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i haven't been on bluelight that long but the only thing i did see i didn't like was someone asking a question about anti depressants and ecstacy. the thread was simply closed. instead of just leaving them hang like that, the mod should have said politely, "please check the FAQ on this" or somethin along that line, not just go and lock it.
other than that.... coo coo.
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Wouldn't you like to be a pepper too?
 
You won't like this one, and it won't happen because of the hassle but...
Split Other Drugs into:
Chemical Psychoactives - The discussion of manufactured recreational chemicals (Tryptamines, Phenys, etc.)
Natural Psychoactives - The discussion of naturally occuring entheogens (Cannabis, Salvia, Cactii, Shrooms, etc.)
Pharmaceuticals - The discussion of prescription and other licensed-for-sale drugs (OTC's, prescription drugs, etc.)
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About one third of Other Drugs discusses things like Alderall or Oxycontin or another one of those US licensed pharms. Pharms don't have such a major counter-culture outside US so these posts look a little weird beside posts about cactii and salvia (not an argument just an observation).
I'm not attacking pharms at all - clearly they need to be discussed but it seems that the same stuff crops up over and over. The reason for this is that old pharm questions get lost in the mix. A separate forum would sort this out.
But I realise that's a lot of hassle and it isn't going to happen (soon).
Otherwise, fine.
 
why should the OD forum only be for the hardcore drug user psionic?
i enjoy drugs other than e but i dont consider myself to be hardcore drug user
 
1. A huge fucking FAQ
2. I like the banner idea
3. Leave the stupid Q posts open. If you don't want to answer, don't. Stupid posts are like teeth,... ignore them and they go away.
4. Try to cut back on the ass-raping. People are really harsh in this forum. Don't deny it.
I think the blanket posts for (using someone elses ex.) Adderal wouldn't work unless someone takes the time to bump it once every couple of days. Plus, the whole fucking board would be filled with blanket posts.
Replying with the simple link to another website is no big deal BUT...
Did you ever think that maybe they would rather TALK to someone about something rather than reading some fucking dry text?
Yes, doing your own research shows initiative, but let's face it, a lot of people don't think like that. They see a forum where people discuss drugs, they are going to read a few posts and start asking questions... that's a natural sequence of events,... unless they are scared by all the ass-rapings and don't ask any questions at all. I bet if you survey the other forums, people will tell you that they don't post in here because of all the harsh fuckers that sit and wait to just fuck your question sideways (I've heard this from about 4 or 5 other BL'ers, and I don't post threads in here for the same reason).
 
I've also suggested a "New 2 Other Drugs" forum in the Mod Forum and it might become a reality....
Many of you may have read my mentions of a New 2 Other Drugs forum.
I'm skimming through O.D and to show everybody how effective this forum would be.
I'm going to give examples of threads that would go into New 2 Other Drugs and threads that would stay in Other Drugs.(All taken from the first page)
New 2 Other Drugs:
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Author Topic: Robotussin pills
xEx
Greenlighter posted 06 May 2001 07:51 AM
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how many 600mg equivalent pills of robotussin would it take to equal a 4oz. bottle?
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As you can see. For the purpose of harm reduction it would be a good idea not to close this thread but this is a topic thats been discussed in full detail time after time.
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Author Topic: Lortab????
xTcgUrL
Bluelighter posted 06 May 2001 06:08 AM
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Can someone give me the basics about this and if there is any recretional vaule..This guy I know gave me his whole script ???
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Author Topic: I AM IN TROUBLE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
PhillyClubKid
Bluelighter posted 03 May 2001 10:31 PM
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My mom is accusing me of takeing some of her ambien and they are saying they are gonna get it finger printed....can they do that? Fuck how the hell do i get myself out of this one. 1 fuckin pill and she is wiggin out..........
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Author Topic: can someone tell me..
dbabyX
Bluelighter posted 06 May 2001 05:22 AM
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what a todem pole is exactly. Sorry if that is a dumb question, but I would like to know wht is in it... my girl tried to sell me some, but I don't know what it is. then a friend said that it is really good and I love pills so... any help??
thanks
~d
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Author Topic: has anyone heard of a drug called 747?
Dj_KlouD
Greenlighter posted 05 May 2001 05:03 PM
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has anyone heard of a drug called 747 its sopposed to be lie flying to paris and being shot back in a cannon if someone know where i can get some information about this could you please help me out.
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Theres many more even just on the front page..
But let me give you some examples of what would stay in OD: http://www.bluelight.ru/ubb/Forum19/HTML/007065.html?reload=5 'Quality of K and the suspicious "more sought after" K' http://www.bluelight.ru/ubb/Forum19/HTML/007077.html?reload=6 'Illustrated DMT extraction'
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I really like the idea of having a New 2 OD forum, it will probably illeminate most (all) of the over-done questions we get here.
As for the person who said I said this forum is for hardcore drugs users only, I didn't say it was for HDU's only but a lot of people who frequent this forum and post on here are.
--psionic
 
I'm not saying this should be changed but, I am curious about the no suppliers being posted rule (for legal chemicals). If these are legallly being sold via the net, and they are discussed very often, albeit indirectly, why can they not be posted or named, even if it's not as a link? I have seen '...a very well known 3 letter online supplier..." so many times in posts. Might as well post it if we are going that far. Also, there is a link to a supplier in the 'Links' portion of BL. Why is it taboo? Again, for legal chems!
[This message has been edited by armada1 (edited 07 May 2001).]
 
I'm not sure if a New to OD forum would work out well in practice since most of the experienced users would probably not enter that forum very often.
I think the forum is pretty good as is. The FAQ should reduce a lot of the simpler repeat postings.
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love peace and grease
ed!
 
I'm not sure if a New to OD forum would work out well in practice since most of the experienced users would probably not enter that forum very often.
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But there is a new to XTC forum, and that get's plenty of traffic.
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Everybody asks yer name
they say you're all the same
so now it's nice one, Geezer
and that's as far as the conversation went
 
I agree with the above, also I think it will be a forum where the moderators will answer most of the questions.
It's not for advanced drug discussion but for simple Q&A's.
--psionic
 
Hi,
I like the way the forum is being moderated. Its alot cleaner and more focused than some other areas of the board.
I think a new to OD would be a bad idea. I think that this encourages uneducated users to inform other uneducated users and this is a bad idea.
Its much better for them to post a lousy question, get a few links/FAQ pointers in return, then come back with the questions which they couldn't find the answers to, or for further explanation.
Splitting might be a good idea, although you really do need to have a *high* level of postings to make this work. If you split and theres no alot of activity in a one of these new forums then they will turn stale fast.
Still this is up to the moderators to discuss and take into consideration.
FAQs and static information are a good idea and something that does help lower new user questions. Abygale is collating some information for publishing and I'll be VERY happy to provide an area for OD mods to upload static information.
re: suppliers. I don't think we should post ANY suppliers. For the reasons stated under the announcements. There are also international problems. eg. Ketamine is not as illegal in the UK as the US. (Class C - Medical, not illegal to possess although illegal to sell without license). Whereas the UK has blanket analogue laws which basically outlaw anything listed in Pihkal.
Posting suppliers for this reason could get an user into trouble, by giving the wrong impression that something is legal or safe when it may not be where they are from.
Case in point was when someone tried to convince me it was ok to post a ketamine supplier, on the grounds that it was not legal at the point of origin. But they where obviously targetting it at the bulk of bluelighters in the US where it is now very illegal.
Its not that hard to use a search engine to find these things. I think its better for people to educate themselves here and then make effort to find them, rather than just following a load of "order here" links to not so well known substances, without reading the advice posted on these pages.
In general this is a good forum, keep up the good work!
Jase
[This message has been edited by Jase (edited 08 May 2001).]
 
i think subdirectories in the forum would be neat, so if you want to ask a question bout sumthing it's easier to get respons cos that subforum is only for those drugs.and then people who doesn't care bout weed for example won't have to see all (for them) annoying posts.
//bTs
 
But there is a new to XTC forum, and that get's plenty of traffic.
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Most of the more-experienced E users on this board do not go in there very often. Most of the truly educated opinions in there are given by the moderators.
For instance, I'm sure a lot of people in this forum could answer just about every question in the New to XTC forum. Yet not a lot of people (myself included) frequent that forum very often.
As Jase says- newbies educating newbies. And sometimes newbies aren't always right.
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love peace and grease
ed!
 
True, most of the questions in New to XTC get answered by either infinity or Pixie Stix.
Also true that if there was a New to OD forum then there would be a lot of newbies helping newbies.
But that already happens in the OD forum anyway. There are always people (myself included!) who answer a question incorrectly, or reply with wrong information, and someone (frequently a moderater) has to step in and make a correction.
All that this means, is that a New to OD forum would require four or five good mods who are committed to keeping the forum in good shape. If BLD2K can manage it, then I'm sure out of the many knowledgeable folks in OD you can find a handful of mods to help the newbies.
It seems to me that there are two types of peeps in the OD forum,
* Those like PhreeX, TripDoc, Morninggloryseed and so on, who are here to discuss various chemical analogues nobody has ever heard of in bafflingly scientific detail
* Those like *insert the name of your favorite greenlighter here* who just want to know how much cough syrup to drink to get off their tits.
It's clear that the two can't coexist nicely, which is why OD is full of locked topics and rude answers, and Announcements..is full of whinges about BigBadNaziMods.
If a New to OD forum was created, then perhaps the OD forum could contain a warning that it was not suitable for those less knowledgeable.
Sorry if this sounds like a whinge...I personally think that the rules in this forum are fine....it's just that a fair few don't.
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Everybody asks yer name
they say you're all the same
so now it's nice one, Geezer
and that's as far as the conversation went
 
geezer, your way off on the types of people who frequent this forum,...
I am in now way as knowledgable as some here (although I have had my experiences), and I rarely post, much less reply. But I am also not a greenlighter that askes stupid questions about robotripping either.
Don't forget the people who read the posts just to get a kick out of all the ass-rapings...
 
Thanks for your input Jase! It's good to know how the admin actually stand on these issues...
As for sub-forums - it sounds good in theory, but it would be mess to maintain.. but static info works - so, this is a call to arms..
EVERYONE knows a lot about SOMETHING, so lets get some FAQ's started.. post them to the forum, we will critique (aka rip you apart and call you names
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Our first FAQ is now online -
http://www.10mbfree.com/otherdrugs/ocfaq.htm
OxyContin - it was written from my info, experiences, and forum members contributions!
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"I am not one of those weak-spirited, sappy Americans who want to be liked by all the people around them. I don't care if people hate my guts; I assume most of them do. The important question is: 'What are they in a position to do about it?'"
 
Again I agree with Geezer, the new2od forum should be moderated by 4 or 5 dedicated mods who will answer the questions there.
I agree it wouldn't be a good idea to have newbie's answering each other's questions that'd prolly kill a few...
--psionic
 
Firstrays....sorry, they were supposed to be examples for the purpose of making my point.
I also happen to fall somewhere between the two.
I was merely tring to point out that I thought it'd be better for all if the forum was split...but it's probably a moot point anyway.
 
The no suppliers rule needs to stay in whenever it applies to drugs which are taken to get fucked up. It's one thing to ask for suppliers of say 5-htp in Europe but something completely different to say "Hey Kewl Doods, where can a bro score sum TCT7?". If people can't make the effort to find suppliers of semi-legal chemicals then they probably won't bother to find out how to use those chemical and so are very likely to fuck up and do serious damage to themselves. Now I don't really care if someone harms themselves doing drugs that they didn't bother to find out about but I do care that those people damaging themselves, I do care about legal substances being banned because of the lame fuckwits who don't know how to safely use drugs...
So no suppliers!!!
Harry
 
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