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European Heroin Discussion v We like noise, it's our choice (v.17)

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So on to my point Backroll- just be careful. Crack can help- but the jones can trigger a relapse so exercise extreem caution.

Today, my friend hooked me up with 15 more 10 mg methadone pills. Thought I had a minor habit- this relapse has been bizarre in that when I use, I usually use daily for months, sometimes years. This time I used for a few days, took a week of then used again, took 2 weeks off then over the last 2 weeks would use for a few days, take a few days off, and the intervals have been getting shorter. Now the last day I used I got ripped off majorly- dope was good but small issue. So at work wasn't feeling too bad, been drinking through this whole relapse but when I would feel bad figured i was alittle hung over. Plus it has been taking me 24 hours to begin to feel sick, not the 8-12 of a proper habit. What suprised me was that 10 mg of methadone did nothing. Finally after 40 mg my eyes went back to normal and I even caught a slight nod. This would seem to imply more than a chippers habit. So your advice mates, what would be a good rapid taper schedule. And I have the pills. In my experience they are better (probably better bioavailability) than the juice which is red not green over here. In fact, recognizing this phenomena, some progressive clinics give their patients a choice of formulations.

So advice appreciated?

I wish Drugs, inc had checked out other places: Lisbon, Zurich, Amsterdam, repressive places like Singapore, maybe cover the scene in Cambodia, Bogota, Vancouver, BC. Also Sandiego/TJ would be a good one since the scene of both cities are linked.
 
Jspun I'd usually merge double/triple posts but yours are so long I think it might go over the wordlimit!! I'll leave them be but generally we encourage people not to do that too much :) I've also had to snip some bulk prices from an earlier post of yours.. price discussion for personal amounts is something that we've fought to allow in EADD but bulk pricing is a definite no-no, or we'll lose the privilege of allowing prices at all.. it's subjective what is considered "bulk" as obviously what constitutes a personal amount differs from person to person but use common sense :) an 8th is my absolute top limit for heroin I think, we used to have a gram as the largest amount we'd allow..

I'm not sure what to suggest about your taper, I'm sure someone in here will have some advice, but there's a thread over in Other Drugs *here* which is all about tapering plans - you might find that useful? The folk over in Other Drugs are pretty good at that kind of thing so you can always start your own thread about it over there too, or have a look through the OD Directory, there's a lot of useful info in there :) although we have some very knowledgeable and smart people in this thread too! Good luck with it and take care of yourself <3
 
So on to my point Backroll- just be careful. Crack can help- but the jones can trigger a relapse so exercise extreem caution:sus:

Today, my friend hooked me up with 15 more 10 mg methadone pills. Thought I had a minor habit- this relapse has been bizarre in that when I use, I usually use daily for months, sometimes years. This time I used for a few days, took a week of then used again, took 2 weeks off then over the last 2 weeks would use for a few days, take a few days off, and the intervals have been getting shorter. Now the last day I used I got ripped off majorly- dope was good but small issue. So at work wasn't feeling too bad, been drinking through this whole relapse but when I would feel bad figured i was alittle hung over. Plus it has been taking me 24 hours to begin to feel sick, not the 8-12 of a proper habit. What suprised me was that 10 mg of methadone did nothing. Finally after 40 mg my eyes went back to normal and I even caught a slight nod. This would seem to imply more than a chippers habit. So your advice mates, what would be a good rapid taper schedule.

So advice appreciated?

It sounds like you have enough pills to go down quickly in a week / ten days, just judge by how you feel. Can do 5 at a push.
I have benzos on hand (a weeks worth maybe) and at least a daughter of good weed! Although mentioning that I used mam-2201 blend this time round, potent as hell! I told the wife it was bush weed but she found me really mash up a few times and confiscated it! I still can't find it! Think she chucked it!

Give yourself a week to feel totally normal of your habit I reckon. With a little help obviously;)

And welcome to the weekend everyone else! I had a stroke of genius luck this week! I got sacked from work a week ago, but hadn't broken the news to anyone and yesterday my girl told me to quit it because it was shit! I was having to leave the gaff all day, benzoed up smoking rock and blend, rocking it in the library! Thank god for her cash for part of my food and part of the roof! Much much bigger parts!8)

You gotta be a library member...hours of warmth there:D

It's snowing constantly here and very lightly, its rather attractive. I don't sniff at beauty me%)

~4 days clean at midnight tonight BTW~

And fuck you pontifex!! Cunt!! Thought you were retired?!
 
http://www.thersa.org/__data/assets...Recovery-Everyday_lives_of_recovery_users.PDF

here's another thing to read if you have nothing better to do...or better things to do that you don't want to do. I'm getting ready for my 20 hour days. at least it's not pitch black like winter. quite looking forward to it. will hopefully be not sleeping right come the dawn chorus times. ah yeah!! the earth need not slow down its rotation for I will be gaining hours thru lack of sleep :)
 
whilst im currently unemployed=Dim pretty close to a new born a small flat, a wife, and a proper job that I feel I am qualified for now.
20 hour days they be coming.

Slow down earth!
 
Just wanted to rub in everyone's face that I scored >80% China White last night, and after 6 months, it was glorious.

Was a bit over-enthusiastic with that shot though and now I've got a H hangover :/ didn't miss those. Anyone know how to get rid of them faster? And don't say more H lol, last thing I want is another binge/WDs on my hands...

>80%?! You bastard ponti, I'm happy when I get 30! Send a bit over? :p

Tomorrow I get to have H again after a week off, literally counting the hours \o/
 
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Ah manlost another post - thats the trouble with taking oxy;s, gear and valium...just saying when you get a big bag of a couple of g;s or so it looks like it will last forever even when you scoop out a huge dollop to put on the foil - i split mine in to 3 bags so i can try and keep a sensible eye on it and im sure it works as it lasts me 5 dsys. Anyhoo the vals are kicking in now so now is the time to stop tyoing as its a fucker tyoing on then critters.
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Ah manlost another post - thats the trouble with taking oxy;s, gear and valium...just saying when you get a big bag of a couple of g;s or so it looks like it will last forever even when you scoop out a huge dollop to put on the foil - i split mine in to 3 bags so i can try and keep a sensible eye on it and im sure it works as it lasts me 5 dsys. Anyhoo the vals are kicking in now so now is the time to stop tyoing as its a fucker tyoing on then critters.
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It's a hard rock life
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Sorry effie. Thanks for the resources. Ill be careful with price discussion.<3

No probs, I know the rules can be a bit confusing and what constitutes personal vs bulk isn't set in stone anyways.. thank you for understanding :) <3

Good luck with your taper - please keep us updated.. the tapering thread I linked you to is quite old I think, you may find the methadone megathread in the OD directory is a better place to ask your question, although I'm pleased to see our members in here are helping too - knew they would, we've got hell of a lot of experience in here if you combine everyone! One of the best HR threads in EADD IMO, when it's not full of back-biting and one-up-man-ship ;)
 
Pontifex- Backrolls quote not mine- though i am jelous you fuckin cunt. did i ever tell you guys about the intercontinental war we had on this thread last year and a half- some yanks (like me) got on the board and started boasting about the gear they were getting, and to add insult to injury they were hooking up during the drought good stuff stateside while people in the UK/Eire were hurting. i think I kept my head down, but after the predicted miscontent and anger - the yanks were implying that the brits didn't have game or such nonsensene, the main irritant, thinking he was being cool and adding levity to the situation, told someone to "stop being such a wanker'...that day I was ashamed to be an American8o... little did this yanky noodle wanker know, calling someone across the pond a wanker is worse than a cunt (often a term of enderment), ... hence the treanscontinental incident... the way, By Pontifex, you cunt, come vaction in San Diego and bring Ya Ba and alot of that SE Asian heaven! Do that and my house will be your house- its not humid...weather is a perfect54-75 degrees right now...lol

Just an aside- my daughter and wife were visiting relatives in tuscon, Arizona, and incidentally it snowed the last 2 day there. She (5 years old) experienced snow when she was 2 and I wanted to bring her to the snow in Hawaii on Mauna Kea, but it had been a long day ( when she was 3), that vacation on the Big Island of Hawaii was when this thread- and the heroin drought came to my attention- 2 years ago give or take,
 
Not posted for a few days, cos ive been smashed. Gear is back to how it was pre '10 im sure it is.

@ponti come to st helens in the uk, youll love it....:?:?

hope all is well with everyone...ill try to post later after a thing
 
I hate the eheroin hangovers. Foolishly got gear after work last night resulted in no sleep, yet getting up at daft o clock and the need for more of the devils talcum powder. i am stopping as of now. I do actually believe in my self. it's going to be a long road but no pain no gain as they say. it's the fear of how brilliant i am going to be once i am off this stuff that has been stopping me . i;ll be as sharp as that sword of the brides in kill bill. I have honed my skill of patience thru the hours waited for dealers and i am going to do this well and good. cannot afford to sustain this financially. sick of being skint wrt to time money and human contact. I'm not a materialistic person but I am fed up of having sweet fa and making do. ( i blame being brought up on hand me downs and being told "who'll be looking at you anyway" what do you need that for . No, I'm not mad for material goods and must avoid facebook and everyones new sofas and all that. + all the alcohol praise thatis to be found on its pages. grrr. It makes me so angry the encouragement and praise of drunkeness
 
I think we all want ponti to come stay with us in exchange for his dope :D
Although I can't really complain about what I'm getting in London considering in Paris you're lucky if you get double-digit purity.
 
I'm not sure if you're being sarcastic or not, but if you're not, please say so and I'll write up a whole novel on why it is and why you should never try it.
 
Really? I never knew anything about the H scene in Paris, thinking about it though it doesn't come as a great surprise. What type of smack do you guys get? Base or #4? I'm guessing base...

Yeah, France isn't the best place in the world for heroin. And yeah it was base. Really shit drug scene in Paris honestly - it's also a particularly dangerous place to cop IME, the neighborhoods where you can find drugs are considerably more violent and shit than those in London, for instance.
 
I hate the eheroin hangovers. Foolishly got gear after work last night resulted in no sleep, yet getting up at daft o clock and the need for more of the devils talcum powder. i am stopping as of now. I do actually believe in my self. it's going to be a long road but no pain no gain as they say. it's the fear of how brilliant i am going to be once i am off this stuff that has been stopping me . i;ll be as sharp as that sword of the brides in kill bill. I have honed my skill of patience thru the hours waited for dealers and i am going to do this well and good. cannot afford to sustain this financially. sick of being skint wrt to time money and human contact. I'm not a materialistic person but I am fed up of having sweet fa and making do. ( i blame being brought up on hand me downs and being told "who'll be looking at you anyway" what do you need that for . No, I'm not mad for material goods and must avoid facebook and everyones new sofas and all that. + all the alcohol praise thatis to be found on its pages. grrr. It makes me so angry the encouragement and praise of drunkeness

Here, here.

I feel the same way.
Gotta make a new start and pack away the drugs for a while.

If only to feel connected with the people around me. It's a sad lonely existence & life's too short to keep on with this fuckery.
$0.02
 
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