Blind Melon
Bluelighter
That's how a few of my friends have gained access to my connects. Unfortunately one of them made a complete ass of himself, but Dude was cool enough not to hold it against me. And I semi-freely share my internet connects.
Ever have some dickhead try to steal YOUR connect?
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BlueHues
Bluelighter
Yeah thanks, I may do that...although not really sure what end it's on or what could be done to correct it...
blue1995
Bluelighter
The original question was whether some dickhead has ever tried to steal your connection, not did he succeed in doing so. I recently witnessed someone all but bragging about doing just such a thing, and it made me wonder what others' thoughts were on this. No, I've never been the "man" in any sense of the word, and I don't smoke weed. I'm not the one with all the best connections, either. The times I have been in the middle there's been a good reason. Either source or buyer didn't care to deal with someone they didn't know, or the buyer hadn't been consistent or was otherwise unpredictable/careless/annoying to the point I wasn't willing to stick my neck out. So if a person were to go behind my back in an attempt to prematurely establish that relationship it would be the worst invasion of privacy and reflect poorly on me. As in every arena in life, how well you're getting by is based on relationships, and the way you treat people comes back around.
I always assumed hooking up friends and people you get high with was just a given, and when asking the original question I was thinking more along the lines of other scenarios mentioned, people with whom more of your relationship revolves around these types of transactions. As for the times I have found myself in the middle, by the time my dealer was ok with it, I was ready to get out of there anyway - it's tiresome - which explains why I don't feel bad about taxing someone for going through the trouble the first few times. That's time I could be doing something else, and why would I hook someone up for free if we're not even really that cool? I'm going to get high, too, for my trouble and that's alright. I guess what's been said is that comes back around, too, to what kind of dope you're getting. It might be different with pills and meth than say, weed. People who smoke just seem to want everybody to get high
Not so much that type of climate around the harder stuff.
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BlueHues
Bluelighter
Yeah, I misunderstood....but stealing connects is just the nature of the game. If it's someone I hardly know and don't really have any attachment to, you bet your ass I'm taxing them for hooking them up....It depends on a lot of things I suppose...Who it is, how easy it is, how big of a deal it is....I've had times where friends of mine had people they knew who wanted to make a relatively big buy and insisted on going through me directly...Then, the person comes and meets me and I'm immediately sketched out by them and don't even want to do it...But, I agreed to it so I make the necessary calls and set it up...Then, this person I hardly trust insists on meeting my dealer...It's like, "Fuck you, who do you think you are?"....I hardly know or trust them in the first place and now they think I'm gonna hook them up with my long-time dealer! It's people like that that make me wanna tax them....I'll usually never hook them up again after that...Like anything else in life, not being a douche-bag goes a long way!
Drugs can just be so shady, even weed....people wanna buy them and people have them to sell, but there's so much room for people to get screwed...I hate it when people act like they don't trust me when I'm going out of my way to hook them up, but by the same token, I understand exactly how they feel!
As far as the Karma thing of going over people's head...I've stolen a lot of connects in my day...A lot of the times with a drug like heroin, you meet the good connect through a stone cold junkie who's desperate to make every last dollar they can..They live in the hood and happen to know someone with good shit...I'll be fucked before I let some junkie tax me and tap my bags forever...and in cases like that, the dealer will usually have no problem letting you jump over that guy!
Drugs can just be so shady, even weed....people wanna buy them and people have them to sell, but there's so much room for people to get screwed...I hate it when people act like they don't trust me when I'm going out of my way to hook them up, but by the same token, I understand exactly how they feel!
As far as the Karma thing of going over people's head...I've stolen a lot of connects in my day...A lot of the times with a drug like heroin, you meet the good connect through a stone cold junkie who's desperate to make every last dollar they can..They live in the hood and happen to know someone with good shit...I'll be fucked before I let some junkie tax me and tap my bags forever...and in cases like that, the dealer will usually have no problem letting you jump over that guy!
Blind Melon
Bluelighter
In cases like that the dealer will be glad you did! For the most part I freely give out my connects (to trustworthy people, with connects permission of course). But if I have that mac-daddy-dr-feel-good connect with meth, smack and benzos, all primo grade, priced beyond well below retail, willing to do deliveries and sesh me out... you better believe I'm keeping that one for myself, that said I charge fair taxes (I am going out of my way and risking serious trouble). I paid my dues, every one else can pay theirs. Unless they're a close friend. Of which I have few, by choice. 1-2 maybe 3 good friends > 100 "friends"
Weed hookups though, those I'll give out to any one who's hit a joint with me. Weed is for everybody. A certain responsibility comes with giving a rook their first blast or introducing them to the hook of all hooks. I learned that lesson personally, I gave someone opiates for their first time (it was OC, gave it to him to kill his coke come-down), then when we couldn't touch blow (or do much of anything) without OC I introduced him to Heroin. He spent 3 years on the streets before he died.
BlueHues
Bluelighter
^That sucks, but it happens all the time...There's people who get away with it for years...Then, the person you least suspect starts in with the hard shit and ends up dead or in prison! I believe someone is better off seeing what they're getting into themselves, which involves being around some low-bottom hardcore addicts...Nobody handed me a list of phone numbers for all the best dope dealers in town, I had to go into the slums and get them myself...Nowadays, I probably wouldn't have to do that, but if I had to I could...I know what heroin and crack are all about, what it can do to people...
Blind Melon
Bluelighter
Yeah man. My buddy that OD'd on Heroin could use unlimited amounts of cocaine with seemingly no comedown, didn't think he'd have a problem handling Oxy. How wrong I was. But we all make our own decisions... I tell myself.
Depends on the drug, as explained in the following posts.
Yea, some heroin addicts find themselves relying solely on other peoples cash to get them high. It's not uncommon for a heroin addict to lose his/her job, or have a habit that is too large to support with their weekly paycheck while also having to pay bills, so they middleman to supplement their income or as their only way to continue getting high. If someone is strung out and is getting bundles for really cheap then they can have a couple of people copping though them each day, and not even have to charge that much extra to have themselves 5 or 6 "free" bags a day.
With weed though there is no physical dependence driving the need to have to score each day, and it's also harder to hook people up with a deal they would consider unless you are an actual dealer. Like if someone just wants a 20 bag, they are not going to pay 30 for it so that you can pick up their 20 and get yourself a dime. That's just not happening unless maybe they are older and make a lot of money to the point of not caring about paying a little extra to not go though an actual dealer. You could pick up some more weight with their money and break it down so they get what they pay for and you get yours too, but that's a lot of work for suck little reward. At that point you might as well become a dealer and just do it that way.
The original question was whether some dickhead has ever tried to steal your connection, not did he succeed in doing so. I recently witnessed someone all but bragging about doing just such a thing, and it made me wonder what others' thoughts were on this. No, I've never been the "man" in any sense of the word, and I don't smoke weed. I'm not the one with all the best connections, either. The times I have been in the middle there's been a good reason. Either source or buyer didn't care to deal with someone they didn't know, or the buyer hadn't been consistent or was otherwise unpredictable/careless/annoying to the point I wasn't willing to stick my neck out. So if a person were to go behind my back in an attempt to prematurely establish that relationship it would be the worst invasion of privacy and reflect poorly on me. As in every arena in life, how well you're getting by is based on relationships, and the way you treat people comes back around.
I always assumed hooking up friends and people you get high with was just a given, and when asking the original question I was thinking more along the lines of other scenarios mentioned, people with whom more of your relationship revolves around these types of transactions. As for the times I have found myself in the middle, by the time my dealer was ok with it, I was ready to get out of there anyway - it's tiresome - which explains why I don't feel bad about taxing someone for going through the trouble the first few times. That's time I could be doing something else, and why would I hook someone up for free if we're not even really that cool? I'm going to get high, too, for my trouble and that's alright. I guess what's been said is that comes back around, too, to what kind of dope you're getting. It might be different with pills and meth than say, weed. People who smoke just seem to want everybody to get high
Yea I guess if you have a really good dealer who either gives you a great deal or who has great stuff where nobody will complain about having to go through you then it's alright, but otherwise I would just pass off the dealer if it's cool with them. And yea, I agree with the weed part.
Yup, a lot of times middlemen become such a pain in the ass to dealers (even more than they may be to users) that the dealers won't mind cutting them out either. It's because they are always asking for better deals so they can get high with every purchase they make for someone else (just say no if it's not worth it for you) and because they are usually asking for fronts for times when the person with the money that they are copping for might not be around until later but the dealer is only around at that moment. So they get it fronted and then see the person with the money who needed the dope, do the deal, but then figure they can pay back the dealer with that cash and ask for another front even when they don't have another deal lined up, but they don't want to see the dealer without getting something from them. That leads to them being in debt and then agreeing to work it off, which is obviously a pain in the ass to the dealer.
Another thing that may annoy the dealer selling to a middleman is how the amount they want is always changing, which makes things complicated. If a middleman is making one run for 3 or 4 people things are bound to get complicated since chances are someone is going to change the amount they are getting, and often times someone is going to back out of the deal (possibly because they have their own dealer who wasn't answering before but is now back around, and they will be getting a better deal by going directly though their dealer rather than a middleman) so by the time you have all the cash together it's usually not the same amount that you made the initial order for when you called to see if they were good.
BlueHues
Bluelighter
^Ha, yeah it's funny...It's a complicated, high-stakes situation we all have to go through just to get high on our drug of choice....It seems so ridiculous at times...It really would be nice if the whole world just acknowledged the reality that people are gonna get high anyway and this whole drama would end!
LSDiesel
Bluelighter
I totally agree with this statement. There's only a handful I would middle for dope. One of them even WANTS me to middle it, and knows how much I am making off the deal because he doesn't want to go into the hood. He's essentially paying for the peace of mind of not getting caught in the hood, driving with it, etc.
The other friend, I know he probably would like the connect, but he's a mess. He has DUIs and is on probation. His habit was getting bad this past summer, and I just cut off my middlemaning for him, and he's doing alot better in that regard. Not hooked anymore, not waking up sick. Plus, even though he's my boy and we go way back, I just know that he would do something to mess up the connect, he would get caught, or not be street smart. Oh, and I don't charge him anything either, he gets it at cost. I just dont wanna give up the connect to him, cuz I know he would be a mess quickly if he had the access that I do to dope. BTW, i'm not saying that I'm not a mess either.
And also, it did take me years to get the solid connects I have now. I'm not about to let someone mess that up.
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blue1995
Bluelighter
Word.
verso
Bluelighter
QFT
But I only hook up friends I know really, really well, well enough to know that they won't do anything stupid; I don't want to be getting phone calls from my dealers, "yo, your boy beat me!"
I don't hoard my dealers, and I hate people who do hoard their dealers. I've stolen a connect before, and I didn't feel bad about it either. I was getting middled by this kid for the longest time, and he gave me the ol' "oh yeah he's not seeing anyone else right now" lol the kid was such a dickhead as, without my giving him a ride all the time, he wouldn't even be seeing this guy half as often so, eventually I just memorized the number he called, watching him punch it into my phone before calling and then deleting it. I memorized it, wrote it down, and called the guy myself a few days later.
So, yeah, I don't let people steal my connects because I usually just give them away myself. And if ever I didn't want someone to have my connect, my dealers know me well enough to know that for me not to hook them up with someone new, a new custie, then the person must be a real shady character, and I doubt that they would agree to see a person like that anyway.
Pill2Chill
Bluelight Crew
I could go ahead and reformulate this, but this is basically exactly how I feel about the subject.
So, on topic: One time in highschool I shared a paranoid connect with a mate, eventhough the connect always asked to deal only w/ me I didn't mind pushing him till he agreed to meet my 'mate'. After a while I lost his number, so I asked my 'mate' for it. He told me the guy only wanted to deal with him from now on, and that i'd have to go through him now. Which obviously I never did. After I while I encountered the connect somewhere, and ofcourse I got his number back. Last time I'm sharing a connect with that douche..
Also with the same connect; I'd convinced him to meet yet another friend of mine and they seemed to get along. After a while my mate borrowed 50€ worth of pot, and because he'd just found another dealer he neglected to pay mine back. His new dealer gave bigger bags, but it was shit weed. Anyway, the dude I'd shared didn't want to deal with that friend, nor me from that moment on. I wasn't very angry about that one, but I did think it was kind of pathetic to burn him for 50€.
TheRapperGoneBad
Bluelighter
My ex girl now but her friend is loaded and use to steal number out my chicks phone she always buys out my dilly hook up
LSDMDMA&
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I only ever did that twice and it was with dope connects. The one was my friends dealer of 2 years who iet one night but the dealer told me i couldnt see him without the friend. So one day i was going to my one connect but i drove by the dudes place and he was standing outside selling and i just was like i know you said dont come alone but xxxxx is a scumbag. Do you have any now cause i was gonna go to my dude but yours is better. He sold to me no problem and i ended up getting his number and his house/his family were my main connect until they stopped selling.
Other time i let my middleman use my phone and i saved his dealers number and months later tried it and just said im xxxxxxx's friend can i get some and he didnt ask any questions, just let me come to him Nd buy no questions asked. But he was sketchy and i never used him much.
I had one friend who i mighta gave my main connects number when i was using because my connect had met him before but when my friend called him one night he got mad at me and my friend and said that my friend has to go through me and told me to tell my friends they had to go through me always cause he was paranoid and he had known me for months and i used to see him every day so he trusted me but hed only see me alone on foot in an alley.
Other time i let my middleman use my phone and i saved his dealers number and months later tried it and just said im xxxxxxx's friend can i get some and he didnt ask any questions, just let me come to him Nd buy no questions asked. But he was sketchy and i never used him much.
I had one friend who i mighta gave my main connects number when i was using because my connect had met him before but when my friend called him one night he got mad at me and my friend and said that my friend has to go through me and told me to tell my friends they had to go through me always cause he was paranoid and he had known me for months and i used to see him every day so he trusted me but hed only see me alone on foot in an alley.
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serotonin-system
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lol
jonnynapalm
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yea once
long story short, this dude must have tried to hook up with my boy after he got his number due to me calling him from the dudes phone
i got asked if i vouched for him
i said no
it got handled & i never heard from the dude again
me & my boy are still tight, it was a simple mistake
long story short, this dude must have tried to hook up with my boy after he got his number due to me calling him from the dudes phone
i got asked if i vouched for him
i said no
it got handled & i never heard from the dude again
me & my boy are still tight, it was a simple mistake
Pill2Chill
Bluelight Crew
We don't "steal" eachothers connects, we share them instead ..
Much better tbh.
Much better tbh.
Toz
Bluelighter
Lol it's the nature of the game. I try to steal everyone's connections, why would I want to deal with middlemen when I can go straight to the source? This has saved me lots of cash during the years and if I pissed someone off, well, boooho.