This may be sent to add but I'm not quite sure it belongs there. Anyway, the other day I was on 6mg clonazepam and 30mg valium, got pissed off so I decided to exercise I walked 5 miles in an hour on a treadmill with my eyes closed, just peaceful the entire time. Once done I went to lay down and started nodding, I know of the runner's high, but with my tolerance(at least 120mg oxy with benzos to nod) that would mean my body is producing relatively large amounts of endorphins. My question is is there a limit to the amount my body can produce and how is it possible for my body to have basically got me higher than I get when shooting oxy. I hadn't taken any opiates in the week prior nor had I done any fat-soluble opiods like fent that would have been released in a good cardio session. Thanks in advance
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exercising on benzos inducing nodding no opiates
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doppelganga196
Bluelighter
Good question man. I have oft wondered if a good cardio & weights session can boost endorphins as a sort of 'preload' before actually dosing an opiate... Obviously endorphins would be boosted but does that mean your brain/body can make more of an opiate because of it?
Jabberwocky
Frumious Bandersnatch
are you sure you didn't just fall asleep being fatigued from the walking and the dose of benzos you took before?
there's a lot of factors you're leaving out which may be part cause.
monstanoodle
Bluelight Crew
I guess it's possible that it was your Endorphin's doing, but it could also be that you took a fuck load of Benzos and the exercise sped up absorption / metabolism?
Maybe it's a good idea to ask this to be shifted to ADD for info about the amount that can be produced and how much of an effect it will have
I wasn't tired and didn't fall asleep, stayed up for about 14 hours after this and it only lasted about 3 hours but it wasn't controlable. I had taken the benzos probably 4 hours prior so they were absorbed already. Its up to a mod for the add move, if it moves into neurochemistry I think it may be necessary
Edit: I didn't fall asleep, it was nodding, the dream-like state of semiconsciousness while cotiinuously waking up briefly with itching, and pure euphoria. When I exercise normally if I lay down I fall asleep, period...
LysergicEpiphany
Bluelighter
Maybe a bit knackered ?
QuasiStoned
Bluelighter
Well, I can't speak for anyone else but benzos made me sort of nod. Sometimes they flat knocked me out but a lot of times I would exhibit nod like symptoms where my head would droop and I'd pick it back up a minute later.
If you have a tolerance as high as 120mg of oxy, I would be sort of shocked that your endorphins could have such a profound effect on you. I know that when I was in withdrawal and worked really hard, the release of endorphins felt pathetic and very brief.
Jabberwocky
Frumious Bandersnatch
ill send this over to ADD by request.
monstanoodle
Bluelight Crew
I read speculation that it was to do with Endocannabinoids (the runners high that is).
Is this surprising?
Endogenous ligands usually have epicly high binding affinities. The test would only be valid if there was pretreatment with an irreversible opoid antagonist, or _maybe_ treatment with a super-strong opioid antagonist like diprenorphine.
That may be the trend, but apropos to this topic, naloxone has a higher affinity for the MOR than beta-endorphin does.I dont do oxy much at all just have in the past and tolerance won't go down, it was just extremely surprising and I remember nodding with xanax and it felt almost the exact same way. I've also experienced the nod-like symptoms of benzo over-use shall I say and it was not that.
It happened again last night, went for a good, long walk on klonopin alone this time(10mg) and came back and nodded for a couple hours, nicotine even enhanced it just like with opiates, it just doesn't seem plausible with my tolerance
Phener
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Nicotine has always has a ODD reaction to benzos for me, I have read about it's effects on metabolism etc but it definately can add a kick of SEDATION to a benzo for some reason.
LysergicEpiphany
Bluelighter
Psychosis ?
I have never really been into Opioids, I always thought i'd be that kid that smoked Heroin once and got addicted, I love downers so i thought it not worth the risk. Once I took 9 valiums and insufflated 2gs of K over the course of the night, I ended up on my friends couch after A fat beaut, I was in this 'Nod'-like state you speak of. It was definately very blissfull until I felt the urge to use the toilet, I somehow made it onto my feet and out into my friend R's hall, it was here that I literally folded in half and fell onto my hands. I threw up a clear liquid with a large amount of white powder in it [take it i swallowed some of the K by accident, Woops!], I hadnt eaten much prior so that is most probably the only reason I didnt spew my guts, everthing was spinning like when ive drunk too much
Peace.
PS; I stopped recreationally abusing benzos after turning on all of my friends and kicking them out of my house, I punched one of them and said he had stolen my Cannabis, which I've now been informed I had smoked with him Prior to all of this. I also had a fight with my girlfriends dad, tried putting A petrol pump through another friends car window, broke my foot, and of course spent the night in a cell One bad weekend spent awake on downers ? :S it was like the vallies put to sleep the part of my brain which inhibited sleep, most dire state ive ever been in TBH, literally brung my darkside out of hiding