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Benzos Etizolam Mega Thread v1

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Coraline said:
I like Valium. It has a long half life 100hrs. It builds up in your system a little and it works great for anxiety, insomnia, nerve pain, muscle relaxation and it works great for me. I take 5mg twice a day. I use it sublingually and it has a fast on set and relaxes my thoughts and body.

Valium is also used for alcohol detox.
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Oh..k. Thanks for reply! Do you think Valium has some good to it that Etizolam does not, or other way around? I mean if you could choose.. Valium or Etizolam then, and why? Any situation either would work, where the other wouldnt work at all, or not as good, for?

I don't like the thought of it "building up in my system", and it having such a long halflife.. that's a bad thing unless you're planning to be using this drug continously/over long periods, isnt it?
I mean if Im using it just for stim-comedown, it seems like a bad thing to have these drugs stuck in my system for that long, even if weak, many days after I dont need it anymore.
So is there a similarly mild/benign benzo with similar/identic effect, just with much shorter halflife?

Valium seems like a very common, well-known "standard"/"universal"/all-round benzo. Think Valium would be the best choise for an occasional/inexperienced user's stim comedowns?

I thought Etizolam was "almost the same" (or very similar, atleast in apparent effect(?)) as Valium, without any complex science-talk - any idea what the difference really is.. anything worth caring about, or should I be OK using Etizolam assuming its pretty much the same as Valium?

Any reason to prefer Valium over Etizolam? Because its more well-known/common,...any other reason?

For me Etizoam is #1 simply because of its legal status. But if theres much advantage to an other pill I will look into that.
Seems benzos can be some very serious things and I wanna be very careful and modest with.. as theyre so similar in some ways, Im hoping to find one type that fits all of what I may possibly need for (mostly just stim-comedown, possibly never anythign else.. dunno.) while still being safe and a pill with lots of info on so I know what Im getting into/riscing, more easy to get help if it goes bad etc.. Valium being so normal seems like a good choise.
Things like 100hrs halflife seems a bit discouraging tho.. but Valium may be the most safe, benign benzo there is, and other pills are just worse in other ways?
Do you know if that 100hr halflife is similar with Etizolam,ifnot what is halflife then?


Would be awesome if Etizolam turned out to be all I would ever need, and something very safe and good. Would almost be too good to be true , lol, as its LEGAL!! (atleast where I am). And thats ofc. a major upside...
afraid its not as good as I think tho, but I have no idea..hopefully wrong, as I would hope and be assured a safe comedown then once I have found and settled/decided on a benzo to use, and stick with!
 
40713 said:
Oh..k. Thanks for reply! Do you think Valium has some good to it that Etizolam does not, or other way around? I mean if you could choose.. Valium or Etizolam then, and why? Any situation either would work, where the other wouldnt work at all, or not as good, for?

I don't like the thought of it "building up in my system", and it having such a long halflife.. that's a bad thing unless you're planning to be using this drug continously/over long periods, isnt it?
I mean if Im using it just for stim-comedown, it seems like a bad thing to have these drugs stuck in my system for that long, even if weak, many days after I dont need it anymore.
So is there a similarly mild/benign benzo with similar/identic effect, just with much shorter halflife?

Valium seems like a very common, well-known "standard"/"universal"/all-round benzo. Think Valium would be the best choise for an occasional/inexperienced user's stim comedowns?

I thought Etizolam was "almost the same" (or very similar, atleast in apparent effect(?)) as Valium, without any complex science-talk - any idea what the difference really is.. anything worth caring about, or should I be OK using Etizolam assuming its pretty much the same as Valium?

Any reason to prefer Valium over Etizolam? Because its more well-known/common,...any other reason?

For me Etizoam is #1 simply because of its legal status. But if theres much advantage to an other pill I will look into that.
Seems benzos can be some very serious things and I wanna be very careful and modest with.. as theyre so similar in some ways, Im hoping to find one type that fits all of what I may possibly need for (mostly just stim-comedown, possibly never anythign else.. dunno.) while still being safe and a pill with lots of info on so I know what Im getting into/riscing, more easy to get help if it goes bad etc.. Valium being so normal seems like a good choise.
Things like 100hrs halflife seems a bit discouraging tho.. but Valium may be the most safe, benign benzo there is, and other pills are just worse in other ways?
Do you know if that 100hr halflife is similar with Etizolam,ifnot what is halflife then?


Would be awesome if Etizolam turned out to be all I would ever need, and something very safe and good. Would almost be too good to be true , lol, as its LEGAL!! (atleast where I am). And thats ofc. a major upside...
afraid its not as good as I think tho, but I have no idea..hopefully wrong, as I would hope and be assured a safe comedown then once I have found and settled/decided on a benzo to use, and stick with!
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Valium/Diazepam is not similar to Etizolam much at all. Etizolam has a much shorter half life and is more similar to that of Xanax/Alprazolam. The thing about short acting Benzodiazepines is that if you are dependent on them, then they suck because you will get a lot of rebound anxiety/insomnia and also have to dose them more frequently. Valium (Diazepam) lasts longer than Etizolam, and has a much longer half life.

If you are just an occasional Benzo user, than shorter acting Benzo's are probably good and suited for you, but if it becomes an everyday thing, then yes you will build tolerance extremely fast to Benzo's like Etizolam & Xanax, and the withdrawal from those is fucking HELL.

If you are not used to Benzo's at all, and have very little tolerance, than Diazepam might not be the best choice since you will probably still feel the effects into the next day. For me, since I am on a taper with Diazepam (Valium), it is a godsend. My Benzo tolerance is through the roof (not dicksizing), but just pointing out that you DO NOT WANT a Benzo Dependence. If you choose to go with a short acting Benzo like Lorazepam (Ativan), Alprazolam (Xanax), or Etizolam, than try and keep it to small dosages, and not use everyday, ONLY when you absolutely NEED them.

Etizolam has more hypnotic properties to it than Alprazolam and all of the above benzo's I listed IMO. So if I wanted a Benzodiazepine for sleep, I would probably choose Etizolam, even technically it is not a 'true' benzodiazepine because of the benzene ring has been replaced by a thiophene ring. So Etizolam is in the class of Benzodiazepines analogs called thienodiazepines.

Hope this helps. Cheers and good luck mate.

EDIT: Sorry what I meant to say when I said "If you choose to go with a short acting Benzo like Lorazepam (Ativan), Alprazolam (Xanax), or Etizolam, than try and keep it to small dosages, and not use everyday, ONLY when you absolutely NEED them. " I meant to say that Lorazepam (Ativan) is more of an Intermediate acting Benzo, lasts longer than Alprazolam and Etizolam, and has a longer half life than those two.
 
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Supeudol said:
Valium/Diazepam is not similar to Etizolam much at all. [...]
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Great info, thanks alot!

wrote down those other benzo-names for more looking into later, but seems Etizolam may be exactly what I need so I prolly wont look all that much into these others then.. seems to fit perfect for me. I think I did feel a bit slow/weak the day after Etizolam tho, but guess there'll always be a little tail/aftereffect on these things and anyway is a low price to pay for its helpful effect when its really needed, if this is already a very shortlasting one. Anyway, seems to be a really good one, Etizolam it is then!=)

And thx for another warning against benzos, heard this some times now so it's made me very nervous/scared of it that way, making me even more careful with doses etc. to avoid issues. Will keep that way as best I can then and be very careful with doses and all, and build my way up when dosing then instead of taking a bigger dose to be assured effect as I first wanted. It just seems so tempting with an easy fix as benzos are, the drug seems so "friendly".. Scarily deceptive with all the bad people say about abuse of it it seems.. scary stuff.. will try keep my safe distance and use & respect this drug well, thx again!
 
-Guido- said:
Etillams in the blister pack are the way to go. You don't know what you are getting in the pills are loose in a bag or a powder.
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As far as powder etiz goes, it depends on the seller's track record, from my experience. Powder is certainly the cheaper way to go, but it's also very easy to cut.

spacejunk said:
i'm a bit freaked out by etizolam now since my last dose resulted in a week and a half of blepharospasms ( eyelid twitch).
my bottom right eyelid twitched uncontrollably many times a day, and it was lasting for so long i was worried it might be permanent.

it was a really annoying feeling, and unlike anything similar i've experienced before (a twitching nerve in my eyelid) - this twitch was actually visible to other people. freaky, and very, very annoying. it started driving me a little crazy.

this is my first real "oh shit, what have i done to myself?" scare with research chems. i'm starting to think that low dose phenazepam might not be such a bad alternative to this kind of thing...
play safe, kids.
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What makes you think that low dose phenazepam would be the better option? Phenazepam blacks the out for at least a couple days (at least), every time I use it. It is such a dirty benzo.

laCster said:
thanks albion :)



straight, thanks for the reply!

i have a question though, how does the liquid stay in the needleless syringe?? like do you have to keep it turned upside down?? stupid question i kno lol
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The same way liquid stays in a syringe with a needle on it.
Also, at many pharmacies, oral syringes are sold on the shelves with everything else. There is usually no need to ask a pharmacist to hand one over the counter.
 
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40713 said:
Pls advise on the 2mg Etizolam ,is it a good thing to get the 2mg-version for a new user with no tolerance for occasional use, or is 1mg more than enough even? Seems more convenient to just use the 2mg, to be sure you get good and proper effect from the first pill?
Ive used Etizolam some times before but dont know much about it, or much about benzos at all..

Also, Im looking for 1 universal benzo that works for most (of what benzos is usually for), so that I only need that 1 type- and hope to stack up much of it, Im about to aquire some much needed benzos now very soon. Is Etizolam a good choise for this, or is Xanax or Valium much better in other ways?

If Im just using it for stim comedowns, think Etizolam should be all I need or could any other benzos be even better in some ways?
Any major downs to Etizolam vs other (real-?) benzos?

Also.. any idea approx when occasional use can become too often (cause withdrawals/issues?)-- like, is 1mg 3 days a week too much, or is even daily use one week ok if then abstaining the following week? Wondering what frequency of use would be getting in the dangerzone.

Sorry if this has been asked before

Thx anyway!
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Hey bro, to me, etizolam is the best "universal" benzo as you describe it. I have experience with valium, xanax, ativan, lormetazepam and a few other common ones.

- calms me down but doesn't make me sloppy like valium and xanax do.
- doesn't make me feel as tired as v and x do.
- doesn't make me do crazy shit and black out on it. I often wake up after a night of xanax only to notice I've been calling old friends all night long. Never happened to me on etizolam.
- no after affects when I wake up. When I do valium, I have to make sure to take them at least 12 hours prior to waking up, otherwise I'm still sloppy when I wake up. Not a prob on etizolam.

Etizolam, or any other benzo for that matter, is rather weak for me for stim comedowns. Etizolam + alcohol is the way to go. Although this might not be very safe advice if you're a noob on this matter.

As for withdrawals: I have used it for 3 weeks every night 2 mg. No withdrawals, although that was pushing it, I reckon.
 
I love etizolam for anxiety. It can be eurphoric before it makes me sleepy as hell (if I take 2 mg or more). I have tried the Inta Blister pack type. I agree that it is less useful for comedowns but it's a good alternative to nothing lol. I haven't had that many "eurphoric" experiences with benzos (xanax, klonopin) but I know my friends love xanax highs. I also agree that it is less sloppy than waking up after a night of a lot of xanax or klonopin.

Does anyone know of any good (possible US) vendors for it? It seems like a lot of vendors are not carrying it anymore...please message me thanks!
 
i personally got much more 'recreational' effect from "etilaam" brand then the supposed "sedekopan"
they both serve their purpose of anti-anxiety and comedown aid

etizolam is great for my insomnia at 3mg doses
at lower doses great as a subtle social boost

i prefer it over klonopin, i think xanax is more 'recreational' in terms of effects per mg

(with alcohol usually)
 
Not touched etiz for a couple of weeks. I do believe I deserve a little dip of the thumb and forefinger this eve, and a couple glasses of white :)
 
How likely is it for etizolam to get banned ? Because I'd like to know in advance so I can order a lifetime supply of it. :D
Probably not anytime soon since the government won't bother with it as long as people haven't died from it, amirite?
 
Was thinking of trying an occasional Etiz for stimulant comedowns. I have one major question: is it ANYTHING similar to phenazepam? Because if so, fuck that. Hard.

I've taken Xanax, Ativan and other benzos but phenazepam was a different ballgame. I get no euphoric/recreational effects from benzos so the etiz would only be for occasional use.
 
Lady Codone said:
Was thinking of trying an occasional Etiz for stimulant comedowns. I have one major question: is it ANYTHING similar to phenazepam? Because if so, fuck that. Hard.

I've taken Xanax, Ativan and other benzos but phenazepam was a different ballgame. I get no euphoric/recreational effects from benzos so the etiz would only be for occasional use.
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I have not taken phenazepam (seems just way too dangerous), but from all that I have read about it I would say no. I guess if I really had to describe etiziolam I would say it feels like a short acting diazepam. I'd think it would work fine for stim comedowns.
 
Phenazepam is awesome, but I never see it for sale in blotter or tablet form anymore, or even a liquid PG solution anymore of it. Phenazepam works good for benzo tapers as well because of the long 60 hours + half life.
 
Etizolam is nice, my second favourite drug (the first being ghb, damn I wish that was legally available). But for me it's best when used in moderation (1-3mg). The effects aren't as obvious, but you also don't do stupid shit.
 
Considering ordering 40mg to test it out. I'd be receiving it as powder not tablets, so I'm wondering how I could properly measure this out. I usually use my .00mg scale for MXE. I have a high tolerance, so the extra .0 is not an issue. However, this stuff is active as such a low mg range, I'm wondering what to do. I can't make a liquid solution either, for various reasons including house hold members and family being around, wouldn't be able to acquire the required materials. Besides that, I simply have no interest in making it into liquid doses.

How should I dose this? Ideally, I'd like to make doses of 1 to 2mg each so I can easily take when I want. If all I have is pure powder, with such a small tiny grain being a standard dose, what would be a good way to make them easy to take? I was thinking capsules, mixing it with sugar to fill up the cap then swallowing when I wanted. It's not the greatest idea, but it's a thought.
 
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