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Benzos Etizolam Mega Thread v1

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I'm thinking of trying these out and have been trying to find a good vendor and think i found one do any of you have good luck with the one's that come in blister backs? 1mg
from india?
 
I'm having a wisdom tooth taken out in a couple of days and I know they use certain numbing agent and anesthetics. My harm-reduction question is: I really need some kind of anxiolytic to help with the overwhelming anxiety I always feel in this situations and I wanted to ask anyone who may know whether or not taking maybe 3mg or less of etizolam is likely to interact with anything they're likely to give me before the procedure in a dangerous way?
I have to have it done in two days time and the anticipatory anxiety is overwhelming, as is the claustrophobia I feel in that environment and the complete loss of control over the whole procedure. I desperately need something to take the edge of and relax me. Is it a good idea? Are the risks minimal or would you guys say it's absolutely to be avoided?
Any thoughts appreciated, please. Thanks in advance.

I have an anecdotal answer. I had a bad experience with my dentist last time I was in and I hadn't come back for a while. My wife goes to the same dentist and they talked about why I hadn't been back. Well the dentist said they would give or prescribe me some valium to help my anxiety for when I come in if that would help. So dentists themselves do this to help peoples experiences at the dentist.
 
I have an anecdotal answer. I had a bad experience with my dentist last time I was in and I hadn't come back for a while. My wife goes to the same dentist and they talked about why I hadn't been back. Well the dentist said they would give or prescribe me some valium to help my anxiety for when I come in if that would help. So dentists themselves do this to help peoples experiences at the dentist.

I have the same problem: I have avoided the dentist for four years but I really need a cavity filled. I don't know the dentist and I'm only 23 but deathy afraid. What are you supposed to do this type if situation as new patient??
 
Blue, 1mg Etiz pills. (1mg if the on-line sales-pitch is to be trusted, but who knows?)
6pm - took one by chewing and allowing to dissolve in mouth, trying to keep under tongue. Tastes very sour & bitter. Stomach empty.
6.30 - feeling a little wobbly & relaxed. Nice enough, but was in a piggish mood. Impatiently had another (2mg total).
7.00 - felt like I had a few strong drinks, but without the downsides. Good mood, poor co-ordination. Fun to walk around & "feel it".
8.30 - still feeling it (good, wobbly), but had another half anyway (2.5 mg)
9.00 - feel asleep! Damn LOL

Had a nice sleep though & only woke a few brief times (which is normal) until my 7am alarm.

Prefer stims & psychadelics. Will keep these for come-downs unless anyone can prove how to get some definite euphoria out of these.
 
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I have an anecdotal answer. I had a bad experience with my dentist last time I was in and I hadn't come back for a while. My wife goes to the same dentist and they talked about why I hadn't been back. Well the dentist said they would give or prescribe me some valium to help my anxiety for when I come in if that would help. So dentists themselves do this to help peoples experiences at the dentist.
Thanks for the reply. I may just chance 3mg of etiz about 3 hours before the operation and see what happens. I'm at a low ebb at the moment anyway, so I may take the risk.
I assume that if valium is okay then maybe etiz will be too; though I know they're hardly the same drug.
Unless there's something about etiz which would make it dangerous unlike valium, I guess.
Hmmm...
Thanks again, man. Much appreciated.

(I'm in the UK, so I'm not sure what the deal is over here with benzos - I know it's extremely restricted - but I guess I won't know until I ask the dentist...)
 
Thanks for the reply. I may just chance 3mg of etiz about 3 hours before the operation and see what happens. I'm at a low ebb at the moment anyway, so I may take the risk.
I assume that if valium is okay then maybe etiz will be too; though I know they're hardly the same drug.
Unless there's something about etiz which would make it dangerous unlike valium, I guess.
Hmmm...
Thanks again, man. Much appreciated.

(I'm in the UK, so I'm not sure what the deal is over here with benzos - I know it's extremely restricted - but I guess I won't know until I ask the dentist...)

It's safe as can be, don't worry. It's very good for anti-anxiety especially for one-off instances such as yours. However i would urge caution doing 3mg if you've never done it before! It's highly likely you could fall asleep before even getting to the dentists chair! Do not drive to the dentists if you've taken 3mg! I'd just take 1mg or get to the dentists early (30 mins to one hour) and drop 2mg. It will most certainly take the edge off the anxiety for you.
 
Whats an overdose with etizolam? I have never taken more than 3mg of alprazolam (usually I took 1-2mg to sleep) and it always nicely sedated me and let me sleep like a baby. I've been taking 2mg doses of etizolam and it gives me that same relaxing anxiolytic effects as alprazolam but it won't let me sleep through the night. I end up waking up every 2 hours. As a result, I have ot keep taking 2mg every time I wake up so I end up taking around 6mg by the end of the night.

I'm gonna try taking a high dose tonight instead of a low one to see if it knocks me out for the night. I took 4mg. I don't feel sleep yet unfortunately. Whats the maximum safe dosage one can take? I heard of people taking 6mg. I've been taking 2mg, I fall sleep then wake up 2 hours later so take another 2mg. I end up using 6mg per night and only manage 5 hours sleep. With xanax, 1-2mg will keep me asleep for 8 hours. Anyone else here use etizolam as a post stimulant hypnotic? Have you found any ways to make it give you a full nights sleep? I'm looking into other routes of administration but oral is the slowest one I know of. I could wrap them in some kinda slow release material but I'd still be using 6-8 mg per night.
 
a short while back I used ten etilaam etizolam pills over a seven day period, to begin with i found that two would relax me, similar to a few drinks.
Towards the end of the week however, i became very agitated and quite aggressive after i had taken them ( bearing in mind i am usually a very placid and laid back person).

Is this a common effect?
My main area of interest falls into dissociatives and psychedelics and i have found my eti experiments have left me baffled.
 
a short while back I used ten etilaam etizolam pills over a seven day period, to begin with i found that two would relax me, similar to a few drinks.
Towards the end of the week however, i became very agitated and quite aggressive after i had taken them ( bearing in mind i am usually a very placid and laid back person).

Is this a common effect?
My main area of interest falls into dissociatives and psychedelics and i have found my eti experiments have left me baffled.

Were you tired at all? I think overdoing them and staying awake and not getting sleep can cause that. I had a anxious event and took more than usual but had to stay awake it made me a bit snappy later in the day. I also put the eye flicker thing down to this.

Mycotheologist - tolerance will build very fast if you take a high dosage and your body will become used to it. Initially though I would suggest very high amounts would cause excessive sleep, memory loss even to the extent of losing a few days. I would not recommend that at all.
 
En2Tuk : "Were you tired at all? I think overdoing them and staying awake and not getting sleep can cause that. I had a anxious event and took more than usual but had to stay awake it made me a bit snappy later in the day. I also put the eye flicker thing down to this."

thanks for your reply :)
It was a while back but i'm fairly sure my sleeping pattern was intact.

Maybe i just dont react well to benzos and the like.

I was pretty awful, at one point i screamed at somebody and stormed out of the room crying. not like me at all, quite embarrassing actually
 
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Mycotheologist - tolerance will build very fast if you take a high dosage and your body will become used to it. Initially though I would suggest very high amounts would cause excessive sleep, memory loss even to the extent of losing a few days. I would not recommend that at all.

What is a high dose? Last night I took 5mg before bedtime but I only slept about 5 hours which pisses me off because I was aiming for 8. I got pellets from a headshop maybe they are not really 1mg. They are pretty sedating though, 2mg feels like 2mg of xanax. With xanax, I've never had to take more than 2mg to get a good nights sleep though.

En2Tuk : "Were you tired at all? I think overdoing them and staying awake and not getting sleep can cause that. I had a anxious event and took more than usual but had to stay awake it made me a bit snappy later in the day. I also put the eye flicker thing down to this."
According to the wiki page eye flickering is one of the side effects.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blepharospasm
 
I think there's something wrong with me. I'm so envious of all these posters claiming that 2mg gets them nicely sedated. I'm not dick-sizing here, but i need at least 10mg, preferably more like 15, in order to feel good. And that's with no tolerance. Am I the only one who needs a lot of this stuff to feel any effects? And yes, I get Intas Etilaam.
 
Don't worry, many would not like to be in your shoes anyway (respectfully)

Oh believe me I realise that. It's a real waste of money. There's a certain machismo associated with being able to handle your drink and drugs; it's absurd, and serves no benefit. You spend more, you fuck your body up more...it's shitty.

I really don't understand my high tolerance to benzos. The first time I took valium I needed 70mg to get an effect. It's just such a shame I like these drugs so much!
 
What is a high dose? Last night I took 5mg before bedtime but I only slept about 5 hours which pisses me off because I was aiming for 8. I got pellets from a headshop maybe they are not really 1mg. They are pretty sedating though, 2mg feels like 2mg of xanax. With xanax, I've never had to take more than 2mg to get a good nights sleep though.

I use it mainly for insomnia but still can't get past waking up after 5 hours even with Etizolam. However the most I've done is 2mg before bed (I don't do higher as take it daily and don't want tolerance) I simply redose 1mg when I wake up and it puts me asleep again. I do 1mg at night (to put me to sleep) then 1mg when I wake up after the 5 hours or so to get a couple more hours in. Only occasionally will I take another 1mg if I have a stressful event during the day for the anti-anxiety element. I think it's a brilliant sleep aid but doesn't induce sleep. (at low levels dose) Are you saying Xanax is better for sleep? (i've never taken it). A high dose of Etiz I would consider anything over 3mg.
 
you can order benzo's online w/o a script?

Yes. But though black/grey market methods, and thats about where the line is drawn as far as specificity of discussion of said subject on BL per the user agreement.


Whats an overdose with etizolam?

If your talking about LD50 or a lethal overdose, alone not combined with other drugs, benzodiazepines have an extremely large ed50/ld50 ratio. Basically you could take a massive "overdose", and it wouldn't be lethal with pretty much any benzo alone not combined with other drugs. Not impossible, but its probably somewhere in the hundred milligram range or more.


In mice, its something like a couple hundred md/kg for diazepam and alprazolam. From a quick google search, i found 3070mg/kg orally in mice for etizolam. Usually those values are higher in humans, but impossible to determine as we don't overdose populations of humans intentionally to determine lethal doses of said drugs. Though its an interesting idea for a voluntary program for inmates on deathrow =D.

Basically, taken alone not in conjunction with other drugs, i'd say its pretty much impossible to overdose on etizolam. Unless you have access to hundred gram+ quantity's of it, and can get that much down. Don't let that be a rationalization for abuse/overuse though. What they lack in ld50, they more than make up for in fatal/severe physical complications of rapid discontinuation in individuals with very large tolerances. IE the drug won't kill you, the withdrawal complications will, or at least make it a medical emergency as far as seizures if you aren't deep enough in an addiction/tolerance to be at the threshold where cold turkey w/d's would cause fatal complications, like seizures.

So overdose is not really a factor with benzos taken alone, but they more than make up for that benefit in the physical complications of rapid cessation of use with a large tolerance/chronic habit. That and their lack of significant toxicity is what makes them superior to other gabergics like alcohol, with a ld50/ed50 ratio of like 3:1. 1 getting you smashed (amount depends on individual), 3x that usually is lethal for 50% of an animal population. Alcohol cessation though, is prob just as dangerous or more with a large/chronic habit compared to benzos.

Yet alcohol is legal otc. Perhaps the physical side affects factor into that though. Hangover, toxicity to liver, bad for you in large quantity's in general, make them harder to abuse. Benzo's don't really do any of that, so its easy to let your tolerance/habit climb, and think everything is just fucking dandy so long as you have access to them. Once you don't though, your completely fucked, and need to get to an emergency room asap if you have a serious tolerance/chronic habit. But that holds true for most potent gabergics, legal or not.
 
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Another problem with taking a lot of benzos is that you may black out and do stupid shit that you'll regret (or even injure yourself). This happens much faster/easier than actually dying from a benzo over dose.

I think it's a brilliant sleep aid but doesn't induce sleep. (at low levels dose) Are you saying Xanax is better for sleep? (i've never taken it). A high dose of Etiz I would consider anything over 3mg.
For me even high doses won't just knock me out if I don't want to fall asleep. It'll make falling asleep much easier, but if I don't want to sleep I can stay awake (ok, maybe if I took 100mg or somethink like that it would knock me out, but I'm not going to do something that stupid).
Only two things actually knock me out with the right dose - alcohol (shitty sleep, wake up with a hangover) and ghb (great sleep, wake up feeling great, unfortunately illegal).
 
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