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everyone is bisexual

everythinginside said:

Greece was actually pretty open sexually. Many men of war would openly engage in sexual acts with one another... and still go home to their wives and children. My guess is it created bonding among the ranks-
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It wasn't just "men of war". Openess to pleasure and sexuality was approached in a completely different fashion than it is today.

You don't really need to have guesses about stuff like this :) There is a massive amount of information out there about sexuality in the classical era.
 
dont know about the bi theory I have never realy had that thing for men that i get for women and i cant see it changing
 
djfriendly said:
Everyone is bisexual - Common wisdom

No one is bisexual - Common wisdom
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As above is below. Good point. Hit the bull's eye on that one.

And, L.O. FUCKING L! I didn't expect this thread to pick up much at all. I just randomly threw that one out for you to ponder about nothing, and try to confuse you, and off kilter your current sense of sexual security or insecurity.;) :p

Personally, i dont fantasize about having any form of sexual intercourse with men, and women that are twice my age can give me a raging hard on...and no i would never fuck a girl under 16. But yes i've pondered the thought of sexual intercouse with another man, got a little aroused, but felt REALLY weird and unatural to me...Bottom of the line is, I didn't even like the idea of it once i started thinking about it more.

I started this thread because i had a dream the other night, like weeks ago, and randomly in the dream, there were the Atticus, from the Movie, To Kill A Mocking Bird (that's the father, right?), and some famous writer that i have no idea who he was, but it was some really grand and lucid adventure type of dream....and these two fellows were the most assertive, and stronge members of the small clan of both guys and girls, that helped us survive numerous ordeals. They even came acrossed as the most 1950's middle class america typical strait man, if you know what i mean. Then when the adventure ended, everyone went their own way...me and this girl i dated in middle school (but a now grown up form of her, went off to some beach)...then randomly the "camera of my dreams" shifted over to the 2 aformentioned guys, Atticus was smoking some tobacco out of a pipe while reading the last line from a book by the writer, then looked back at him, and all of a sudden they were naken, then the writer slowly mounted Atticus, then right as they got into it I woke up and started laughing....Sometimes the "hardest" badest motherfuckers, are the biggest fucking flamers.

No offense intended. By the way, i just got out of inpatient rehab from a mental hospital today, which is why i havent been around. There were some REALLY fucked up people in there, but some REALLY cool people too. Some of the coolest people i've ever met...whether that be fellow dope head guitar musicians, father figure type people, beautiful women, almost twice my age suffering from mental health due to divorce issues, childhood shit, alcoholism, etc; which gave me the biggest hard on's...I generally like older women( and dont get all Freudian on my ass, that cokehead is just a delusional cokehead in my books, but he does have some great points. I like older women because they've experienced more life and know what it's really about, aren't some naive little girl that likes to play head games, or is always going around this way and that, etc...plus they have lots of sexualy experience, which makes the sex more interesting to me...they dont have to be 20 years older than me...even just like 3-4 years older...wutever...could still be my same age..just havent found "the one" but there was a few girls my age that i really hit it off with...all of us are staying in contact. We're like a huge family now, and most of us are continuing the outpatient program, and are gonna do SOBER stuff outside out that. Oh yeah, there was a man in there who looked like a women, has breast implants, and is getting the "final" operation done to change sexes, BUT is attracted to women. Lol, a transvestite strait dude. That's a new one to me! And let me tell you, regardless of this...he/she was a cool mother fucker...lot's of life experience...lived through the 50's, 60's, 70's. Lived through the pot/LSD hallucinogenics scene, the coke scene, the start of the crystal scene...which was actually WAY better for people that like crystal, than it is today.

Just be who you want to be. If someone is holding you back in life, perhaps you're not being who you really ARE. I've been "confused" about myself before, but i know who i am...and currently have a very supportive girlfriend who visited me in rehab everyday...but she isn't "the one". The day i find her, will be the day i get to start living.

Peace to everyone. Peace to all.
 
I think we need to separate "biological sexual desire" from "desire for sexual pleasure." They are not quite the same.

We are all able to experience sexual pleasure from being touched by either gender. Any man can be given an orgasm by another man, ditto for women on women. Any man or woman who is horny, and who is not constrained by cultural hang ups, would therefore be willing to engage in homosexual acts for the sheer physical pleasure of it in appropriate circumstances. But it does not follow from this that all people are inherently bisexual. See, you can be heterosexual and still recognize and occassionally enjoy the pleasure a plastic battery powered sex toy can give, but that does not mean you have a sexual desire for plastic and batteries. Similarly, you can be heterosexual and still recognize and occassionally enjoy the pleasure a same sex partner can give, and that does not mean you sexually desire same sex partners.

So just because a man may intellectual recognize that being with another man, or a swedish penis pump, could feel really good and get him off, and so he participates in that sexual act, does not mean he has a biological drive to be with another man, any more than he has some biological drive to be with a swedish penis pump.

For me, and I think many men, sexual intimacy with a woman is on a totally different level than any form of sexual gratification that does not involve a woman. It is like something above and beyond sexual gratification is taking place. I could go my whole life happily never fucking a man or a plastic doll or a swedish penis pump or a vibrating artificial vagina. However, I would seriously question whether my life was even worth living if I could never fuck another woman. Because deep inside is a biological sexual desire for a woman, or all women.

In world with fewer sexual hang ups, more homosexual sex would take place, but that does not mean there would be more homosexuals in the world, or more bisexuals. Rather, homosexual acts between heterosexual men would be akin to masturbation. Something you do for fun when no woman is around.

So while I think there are bisexuals, I don't think everyone is bisexual.

As for michael's comment, that "i don't think you can control who you fall in love with..." this seems to imply that love must lead to sexual desire. But family members and platonic friends can love without lust. So I don't understand this statement. It seems to imply that some straight macho trucker in a dive bar may start talking pro wrestling with the mechanic on the next stool and realize they have so much in common, he is willing to spend the rest of his life fucking this big fat hairy mechanic instead of the hot women he's been fantasizing about his whole life? Sorry, I don't buy it. Maybe these two men grow to love each other and become platonic best friends, but between two beings, sometimes romantic love and lust are just not part of the equation and never will be.

~psychoblast~
 
Originally posted by chrissie
I've heard theories that there is a scale from 1-10 for your sexuality. 1 being totally heterosexual and 10 being totally homosexual and that most people are somewhere in between. The idea is that if you can see someone of the same sex as being attractive, even though you yourself are not fully attracted to them, then you are slightly bisexual because you can see the attractiveness of that person. Make sense?

you can also see someone of the same sex as being attractive ,even though you are NOT in the slightest way attracted to them. doesnt make any sense to me ... just because you can **SEE** attractiveness in a person doesnt necessarily mean u are attracted to them .
 
I might be a little...

I kinda feel myself slightly attracted to this guy
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and this guy
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yea i think were all to an extent bisexual-not by hooking up with both sexes- but falling in love with both sexes and have sexual or emotional attractions to the same sex, even if u are straight- like for guys and girls- have u ever been jealous when ur same sex friend gets a girl/boyfriend- not jealous of them cuz u like their mate, but jealous of their gf/bf because they are spending more time with ur friend??
 
Welcome back DexterMeth.

If I had to classify myself, it would be hetero because I tend to be with men. I dislike sexual classification.

I have always looked at women and wondered what it would be like to be with them rather than be them. I have never been confused about what I like and what I need.
 
was thinking and discussing this with friends.....

......so I was thinking .... when I was younger, say 15-19 I fell in love with a couple of people that I never became intimate with. Would the meaning bisexual pertain to intimacy, (relations such as sex, foreplay, ect) only? How about if it were only intimate and deep thoughts, but never evolved into more? Would that classify a person mentally bisexual? I hate catagorizing but, it's a curiosity. Wondering if you can really be bisexual without having ever been with someone of the same gender ...or perhaps no one at all ...yet still being attracted and unbiased towards them ...based on love and not the ability to fuck them.

Bodies didn't have genders when I wasn't knowledgable enough to know what sex was really about. I only recognized later in life that I was in love...that there was a deep attraction for someone, but I didn't know that because they were a man or a woman. Surely I wasn't the only one who adored members of both sexes without preoccupying thoughts of sexual acts. Any thoughts?
 
Belisarius said:
All generalizations are false. ;)
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I wonder how many caught the implications of that. :D


Regarding the thread:

I do not think that everyone is bisexual. Biological systems just aren't like components produced on an assembly line, where each one is exactly the same as the next.

And to state that everyone is bisexual implies that those who are not are somehow denying their "bisexual heritage." Or suggests that sexual orientation is decided, and that people elect to be hetrosexual or homosexual (which is equally false).

Some people are bisexual, while others are monosexual (either straight monosexuals or gay monosexuals).

But to say that everyone is "X" implies a denial by those who do not exhibit the qualities of "X." And makes about as much sense as claiming that everyone is a racist, and that those who do not hold those views are in denial. It is an absurd statement whcih reeks of an attempt at self justification.
 
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