Ever hook someone up to a drug for the first time, and bad stuff happened to them?

[CharlesTheHammer]

Back in '97, I hooked an aquaintance up with heroin for the first time, cause he was suffering from MAJOR back pain from an accident at work where he blew out 3 discs in his back on the job. I only ever saw this guy once every few years. I stopped by one night, and he was in severe pain, and I had some dope, so I turned him on., and the pain stopped...... Then a few days later, he asked me to show him where I got the H, so I did. He got ripped off the first time, cause he handed a shady part-time dealer/user his money before the dealer gave him the H, and the guy took off!
I had just told him not to do it too, but he said, "I think I can trust this guy!" So we hooked up with some H from another street dealer I had dealt with before.


Then after a few days we lost touch for about 10 years. I stopped by his house to say hi after 10 years, only to find out he was in prison for vehicular homicide. Turns out, he had gotten hooked on H after I turned him on to it, and he had gone out one night to score more H, and on the way back he nodded out at the wheel on I-495, and hit a car head on which was carrying an elderly couple, and they both died.

I dont blame myself, because I didnt force him to make that choice, but it was me that turned him on initially.........

 

[paranoid android]

Well i can definetely unddrstand why you gave him the gear because if i saw someone really suffering like that and they couldnt get to a doctor i would give them whatever i had in the way of a painkiller. I don't think heroin is much more likely to cause addiction then hydromorphone is it? They hand that shit out for severe pain.

Your not guilty of any of this shit because it was his choice to keep on using and you didnt make him use too much and nod at the fucking wheel. In the future in a situation like you where in though you should really send the guy to a doctor.

 

[Lolie]

Not drugs but I definitely feel some responsibility for opening the door to some other things which have gone on to become a problem for the people concerned. I remember being somewhat reluctant at the time precisely because I knew that the bell could never be unrung - on the one hand believing that people are adults and should make their own decisions about risky stuff and on the other knowing that they really had no idea of how opening those doors would change them.

 

[calmAnimal]

it aint your fault man. i got turned on to dope from a "friend" but i dont blame him. i made my own a descions and have to deal with the consequences.

 

[burn out]

thankfully no. i'm sure it's a terrible feeling. in college i sold a friend of mine some norcos, next thing i know he and his friend had both taken 6-8 of them (60-80 mg of hydrocodone with zero tolerance) and one of them had drunk 10 beers prior to that. thankfully, they were both fine and learned their lesson and i was very relieved.

 

[CharlesTheHammer]

The local doctors rarely give out strong pain killers

Well i can definetely unddrstand why you gave him the gear because if i saw someone really suffering like that and they couldnt get to a doctor i would give them whatever i had in the way of a painkiller. I don't think heroin is much more likely to cause addiction then hydromorphone is it? They hand that shit out for severe pain.

Your not guilty of any of this shit because it was his choice to keep on using and you didnt make him use too much and nod at the fucking wheel. In the future in a situation like you where in though you should really send the guy to a doctor.

When I got to his home that night, I hadn't seen him for like 6 years, and he'd just been in the work accident injuring his back like 2 weeks earlier, and his doctors only gave him low strength pain killers, and besides, it was like 9pm, so no doctor was available.

The doctors around here(a lot of them) usually try to pawn off weak, non narcotic pain killers for most folks, even when the pain is severe some times.
Unfortunately, my friend had one of those doctors, and when I saw how much pain he was in, I told him that I had been trying out H for a while, and that I had some. I asked him if he wanted any, and he said yes, so I gave him a line of it.

I previously had told NONE of my friends or acquaintances that I had ever tried H, and I kept it a secret from everyone, so that was the first time I ever hooked up anyone who hadn't used it before.

 

[badandwicked]

You have to work hard to get a habit, it doesn't happen after one smoke/shot. don't blame yourself, no good can come from it, except it will get you down. Go talk to someone if you don't think you can reconcile yourself with this on your own.

 

[unsettled]

I was in a benzo withdrawal related accident where I hit a teenager head on, I don't even remember the actual accident because I was having a seizure while it happened. Do you think my doctor felt responsible because he first gave me the benzos?

I doubt it, I mean I was VERY lucky because the other person wasn't seriously injured and actually my doctor had called in my prescription but the pharmacy was waiting for a second call because the script was a day early or some bullshit.

It's such a fine line, I wasn't even abusing benzos but I was very dependent on them but I took them as prescribed I just ran out a couple days early one month and because of all the rules surrounding controlled substances I had to cold turkey a substance which is very well known to cause seizures, I was obviously a wreck from withdrawals when the pharmacist said they needed to talk to my doctor again before they would give me my prescription.

I know pharmacists have to be careful but they had my history and I really felt like they had zero compassion and didn't even acknowledge the potentially life threatening situation I was in. And sure enough the next day I got in an accident because I had a seizure from benzo withdrawal while driving. I mean, I know better now but I didn't then. What if it had been the Pharmacist's daughter in the car that I hit?

Anyway, I got off topic a bit, but you can't hold yourself responsible for your friends situation. I've been addicted to H, and abused that way more than the benzos, I mean I really took the benzos for anxiety and that's it. You were trying to help out a friend in pain, the person who gave me my first hit of heroin just wanted someone to overcharge for awhile until I figured out how much the shit actually cost and didn't need a middle man anymore.

Your friend could have just have easily ran into a doctor that was willing to prescribe Oxy and he may have ended up in the same situation.

 

[†∆†]

i've introduced probably like, a dozen or so people to cocaine just because i felt like a loser doing it alone

i feel guilty

 

[axl blaze]

You have to work hard to get a habit, it doesn't happen after one smoke/shot. don't blame yourself, no good can come from it, except it will get you down. Go talk to someone if you don't think you can reconcile yourself with this on your own.

yeah I agree with her

it makes sense to feel bad for turning someone on, but I like to think that people have tons of free will in their life and if they really wanted to do something then they would have figured out a way to do it earlier

thinking positively, at least you were there to show him how to score safely (and not get ripped off) and how to use the drug safely (at least I assume you showed him this)

 

[cj]

I have given a few people heroin for there first time disaster usually follows close behind but I mean its IV heroin wtf did they expect?

 

[deadprez219]

two years ago i got one of my best friends turned onto opana because he had torn every muscle in his left shoulder so i gave him 2 40mg opana i told him to take them in quarters cuz he didn't really have a tolerance, i even cut them into quarters for him so he took one of the quaters in front of me and said he'd wait 6 hours before taking the next dose. he was found dead the next morning he had choked on his own vomit. because he couldn't sleep he had taken the other 7 quarters over 2 hours and it made him passout and puke. there isn't a day that goes by that i don't blame myself for his death.

R.I.P. Steve, i'm so sorry brother

 

[PhrostByte]

I've turned one or two people into junkies. It's sad but addicts do sick things when they're sick.

Luckily I can say that I have almost a month clean now.

 

[hoptis]

I think the line you have to draw, and which to base your evaluation of your actions in hindsight is; were my actions motivated by my own selfish agenda (was I out to get something from this person by giving them drugs) or did I do so because I wanted to help them.

I kind of think that if you have a conscience, you'll know the real answer deep down.

No matter what, even if you physically force someone to take a drug for the first time, or do so through deception or coercion, no drug is a one-hit addiction. Up until a point, there is still the question of free will.

 

[PhrostByte]

I know I did it so I could charge double and get high for free. I was an asshole.. I caused a lot of people A LOT of harm.

 

[CharlesTheHammer]

Just remembered another person I hooked up....

This guy started hanging around with some of the 'junkie' crowd, and I had seen him around. One day, he followed me around town when I copped 3 bags, and he told me he'd done H before, and he asked me for a line. So I figured he was telling the truth cause he hung around people who did H, so I turned him on to a small line. He got really high, and I was surprised, cause it was only like 1/3 of a bag. Then he told me it WAS his first time ever doing H!! I was pissed off, cause if I'd given him even a little more, he could've Od-ed!

But then it got worse. About a week later, he stopped by a couple friends of mine's house when I was at work and not around, and he asked them to cop a couple bags of H for him. He also told them he'd done H several times before, and they went out to cop him a bag. When they got back, they were shooting it, and he asked them to shoot him up too. He even told them he'd done it many times before, but he always had someone else do it for him. So they asked how much he wanted to do, and he told them he wanted a whole bag. So they mixed up a bag with spring water, and shot him up. He quickly fell out, and lay unconscious on the floor. He almost died! They did all kinds of shit to keep him from OD-ing, and after a long time, they finally got him back up.

But while he was out, they kind of payed themselves back for saving his life, and got some payback for his dishonesty, and for putting them through that ordeal, by stealing all the cash out of his wallet!

They were a little pissed at me for him showing up at their house and doing that shit, but I explained that I didnt send him there! I didnt really approve of them stealing his cash once I found out about it, but I told him thats what he gets for what he did! They saved his fucking life after all! Some folks would've just drug him out into the alley and left his ass there to die, so that they wouldnt get in trouble for him od-ing in their home because of his choice to do too much dope..... Thats fucked up, but its true!

 

[Jabberwocky]

The intention of dragging someone into drugs is always to encourage them to experience what you are. In that regard you're not a dick as you are having the time of your life and want the other person to feel the same way however you become a dick when you're an addict and you know better and then drag others down due to your own insecurities.

 

[leiphos]

The intention of dragging someone into drugs is always to encourage them to experience what you are. In that regard you're not a dick as you are having the time of your life and want the other person to feel the same way however you become a dick when you're an addict and you know better and then drag others down due to your own insecurities.

Not always. For me, it was a matter of loneliness - trapped in what was most certainly not the time of my life, I wanted someone else to be there with me.

And the intent was not to drag anyone else down. In fact, in the midst of addiction, the possibility of intent, for me, is precluded. I acted on emotional impulse.

 

[Tina Dopemau5]

A friend of mine had a minor heart attack from some meth I gave her. I feel bad, but she did tell me she had done it b4 and she did NOT mention she had a genetic heart condition. She survived but that was scary as hell. I drove to the hospital and stayed with her until her dad showed up and she was in stable condition.

I am a terrible influence on ppl. I've introduced 4 ppl to IV drug use. I never encourage anyone to do anything but if they wanna learn I'll teach them. The way I rationalize this is I figure if they're gonna shoot drugs, might as well learn how to do it in a way that is as safe as possible. And I've introduced countless ppl to the joys of Ecstasy.

 

[theartofwar]

Back in '97, I hooked an aquaintance up with heroin for the first time, cause he was suffering from MAJOR back pain from an accident at work where he blew out 3 discs in his back on the job. I only ever saw this guy once every few years. I stopped by one night, and he was in severe pain, and I had some dope, so I turned him on., and the pain stopped...... Then a few days later, he asked me to show him where I got the H, so I did. He got ripped off the first time, cause he handed a shady part-time dealer/user his money before the dealer gave him the H, and the guy took off!
I had just told him not to do it too, but he said, "I think I can trust this guy!" So we hooked up with some H from another street dealer I had dealt with before.


Then after a few days we lost touch for about 10 years. I stopped by his house to say hi after 10 years, only to find out he was in prison for vehicular homicide. Turns out, he had gotten hooked on H after I turned him on to it, and he had gone out one night to score more H, and on the way back he nodded out at the wheel on I-495, and hit a car head on which was carrying an elderly couple, and they both died.

I dont blame myself, because I didnt force him to make that choice, but it was me that turned him on initially.........

When I was dealing drugs, I lost 8 friends in a 1 1/2 year stretch. Going to funerals and seeing parents you grew up with, your friends you grew up, and realizing that you could've just said no to them... it's very difficult. My point of view is this - if it wasn't from me, it's from someone - I've never had cash and not been bale to cop... it's just the way of life.

Do I feel awful? Yup. Will I carry it with me for the rest of my life ? Nope. I will learn and continue to make choices based on what I have witnessed. Take care , this is a touchy subject.