and the prefrontal cortex, however glutamate cascades tend to move around being that the system is wired in everywhere and distributes through different nerve pathways. I have not noticed any problems with memory or executive funtioning. The glutamate system is the most plastic of the brain and I anticipate if there was any nerve death damage it was either repaired by the cells mechanisms given the short period of damage, (2 hours may sound like a lot but the intensity of status epilepticus makes the glutamate activity I experienced look like a K hole) or the system will work around any seriously damaged neurons.
I am wondering if the extra 20 mg I weighed may have actualy been a 50/50 mixture of 2C-E/2C-I, as I had a bag of that around, it would explain some of the increased length. Quite frankly though I have my doubts about the identity of bag of "DPT" I ordered. 10 mg initial insufflated should probably have not been quite as pronounced as it was, nor should this dose have been that long acting, or induced glutamate cascade. (even with some 2C-X's) I think ultimately this equates to "the bad childhood fever" and the delirium associated with high fevers, and I know people who have been in that delirium in fevers for like 6-12 hours. I do not anticipate damage, however I would like some input on your thoughts or experiences.
Interestingly enough the only long term thing that I have noticed is that I am much more amiable now (not that I wasn't before, I am very peaceful, its just I have two particular people who really get on my nerves) and I am generally more patient, I thought about this independently but passed it off as placebo, however I gave it more thought after two people noticed the change. I have also observed that I am not quite as chronically depressed. These are positive changes, but it is concerning as it means something changed. Of course this could all be from me being glad to not have died.
PS- I am disposing of my DPT, I advise you to be very careful if you have any on hand and have not had any experience with your particular batch. Either way one should tread lightly.
I got through about 10 mg of the 50 mg pile before running around looking for cough drops to ease the pain, it was not unbearable, just very unpleasant. After the first few minutes of lozenge sucking things got a bit trippy and I got a respectable amount of visual distortion, you would diffidently notice it if you didn't know you'd been drugged, but it was pretty mild. So knowing that the molecule is very weak when taken orally compared to insufflation I just ate the other 60 mg I had measured, so 70 total, which is what erowid lists as threshold for oral consumption.
It got scary, very, VERY scary. All went fine until t + 3:30, I had come down a bit at t:+1:00 probably from the insufflated DPT wearing off. At about T+ 1:30 I started getting more effects, and they got more and more intense, after 3 hours I started to think I took a bit much, the visuals were very intense; but I anticipated coming down soon. But at T+ 3:30 I started getting a bit scared, I started to notice a bit of anxiety, but more frightening was the fact that I was having occasional moments of the very edges of the bar on the top of a light blue Firefox window having intrusions of what I thought was orange. I then started noticing every so often the black parts of my laptop would have sections of white near the corners. It got worse from there.
I started getting scared, I was going to get a serotonin antagonist, but couldn't remember if LSD and psychedelics were 5HT-2A agonists or antagonists, I would have NEVER forgotten that. Thank god I couldn't get to to the risperidone before more happened, as you will see later. I started getting delerious and got some more "true" hallucinations, not patterns but like seeing things as people for just a split second in what was really just a pile of pillows. after a while I started to get really scared and couldn't really follow a conversation at all, not because I knew no language, I just didn't recall what was said a minute ago. I got more and more delerious, I don't even remember some of it. I started having delusions I could stop it by figuring out some truth, I started to vasulate on thoughts about seeds being the start of everything, and ideas of self and stuff, it was not normal psychedelic stuff, it was what I would imagine atropine poisoning to be like. The visuals were unsettlingly cartoon-like, a bit like a cannabanoid, they were not typical of serotonin hallucinogens. More colour inversion came, but I really don't remember about 30 minutes of it. I was told I seemed like a seriously mentally impaired individual.
This state lasted roughly two hours and then wore down on its own as I gained composure again. I was still a bit "off" though. I came to the conclusion it was probably a glutamate cascade given the colour inversion. I took 60 mg of dextromethorphan to antagonize the glutamate receptors and within 15 minutes I felt completely like my old self. The next day I slept heavily and administered low doses of DXM constantly to give my glutamate system time to rest from the excitotoxicity.
I was in this state for a short period and then used an NMDA antagonist to counter the cascade, however glutamate is of course an excitotoxin. I am concerned as to the level of damage this has done, if any. I am expecialy concerned about the location of the action of the DPT, being in the higher functioning centers like the locus coeruleus and the prefrontal cortex, however glutamate cascades tend to move around being that the system is wired in everywhere and distributes through different nerve pathways. I have not noticed any problems with memory or executive funtioning. The glutamate system is the most plastic of the brain and I anticipate if there was any nerve death damage it was either repaired by the cells mechanisms given the short period of damage, (2 hours may sound like a lot but the intensity of status epilepticus makes the glutamate activity I experienced look like a K hole) or the system will work around any seriously damaged neurons.
I am wondering if the extra 20 mg I weighed may have actualy been a 50/50 mixture of 2C-E/2C-I, as I had a bag of that around, it would explain some of the increased length. Quite frankly though I have my doubts about the identity of bag of "DPT" I ordered. 10 mg initial insufflated should probably have not been quite as pronounced as it was, nor should this dose have been that long acting, or induced glutamate cascade. (even with some 2C-X's) I think ultimately this equates to "the bad childhood fever" and the delirium associated with high fevers, and I know people who have been in that delirium in fevers for like 6-12 hours. I do not anticipate damage, however I would like some input on your thoughts or experiences.
Interestingly enough the only long term thing that I have noticed is that I am much more amiable now (not that I wasn't before, I am very peaceful, its just I have two particular people who really get on my nerves) and I am generally more patient, I thought about this independently but passed it off as placebo, however I gave it more thought after two people noticed the change. I have also observed that I am not quite as chronically depressed. These are positive changes, but it is concerning as it means something changed. Of course this could all be from me being glad to not have died.
PS- I am disposing of my DPT, I advise you to be very careful if you have any on hand and have not had any experience with your particular batch. Either way one should tread lightly.
