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Etizolam - My drug hell

Taper, taper, taper, taper - one for luck.

Sorry you had to learn the hard way, Issy. Benzos are fukkin deadly for sneaky addictions though. Thankfully you weren't in too deep. Have read of folks here taking insane doses daily. Doesn't bear thinking about what's gonna happen if supply is suddenly cut :|

Glad you're over the worst of it, Issy. Stick to the swirls ;)
 
More or less mirrors my experience with it earlier on in the year. It's a pretty brutal one to stop even after a couple of weeks' daily use.

Given its widespread availability I'm surprised we haven't heard more nightmare withdrawal stories. Good to see you found a way out of the pit though. I was in such a miserable state that my ex-girlfriend actually looked after me and expressed real concern (which is unheard of; even was when we were together) for a couple of evenings.
 
i was taking etiz quite a bit before ibiza in september then tanned loads of them in ibiza and the following days after, then ran out. What followed was the first time i havehad a full on anxiety attack. Never experienced anything like it before and was a bit of a shock to say the least.

Dunno if the anxiety attack was due to the Etiz or just part of the packagewith the mother of all comedowns post ibiza. Either way im wary of taking them continually.
 
Rebound anxiety = standard benzo w/d effect. Problem with benzos over the longterm is that whenever you finally stop - even with a proper taper - you get all the symptoms you used benzos to avoid back again only far, far worse. Is a bit shithouse tbh.

I like etiz. I like most benzos. I don't abuse any benzos these days. Lessons well learnt in the past :|
 
Shambles said:
QFT.

I do hope the government doesn't too anything too silly like go banning it without plenty warning cos that's gonna cause a world of hurt to many :|
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I agree but it's not like folk don't know n the same folk that buy etiz will no doubt end up buying other benzos on line .
Like i have mentioned b4 .
I wonder how many folk on here have got a benzo habit n don't even know it ? A few i rekon.

Glad your feeling Better Issy
 
Partially agree, Brimz. The fact that etiz is being sold alongside more standard RC fare (party stuff basically) has probably caught a few folk out though. Same as selling tramadol analogues. Not so sure it's entirely wise selling stuff like that when you can't legally warn the punters of the potential risks involved. Was sent a linkee to a euro-vendor selling a pethidine analogue recently. Full-blown legal opioid on the RC market. On the one hand wahey (=D) on t'other hand tears before bedtime? Mixed opinion tbh. Would be fine if it could have the necessary warnings and advice on dosing and stuff.
 
Shambles said:
Partially agree, Brimz. The fact that etiz is being sold alongside more standard RC fare (party stuff basically) has probably caught a few folk out though. Same as selling tramadol analogues. Not so sure it's entirely wise selling stuff like that when you can't legally warn the punters of the potential risks involved. Was sent a linkee to a euro-vendor selling a pethidine analogue recently. Full-blown legal opioid on the RC market. On the one hand wahey (=D) on t'other hand tears before bedtime? Mixed opinion tbh. Would be fine if it could have the necessary warnings and advice on dosing and stuff.
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I suppose if they did that then some punters would be put off maybe ?
These guys are in it to make money no other reason AFAIK.

I've seen the Fent analogues another great idea:|
 
Ha! Fent analogues are a total pisstake :D

But not easily found on easy to access sites are they? Not that I've ever come across anyway. "Behind the scenes" stuff usually and definitely not from any UK sites. If they are then they'd better PM me sharpish =D

Vendors can't even really hint at dosing or effects and stuff cos then they'd be admitting they were selling for human consumption which is a big no-no. Whilst it's all well and good having this grey market kinda stuff it ultimately fucks people over cos they just don't have access to the safety info unless they check sites like this... which the vast majority don't :\
 
i don't take it anymore myself (along with all RC's) but i think it is good thank etiz is actually used and approved for commercial use - not that that means what you buy online is actually etizolam.

it seems that it is inevitable that at some point some RC is going to cause horrible side effects, it's just a matter of time. i can't see any reason to play russian roulette with RC's when 99% of the time they are just shit compared to the real thing. why risk your mental and physical health for a crappy drug that has no history of human use when there are more than enough great drugs with documented histories of human use where the risks and side effects are known? i would rather risk getting in trouble with the law than my mental and physical health, any day.

RC's make it so easy to acquire so-called "drugs" that it is inevitable inexperienced and ignorant people will buy them and cause themselves irreversible damage, all for a high that is blown out of the water by their illegal counterparts.
 
i against i said:
i don't take it anymore myself (along with all RC's) but i think it is good thank etiz is actually used and approved for commercial use...
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Didn't say it was bad that it was able to be sold - just that it's bad that the government won't allow vendors to give any real detail on effects, dose and so on. Having known several UK vendors, most I've spoken to would gladly give all the necessary info for the punters to make a more informed decision but their hands are tied :\
 
i was saying that it is good that etizolam is approved for therapeutic use in many countries, unlike the majority of RCs
 
Shambles said:
Didn't say it was bad that it was able to be sold - just that it's bad that the government won't allow vendors to give any real detail on effects, dose and so on. Having known several UK vendors, most I've spoken to would gladly give all the necessary info for the punters to make a more informed decision but their hands are tied :\
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I've seen some vendors saying things like "50mg is sufficient for one laboratory experiment", which, given they're already selling things as for laboratory use, seems unlikely to be a problem.
 
Ya. I know some do that but is pretty thin stuff really when half their customers really are utterly clueless when it comes to effects and stuff. Plus I'd bet the majority take one look at that and triple it cos they're assuming it's just "all they're allowed to admit to" or some such shite. Have heard it from punters meself. They don't half take some convincing those non-BL type folk :\
 
Aye you're right, some folk just seem to suffer a complete failure of logic when it comes to drugs. Like, suggesting to use a scale so they know how much they're taking and being told they prefer to just dab at it.

Why of course! A random amount is so much better! We all love surprises!
 
knockando said:
some folk just seem to suffer a complete failure of logic when it comes to drugs. Like, suggesting to use a scale so they know how much they're taking and being told they prefer to just dab at it.
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This really is one of the most annoying things ever...
 
Ha! Actually I do quite like surprises sometimes =D

... but only cos I have some degree of familiarity with the stuff surprising me. Have spoken to "standard punters" who are frankly lucky to be alive the kinda ridiculous shit they've done seemingly purely for "bragging rights" (:|) or out of sheer ignorance. Makes my hair curl tbh. Is why I think proper information should be widely available rather than just on niche places like this where "drug nerds" come to compare notes. Rather an alive drug nerd than a dead moron tbh.
 
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