Etizolam Rising in Popularity in the UK

[Libertin]

Due in part to its uncontrolled status etizolam is becoming more popular in the UK. I'm interested in social trends concerning drug use. This isn't any kind of formal research but I'd be interested to know the following from fellow UK citizens who have used etizolam.

1. Describe your experience with etizolam.
2. Why did you choose to try etizolam?
3. How do you perceive the safety of etizolam compared with other drugs?
4. What do you expect to be the outcome of etizolam's rising popularity in the UK?

I'll begin by answering for myself.

1. I've used etizest-1 quite a bit over the last few months. I've found its anxiolytic effects to be potent and very pleasant. Since starting, I've craved this drug more than anything else I've taken but have managed to moderate my usage. Side effects I experienced include headaches and very minor eyelid twitching when used for ~3 or more consecutive days.
2. I chose it because it's legal and I had previous experience with a diazepam, from personal research I concluded that etizolam was a comparable drug, so my curiosity began there.
3. I think etizolam's main danger is compulsive redosing, the urge to do so is far greater than diazepam in my experience, additionally many scary blackout stories are beginning to emerge on internet message boards. A lot of self control is required to use this drug responsibly in my opinion.
4. I expect it to be banned in the UK after some irresponsible users cause serious harm to themselves, which will inevitably be sensationalised in the media.

 

[5StarSquatHotel]

I will answer in full later but a quick thought -the drug services at consultant level are well aware of the epidemic that would break out if this was banned due to the massive amounts of people hooked on it and the nhs could not cope with mass amounts of people being forced into dangerous forced home seizure inducing detoxes. They may work on a plan to counter than eg shite short oxazepam tapers or the like but I cant see that happening. I don't think a large % of the people taking it daily are aware of how dangerous any benzo type substance can be.

 

[mydrugbuddy]

http://www.bbc.com/news/health-14299501

"More than a million people in the UK are estimated to be addicted to prescription drugs known as benzodiazepines." (Presumably this figure does not include the currently uncontrolled non-prescription benzos, there are no estimates to the numbers of people using those, not that i have seen at least.)

If the UK bans the several currently uncontrolled benzos people will just get them from other countries that lag behind in the ban stakes. Even so, it does worry me that a ban could be looming, and for that reason i dont like drawing attention to etiz as for my own personal situation i need the stuff to stay 'off the radar' until i get tapered off it. When i have the spare cash i will probably stockpile enough to complete a taper on for my own peace of mind. For various reasons i havent been able to make much headway with my taper, so far. I know that i could be creating long term problems for myself, i didnt need them before i went and got myself addicted, but now that i have i never seem to be able to find the right time to really get cracking on a taper. I need to though as i will need to be able to travel overseas soon.

A number of people on BL have told tales of etizolam induced disasters, but imo compared to Phenazepam, etizolam doesnt have anything like the same capacity for inducing disasters. I spose thats not saying much as virtually anything comes out well compared to phenazepam and all the train wreck stories that went with that. In all honesty i find it difficult to gauge how much of an effect etiz has on me, and it is only from the reactions of other people that i can gauge things like that, as even when completely fucked i still feel completely clear headed even if i am incapable of walking in a straight line or speaking without slurring. It's a very strange one.

 

[headfuck123]

Etizolam is like heaven and hell for me. I love the relief it can provide when needed but it has also caused me a good deal of trouble too.

 

[ScotchMist]

I bet the Government are really scratching their heads with this one...

Its not just potential fun they'd be taking away but leaving alot of people in serious danger.. Teva and Activas will be cashing in big time from the army of Eti users having to move on to reducing scripts.

 

[ColtDan]

I think etizolam's main danger is compulsive redosing, the urge to do so is far greater than diazepam in my experience, additionally many scary blackout stories are beginning to emerge on internet message boards. A lot of self control is required to use this drug responsibly in my opinion.

For me i find them quite easy to use responsibly, keeping the potential of rebound or withdrawl in mind, puts me off taking the piss with them. altho everyones different etc, i bet theres people out there hammering them without a clue of the consequences. rebounds harder and faster than diaz, i like etiz but it can quickly turn into some nasty shite

Im surprised the media havent started banging on about them yet, considering the length of time they've been around

 

[spudgun]

I've bought it twice in fairly large quantities and ended up blacking out on both occasions, both times awakening with all of the order having vanished and some majorly unhealthy stuff gone on in the interim.

I'm not normally an irresponsible person, even on alcohol. I have to watch myself very closely with these, though.

 

[THECATINTHEHAT]

1. I've used and abused it both by itself and alongside other benzodiazepines.
2. Why not, it was just another benzo (or benzo analog)
3. As with most benzo drugs it's really safe and light on the liver with a huge difference between a medical or recreational dose and a dangerous one until you mix in any another cns depressant especially booze.
4. If they were going to outlaw it they would have done already

 

[strungout2010]

Iv found them fantastic for. Anxiety, i only get 28 5mil valium a month from the dr.
And i rather take a couple.etiz anytime but it's the same as most things, 'rip the piss out of them and your going to fuck yourself, use them properly and you'll be sweet

 

[THECATINTHEHAT]

Any habits a habit really, benzo tolerance can be a very strange thing as well. My script is only 25mg diazepam a day but I can pour 80mg of mixed loose blues, etizest and etilaam all confirmed as normal by others down my neck and be there and with it.

 

[THECATINTHEHAT]

I will answer in full later but a quick thought -the drug services at consultant level are well aware of the epidemic that would break out if this was banned due to the massive amounts of people hooked on it and the nhs could not cope with mass amounts of people being forced into dangerous forced home seizure inducing detoxes. They may work on a plan to counter than eg shite short oxazepam tapers or the like but I cant see that happening. I don't think a large % of the people taking it daily are aware of how dangerous any benzo type substance can be.

Lol I reckon there is actually a fair amount of truth in this I reckon. My drug services want to get me to do some work for them regarding service user-service relations and RC's and I reckon a fair amount of it is going to be them wanting to know how much of an issue RC benzos are. I would say there must be a real significant number of people out there with habits that would all descend on the services if it was suddenly outlawed because it's the only benzo they use and couldn't cover it elsewhere.

Who knows though, it would just blur the lines on the blackmarket benzo market I reckon as it would be flooded with etizolam repressed as diazepam just because it would be easier and more valuable to sell.

 

[LearntYoung]

I've had 10mg (10×1mg) once, but that was enough to know that Etizolam is way too addictive for me and yet I'm thinking about ordering it again.
That's how addictive it is.
I would not recommend anybody to get etizolam, ever.
And yet I totally get why it's so popular.

 

[THECATINTHEHAT]

For me it has far less abuse potential than any of hypnotic benzos but that matters not really, if you pick up a habit it's going to be difficult to get out. The short duration can't help matters because you need to be constantly topping up. At least with diazepam you can dose once a day and forget about it once you're stable and you don't notice any effect on you unless you have your supply interrupted.

I was amazed by the amount I could drink when I had a big diazepam habit, easily put away a bottle of spirits plus a load of beers without even feeling tipsy on days I had a disruption to the supply (which just held off the wd really).

 

[Bearlove]

When you can buy this in bags of powder and you read the dip a toothpick in it etc - not really going to end well?

 

[mydrugbuddy]

When you can buy this in bags of powder and you read the dip a toothpick in it etc - not really going to end well?

usually that would possibly spell disaster; you have no way of really knowing whether yor dose is 3mg or 30mg. So unless you have a very high tolerance or dont care if you might be blacked out for 24 hours or something (or just do something embarrasing in public). Much better to dissolve the powder into PG and use 2ml oral syringes for accurate dosage measurement.

 

[LearntYoung]

Eyeballing it, the adrenaline of not knowing combines well with the etizolam high
No serious, just get some stroh rum...

 

[Sammy G]

Still potentially dangerous after a slightly-higher-than-usual dose: you'll find innumerable accounts of people becoming lax and swigging from the bottle as the etiz begins to make them behave irresponsibly.

I wonder how much the use of etizolam and other RC benzo analogues has increased because of the demise of a certain phenomenally-popular forum which was facilitating the sale and distribution of millions of illicit benzos every week?

 

[ColtDan]

4. If they were going to outlaw it they would have done already

Wouldnt be so sure of that, other stuff that has been around for longer has just been recently banned, theres no reason for this not to be banned, other than people w/ding on the stuff. and i doubt the gov really give too much of a shit about that tbh

When you can buy this in bags of powder and you read the dip a toothpick in it etc - not really going to end well?

Deffo not, ive got no sympathy at all for people doing stupid shit like that

 

[Bearlove]

Deffo not, ive got no sympathy at all for people doing stupid shit like that

Does my head in, if people don't have an accurate way of dosing powder - then buy the 1mg tablets (or some scales).

 

[ColtDan]

Exactly, annoys me as well