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Well heres a little background information about me.

Im 19, and for around 2 years now ive been using MDMA to go out raving, to festivals etc etc. Love drum and bass ;)

Currently im using MD around once a week every saturday to go to this amazing club we have here.

I just wanted to know a few things because recently i havnt been feeling the same effects, quite weird actually.

My dealer is my best friend in real life, and i know his molly is absolutely fine, same ive used for ages.

I just want to know a few things to make sure i have the best time!

#1 - Full stomach or empty stomach? Seen mixed replies to this just want to know whats better from experience.
#2 - I will go through around 1/2 a gram over a 4 hour period. Whats better, to wrap the mandy into bombs or to just dabble bits from a bag?
#3 - THE LATHARGIC COME UP ( NIGHTMARE! ) Nothing worse than wanted to dance but all your body wants to do is sit down! Any tips to avoid this?
#4 - Does sugar intake during the day affect how you react?

All answers plus anymore information you can think of thatl help me have an amazing time would be much appreciated!=D
 
1.Empty stomach always. I'd also advise you try some stomach acid neutralisers like TUMS or anything for heartburn. People say that this boosts things by 50% e.g.1 pill = 1.5pills. Only one user on BL said that so try it yourself.

2.1st dose seems to be the important one - guessing 120-150mg. Thereafter advice seems to be something like 50-70mg redose.

3.Amphet. I'm considering dropping just a tiny bit of amphet with MDMA just to make it zoom on the comeup a bit. I'm sure some of the pills recently I've had have a little amphet or ephedrine in them. Too much amphet is bad - anxiety, terrible comedown and it metabolizes the MDMA a lot quicker apparently.

4.I'm not sure about sugar.

Take a break. Every week is a bit tough. Back in the early 90s the UK/Euro pills were nutty strong - a combo of MDMA and MDEA, some amphet also. Tolerance wasn't an issue so much so every week was ok and re-dosing was very rare. But they did leave you absolutely flattened mentally and physically for a week.

Failing taking a break, you could try Piracetam, preload like 3200mg per day for 3-4 days before you roll. Some people say it boosts the crap out of your roll, some people say it extends duration. I'm saving my Piracetam for when I have to roll at events close together e.g.2 weeks. Apparently Piracetam makes the comedown better. Also some people say it didn't improve their roll, but most say it does. One thing is DO NOT TAKE PIRACETAM while rollin, it kills it apparently.
 
Weird because last night i had a completely empty stomach and whilst rolling i felt an enormous urge to sit down, although in a good place i wanted to be going mental. People say an empty stomach can cause this?
 
zatzap said:
Currently im using MD around once a week every saturday to go to this amazing club we have here.

... recently i havnt been feeling the same effects, quite weird actually.
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Once a week is too often. If you want to have "the best comeup ever," you need to wait three months between every roll. In fact, you should always space your rolls a couple of months apart to avoid damaging your brain's serotonin system.

Sounds like you have a silly tolerance to the stuff already. You need to stop taking 500 mg each time and limit yourself to less than 200 mg per night. If you give your brain enough time to recover that should be plenty to get you rolling. If it's not, you need to buy a test kit.
 
First - once a week is way too often! You ARE abusing MDMA. I know it's hard to stop, I was doing the same thing when I first discovered MDMA. The first summer on MDMA, I was unemployed, didn't have many responsibilities, just was clubbing every weekend on MDMA. A year and a half later and I just don't want to do MDMA that often anymore. I would first recommend you stop using it every week. Even going every other week for a little while is better than every week. Slowly decrease your usage. Get it down to once a month!

#1 - Full stomach or empty stomach? Seen mixed replies to this just want to know whats better from experience.
Eat a normal/average meal (nothing huge) about 3 hours prior. Healthy! Like a sandwich or some beans and veggies, with some fruit. Something like that. But avoid eating an hour before dropping.

#2 - I will go through around 1/2 a gram over a 4 hour period. Whats better, to wrap the mandy into bombs or to just dabble bits from a bag?
I don't really understand this. This is way too much. An average dose is 150 mg, not 500 mg.

#3 - THE LATHARGIC COME UP ( NIGHTMARE! ) Nothing worse than wanted to dance but all your body wants to do is sit down! Any tips to avoid this?
Just sit down for a little bit. You can't really avoid the comeup. I used to have terrible comeups when I was using MDMA every week. Now my comeups are uncomfortable but at least I'm not throwing up anymore. Perhaps it is because I use much less often? Not sure.

#4 - Does sugar intake during the day affect how you react?
Eating healthy will make your roll better. If you're eating sugary candies all day, that can't be good for your body. But like healthy sugar from a fruit or something is fine.
 
zatzap said:
Well heres a little background information about me.



Currently im using MD around once a week every saturday to go to this amazing club we have here.
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Way too frequent. Cut back to once every two months and you might keep the magic.

#1 - Full stomach or empty stomach? Seen mixed replies to this just want to know whats better from experience.
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I would recommend a high carb meal about 3 to 4 hours before dropping. That way you benefit from the serotonin surge from the carbs at about the same time as you are coming up.

#2 - I will go through around 1/2 a gram over a 4 hour period. Whats better, to wrap the mandy into bombs or to just dabble bits from a bag?
#3 - THE LATHARGIC COME UP ( NIGHTMARE! ) Nothing worse than wanted to dance but all your body wants to do is sit down! Any tips to avoid this?
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You are taking too much. Take less and you will feel more energetic.


#4 - Does sugar intake during the day affect how you react?
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Really this is the same question as #1
Sugar burns quickly though. You are better off eating pasta or similar high carb meal earlier on.
 
Stoping dosing once a week and your comeups will be a lot better. Once a month should be your maximum.

Its not worth it man.
 
Darksidesam said:
If your dealer was really that much of a 'best friend' he wouldn't let you keep taking mdma weekly.
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You VASTLY overestimate how much people know about proper MDMA usage. Bluelighters are far from your typical users. Most drug users have no idea what they are actually putting in their bodies, let alone what the substance does to them. The funny thing I've found is that dealers are, in my experience, the more uneducated, and misinformed members of the drug world lol.
 
stop dosing weekly - 3 month break is recommended.

Stomach content doesn't matter if you skip the stomach. I have blood sugar issues, so I always eat just before a roll, then plug it rectally. This also increases efficiency.

again, stop dosing weekly.
 
If I take a break from all drugs and dance for 30 minutes while I'm coming up, I have "one of those good feelings" like that one Avicii song. Otherwise if I'm focused on the fact I just took MDMA, it makes me nervous.

Mindset IMO.
All the tips in the world can't change a bad mood that can spoil a roll.

1) Your stomach content is either going to prolong the duration of MDMA or intensify the experience to my best knowledge. If intensity were all there is to MDMA, then people would IV ecstasy instead. But that's not too common is it?

2) Gel caps or wrap it. You want it to release as slowly as possible if you want my opinion.

3) That's most likely anxiety.

4) Yes. Your body's ability to manage blood sugar and your body's tolerance to blood sugar greatly impact the experience of a roll. As far as I know, it's best to keep your food intake relatively level during use (Goes with any stimulant). You could try eating a banana or sipping on orange juice after the chemical has begun to wear off. I am not yet at the level where I can name off why insulin and blood sugar levels effect MDMA fact by fact, but a lot of the "come down" or crash is largely blood sugar related.

I've found the people who give the advice "You roll harder without food" are the same ones that have the worst come downs. If you want to roll hard, just stick it up your butt.
 
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I'd also recommend to take a brake from using mdma for some time, it really pays off. and for the come up: Just enjoy the waves hitting your body, if you need to sit down, sit down and enjoy once you are up to it you can go and dance, i dont see the problem here. And maybe you could try to have the coming up happening at home with some friends in your usual enviroment so you can go to which party you ever want and allready be done with the as you describe it "THE LATHARGIC COME UP ( NIGHTMARE! )" . I personally enjoy the coming up of mdma :) like hot waves of energy where flowing all throughout my entire body :)
 
zatzap said:
My dealer is my best friend in real life, and i know his molly is absolutely fine, same ive used for ages.
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test kit or it didn't happen. but for real a lot of these dealers with "MDMA" are actually just the blind leading the blind.

this is besides the point though if you want a good come up you need to take a break thats longer than a week my dude, that'll fry your brain. taking an extended break will be really the only thing thats gonna give you what your looking for imo
 
Hi!
I would also suggest you take a break from rolling. Sucks that rolling is so much fun but takes such a toll on the body and mind, huh?
I used to experience the lethargic come up back in the day (like June, so actually not that long ago) when I was rolling multiple times a week.
I'm not really sure about anything else you asked about but I'd just suggest cutting back a bit. Events are still hella fun without molly.

Oh, and in response to those who said that a true "best friend" wouldn't let you roll every weekend, that's simply not true. I've had dealer boyfriends and dealers as friends in the past which definitely contributed to my overuse of ecstasy. They never pressured me into rolling or did anything that would put me in immediate danger. I rolled alot while in the company of these people because I could. It was easy to get and in many cases free. It's pretty much just like having a weed dealer friend/boyfriend. Ease of access and the want to.

Just my 2 cents :)
 
man,
if you continue doing the habitual 1 per week roll, you are going to start feeling the unpleasant feelings from Mdma.(secondary effects)
Listen to everybody here because most of us had already been exactly where you are now, Young (19), full of love and energy enjoying way too much this beautiful substance.

There will come a day when you understand how to use it and enjoy it without abusing, but like everyone here I guess you will have to hit the wall first realize and learn it by yourself.

Keep safe Life is short and everything we do has consequences

cheers
 
comin from some1 with moar experience than ur average newb i would say the key is just to roll hard or ur gonna hardly roll.

I have eatin a many good bean pokeball, mint, OG dolpfin, and even the notorius purple glocks of 07. I think i qualifried to know so before u say that "he doesnt know and then this and then that" please just make sur u aint rollin without havin a good prober roll before u start eatin beans all night.
 
The funny thing I've found is that dealers are, in my experience, the more uneducated, and misinformed members of the drug world lol.
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That's because its all about ££££$$$$$££££ to them.
 
MasterSplinter said:
comin from some1 with moar experience than ur average newb i would say the key is just to roll hard or ur gonna hardly roll.

I have eatin a many good bean pokeball, mint, OG dolpfin, and even the notorius purple glocks of 07. I think i qualifried to know so before u say that "he doesnt know and then this and then that" please just make sur u aint rollin without havin a good prober roll before u start eatin beans all night.
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Wait, what? Lol what does this even mean?
 
zatzap said:
Well heres a little background information about me.

Im 19, and for around 2 years now ive been using MDMA to go out raving, to festivals etc etc. Love drum and bass ;)

Currently im using MD around once a week every saturday to go to this amazing club we have here.

I just wanted to know a few things because recently i havnt been feeling the same effects, quite weird actually.

My dealer is my best friend in real life, and i know his molly is absolutely fine, same ive used for ages.

I just want to know a few things to make sure i have the best time!

#1 - Full stomach or empty stomach? Seen mixed replies to this just want to know whats better from experience.
#2 - I will go through around 1/2 a gram over a 4 hour period. Whats better, to wrap the mandy into bombs or to just dabble bits from a bag?
#3 - THE LATHARGIC COME UP ( NIGHTMARE! ) Nothing worse than wanted to dance but all your body wants to do is sit down! Any tips to avoid this?
#4 - Does sugar intake during the day affect how you react?

All answers plus anymore information you can think of thatl help me have an amazing time would be much appreciated!=D
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First off, you are using MDMA far too often, and if you enjoy it that much then you need to start taking proper breaks. The magic will not last and you're going to turn your brain into a wet mushy cake. This is why you aren't have intense rolls, because you're serotonin isn't getting sufficient time to recover.

My motto is "if I've forgotten what it feels like, it's probably time",

1) I wouldn't eat at least 3 hours before getting on it, but you should have a large breakfast in the morning for example. Eating prolongs on the comeup, I went for a steak dinner with my family before my last rave and it took me about 2 hours to come up properly.

2) You're taking too much MDMA. Reduce your MDMA intake. I personally take a ~125mg bomb and a 25-50mg line to reduce the "come-up" feeling, it eases you in. I never dab because the taste is horrific.

3) See above advice, on onset of putting it up your hooter is less than bombing it. So start feeling good quicker and have a big hitter coming up half an hour later.

4) I don't know, but I have a high sugar diet because I'm an unhealthy cunt, and I'm always the biggest mess when me and my mates get on it.
 
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