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Everything I want to know about Morphine !?!?

kapheen'

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Just some questions I have on reguards to Morphine !!
1st. How much is to much orally ?, For someone with basicly no tolerence, So far I have takin no more then 60mg's, It does me ok but nothing great, I just wanna get the max out of these and still be safe.
2nd. After a dose I can never seem to get to sleep, Even after I took 4 tylenol PM's, Maybe trying something else would help, It just seems no matter how tired I am my brain just wont kick over to sleep mode, Any solutions for this ?
3rd. Whats the value of these things ?, I have MS-IR 30's, Street cost that is. I wish someone would take these things off my hands and gimme some OXY !
4th. How long after my inital does would it be good to take a 2nd dose without losing any effects ?. I took one and a half and another half about a hour later and it didnt seem to get any stronger compared to other times when I have only taked one and a half.
5th. Anyone have any idea how long morphine takes to be clear out of your system ?, I have a friend interested in taking some but he has a drug test sometime next week.
6th. Why is Oxycodone SOO much better than morphine ?, I slept fine with my oxy's, I never woke up the next day with a head ake and feeling sick, Any remedy for this ?. And most important I dont get shit for euphoria from morphine, I just feel more fucked up.
7th. I'm planning on rolling sometime soon, And I get mixed stories about mixing opiates with e, How safe is this ?, Some say its all good and there is no problems. And others say dont do it, Its a bad idea.
Ok thats it, I appreciate any insite anyone can give me, Thanks alot.
[ 04 April 2002: Message edited by: kapheen' ]
 
I will try to answer some of your questions:
1:I don't know, you could probably find this information at www.erowid.org . If you mean too much as in how much to overdose, look around for the 'LD50', which is the lethal dose for %50 of test subjects(rats, maybe?). As for a suggested recretional dose, that will be on erowid also. Mine is about 120mg, or 4 of those pills. If you are into insufflation, try snorting 2(60mg) of them.
2:The only solution is to take the morphine earlier. Try taking it at least 8 hours before you plan on sleeping.
3:The street price of pharmaceuticals varies more than the street price of street drugs, depending on your location, supply/demand, etc. Personally, I would pay no more than $10 for one if I was (very)desperate, as I would have to eat 3-4 of them for a good buzz.
4:I like to wait a week between doses, your tolerance to morphine will build pretty fast if you are using on a regular basis. As for same-session doses, I have found that 1/2 the original dose while peaking(maybe 3 hours after ingestion)kicks it up a notch. But I would suggest saving it for another time.
5:Again, www.erowid.org will have the information you need. I think morphine is 4-5 days. Don't hold me to it though, go check Erowid.
6:Because oxycodone is just better than morphine, there isn't really any reason. Ok, I am sure there is some kind of chemical/biological reason why it is better, but recretionally, morphine just isn't as good as oxycodone(this is a matter of opinion, though).
7:Check out www.erowid.org for information on this, I have never been interested in doing it so I can't tell you from experience. I have seen one or two trip reports on Erowid concerning the use of heroin while rolling and, as I recall, the reports gave a thumbs up on the combo. I would rather do each one seperatly, though.
 
Originally posted by ketamatic:
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6:Because oxycodone is just better than morphine, there isn't really any reason. Ok, I am sure there is some kind of chemical/biological reason why it is better, but recretionally, morphine just isn't as good as oxycodone(this is a matter of opinion, though).
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I think that it has something to do with the bioavailability of oxy as opposed to morphine. Something like 80% of morphine gets metabolized in the first pass through your system, where as the amount of oxy metabolized is much less. Also, oxy is more potent, and I think may pass through the blood-brain barrier easier than morphine. But, don't quote me on it.
 
7. Rolling and Opiates. This is my favorite drug combo, allthough i cannot say how safe it is because i dont know. I took a few rolls then waited till i felt the roll coming on and snorted an oc40 and the feeling was incredable.
 
ahh...downers and e. mmm yum. personally i don't like to mix a lot of morphine with my e, i like k better...
 
Just another question to add to my list, Two nights ago I drank two tripple expresso shot caffe mocha's. About one hour later I took two of my MS-IR 30's and didnt get any effect what so ever, Just couldnt sleep very well. I dont have much of a tolerence so I know that wasnt a factor. But does that make sence ? Could alot of caffeine kill the effects of the morphine ?
Any comments appreciated, Thanks alot.
 
>Two nights ago I drank two tripple expresso shot caffe mocha's. About one hour later I took two of my MS-IR 30's and didnt get any effect what so ever<
I can't tell you from experience because I don't consume caffeine. But, whenever I try to 'enhance' my narcotics with alcohol, the stimulant effect produced from the (low) dose of alcohol destroys any narcotic buzz I might have. I have to drink at least 3-4 drinks before the buzz will come back, which is usually more than I can tolerate(I hate alcohol) so I like taking my narcotics by themselves.
Then again, coke + heroin is a common practice, but heroin is a lot more powerful than morphine.
 
I think that it has something to do with the bioavailability of oxy as opposed to morphine. Something like 80% of morphine gets metabolized in the first pass through your system, where as the amount of oxy metabolized is much less. Also, oxy is more potent, and I think may pass through the blood-brain barrier easier than morphine. But, don't quote me on it.
Oxycodone gets metabolized into oxymorphone, which is better than morphine and it's metabolites in terms of producing euphoric and pleasurable feelings.
 
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