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Fuck yo Honda

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Ok we have proof people evolve...It was only about 400 years ago when the average male height was 5'6 and the average weight was 150. today the average male height is 5'9 and average male weight is....well ok fast food played a part in fucking this part up but for fit people its 190.My point is we have evidence that people evolve animals too. So Evolution is an obvious thing.

In recent years alot of the bibles "prophecies" have been under serious scrutiny and alot of believers belive that the end of days is coming so with beliefs seeing so much benifitiary evidence how do feel? Feel free to go a lil off topic this isnt only about height/weight and prophecies those r just my examples
 
basix said:
how is average height or weight evidence of evolution?
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Agreed. It's evidence of better nutrition and more sanitary conditions resulting in less stress on the immune system... both allowing the body to divert resources to healthy growth. That would be my guess, at least.

As for religion? To me, belief in a god is akin to bestowing anthropomorphic qualities to a sock puppet and then talking to it. I'm sure prayer and ritual practice can be a healthy excercise for the human spirit, but it's still a monologue with a sock puppet.
 
Fuck yo Honda said:
So Evolution is an obvious thing.
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perhaps to you but, to many, it's not obvious at all. indeed, it opposes their faith-based belief so they'll never believe it even if you can prove it.

if you think you're going to convince people who don't believe in evolution with facts and proof, you're wasting your time. you can't convince somebody rationally if they didn't arrive at their position rationally.

alasdair
 
i went to a baptist seminar about this topic. basicaly the guy was a baptist scientist studying evolution. and used many things for comparrison between macro and micro evolution. basically saying yes evolution exists and is valid just not the whole evolution change just the small jumps like tadpoles to frogs catterpillar to butterfly but went a little deeper.
 
oneluckysperm said:
As for religion? To me, belief in a god is akin to bestowing anthropomorphic qualities to a sock puppet and then talking to it. I'm sure prayer and ritual practice can be a healthy excercise for the human spirit, but it's still a monologue with a sock puppet.
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Bash on belief in a higher power all you want, but I feel that atheists such as yourself are just as ridiculous as the Christians you are balking at right now.
 
true enough making fun of god is futile but evolution to me seems one of those obvious things is easily seen in humans and especially creatures directly surrounding humans since we disrupt natural evolution it is easy to see direct change in beings with significantly shorter life spans. but why again should science and religion be seperate categories besides that one is based on mostly superstition.
 
evolution and religion arent mutually exclusive. evolution and natural selection show how YHWH created us. there are more than a few ordained ministers that are also biological scientists and evolutionists who are trying to get out that message.

in general, science should supplement religion. if you want to take a religious view for science, consider that Adam DID eat from the tree of knowledge; who says he learned everything there is to know instantly? perhaps the "knowledge" from the fruit was passed down along with Adam's seed, and the "tree" (knowledge) is just now beginning to mature... (yes i know its the "tree of knowledge of good and evil" but how do you know thats not a mistranslation? or perhaps its an unintended consequence, since we were allegedly made in the image of YHWH...)

creationists are a big sack of crazy. "creation science" is the most hilarious thing evar, because even the bible itself says that the earth is more than 6000 years old: 'A day for the Lord is like a thousand years for Man' (somewhere in Psalms, and also in the book of Jubilees i believe). thus, the "7 days" it took to create the heavens and the earth are 7000 years for man, plus the "6000" that man has been around since Adam...
 
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to add on to what tathra said, religion and science arest mutually exclusive either, they addres two different aspects of reality.
that being said, its a terrible idea to try to use religion in lieu of science or to make science take the role of religion in a society. Both are necessary, and the current trend of some atheists to use science to debunk religion really is quite futile and gets nowhere.
Im personally a catholic and i completely and fullheartedly believe in evolution and just about every other scientific discovery. They dont interfere with my religious beliefs at all.

Creationists and Dawkinsite atheists, the two ends of the science vs religion spectrum, are both seriously flawed. Neither one is right because they both work off of the presupposition that science and religion somehow conflict.
 
HouseFever said:
The Bible is a book. So is lord of the rings, and I don't believe that lord of the rings is true, so why would anybody think that of the bible?
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Your comparing the "Bible" to the "Lord of the rings" I dont even have to defend this one.

Jesus is Lord over your life weather you like it or not. One day you will know the truth, hopefully it wont be too late.

DJ Grace
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Better yet why wouldnt God want the trinity?

Wouldnt you get bored out there in erernity all by yourself?
 
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