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excessive sleepiness

Hey, laCster, I am worried that you might have taken my suggestion to get at what was underlying the depression as me being flip or dismissive. I certainly didn't mean to oversimplify depression or to suggest it has a "cause" even; I don't think it has to by any means. When I was a kid, I was really sad. It had no known cause. I had a happy, supportive family; I was well liked and successful in school, and it wasn't a self esteem problem. I was just sad. My mom, for whom this was unfathomable, tried sending me to a psychologist but that went nowhere because he, like everyone else, expected there to be a cause. Finally, I remember I just made something up to give them all the answer they needed. All that did for me was to make me hide my sadness.

I guess what I meant was a much more amorphous and general kind of awareness of what could be underlying your numbness and depression. I'm having a hard time articulating this.:\ Let me try: for me, my emotional life changed dramatically a few years after college. I think that I finally accepted all that sadness as just one of many states I could feel and started paying attention to what really made me happy. I realized that I was going to have to live outside of many norms that my family and my background implicitly suggested I follow. I started finding people that offered the "real-ness" I was craving. Sometimes I think depression is a bone-deep fear of doing something uncertain or unknown in the whole paradigm we get handed at birth by our culture. I have NO idea if any of this is making any sense LOL. Rather than say any more i will just say, "I know it isn't simple".;)
 
I can definitely sympathize with the OP. I have mild depression, which used to be worse, and excessive sleeping has become a way to escape life for me. Especially when I'm in a particularly depressing situation or environment I consciously use sleep as an escape. I'm taking university classes now, which requires me to get up at 6:30am, and having that schedule has really helped my sleeping habits. When you have some structure in your life it will reinforce better sleeping habits, at least for me. I only really oversleep when I have a totally free day.

Perhaps, before university starts, you could do something as simple as setting an alarm and then do an early morning exercise routine, which will really wake you up in the morning.
 
herbavore said:
Hey, laCster, I am worried that you might have taken my suggestion to get at what was underlying the depression as me being flip or dismissive. I certainly didn't mean to oversimplify depression or to suggest it has a "cause" even; I don't think it has to by any means. When I was a kid, I was really sad. It had no known cause. I had a happy, supportive family; I was well liked and successful in school, and it wasn't a self esteem problem. I was just sad. My mom, for whom this was unfathomable, tried sending me to a psychologist but that went nowhere because he, like everyone else, expected there to be a cause. Finally, I remember I just made something up to give them all the answer they needed. All that did for me was to make me hide my sadness.

I guess what I meant was a much more amorphous and general kind of awareness of what could be underlying your numbness and depression. I'm having a hard time articulating this.:\ Let me try: for me, my emotional life changed dramatically a few years after college. I think that I finally accepted all that sadness as just one of many states I could feel and started paying attention to what really made me happy. I realized that I was going to have to live outside of many norms that my family and my background implicitly suggested I follow. I started finding people that offered the "real-ness" I was craving. Sometimes I think depression is a bone-deep fear of doing something uncertain or unknown in the whole paradigm we get handed at birth by our culture. I have NO idea if any of this is making any sense LOL. Rather than say any more i will just say, "I know it isn't simple".;)
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haha not at all! do not worry, that thought didn't even come to mind! i really do appreciate you helping me, you posts have some great content and advice. i can really relate to your story and it gives me hope that you overcame your adversities! lately, i haven't been sleeping as much as usual; i have been cutting back to only 9-10hrs a sleep a night which isn't too bad. i have been feeling pretty good these past weeks :)

i got off wellbutrin though, that shit made me feel weird. the same side-effects of amphetamines without the euphoria, what's the point of that?

i got switched to lyrica instead of gabapentin, and that definitely helped me with depression in the past. was one of the best months of my life, then my insurance stopped covering it, lame. but now it is! great success hahaa
 
;)I can identify with some of the things you are going through. I had one sleep study, and am going for the second to rule out narcolepsy.Sometimes, and often, things look, and seem to be the worst, right before they get to be better. Saying this does help me, too. Good luck, and you can do it.
 
Also, I have taken concerta, provigil for daytime sleepiness, sometimes they seem to help, and others, it seems to be the opposite, does anyone else know or understand anything about EDS, excess daytime sleepiness, or fatigue, or any thing that works, I also seem to have heard, or read that loratidine helps with that, aswell. I have creativity, but it is on hold at times, because of the daytime fatigue. Any help will be appreciated. Thanks, Peace
 
sleep is a typical sympton of depression, i remember when i was locked up i could sleep for days if the guards didn't interrupt me.
 
i just got prescribed lyrica! hopefully it help me get a better nights's sleep and alleviate other depression symptoms
 
thanks hebavore! i almost went back out on friday after getting into it with my insurance co, i ended up getting it covered anyways its all good :)

i am a little worried about going back to school and not being able to wake up on time :/
 
I'm bored as fuck.. and really fucked up, so I am absolutely creeping your threads because... well ya just read the last few sentences.

I'm not an expert on much but I have devoted a lot of time to studying sleep patterns. It sounds like you're not reaching REM sleep enough or at all for that matter. I had the same problem so I did a sleep study. They told me that lucid dreams generally only occur in stage 1 and 2 of sleep, when your brain is still at least semi-conscious. I was told REM sleep is primarily subconscious so you don't remember most of what happens while in REM. In my case, I was always in the first 2 stages if sleep so I remembered almost everything yet never really got the solid, deep sleep I needed so I was constantly sleeping 16+ hours a day. Then again I have been addicted to oxy for a couple years so maybe my mind figures if I go subconscious I will just stop breathing.

Who knows.
 
I also was sleeping over 12-14 hours something that helped was supplements dont know if they will help you but maybe its worth a try?

high grade fish oil (EPA 360MG-DHA 240MG)
high grad b complex
high grade magnesium (150MG mag citrate)
 
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