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Benzos Etizolam Mega Thread v1

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I have never had problems with etizolam after any kind of stimulating drug, I don't know about modafinil specifically though.
Are there known stimulants with which etizolam should not be used?

After introducing friends to etizolam I have been going through mine quickly. Will probably order a gram and dissolve it in propylene glycol. Am I safe in the assumption that it can be stored in room temperature like this for at least a month or 2 without real loss in potency?
 
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I guess if other stimulant drugs are okay it would be alright? I took the other 200mg and feel a bit too edgy/ anxious/ heart racey. I guess one mg of etizolam would be okay to level me out?
 
That shouldn't be a problem. Just don't make a habit out of it. Speaking of habit:

A good friend I introduced to Etiz a while ago apparently started taking them every second day regardless of my warnings. And in pretty high doses too. Like 8mg over the course of a day and this for about 3 weeks. I feel really bad now for showing him the substance :/
Now despite the short halflife (and diminished cumulation properties) I think this will definitely lead to physical addiction and would appreciate it if someone with the proper knowledge could confirm my theory and maybe contribute so I can show him this because he is stubborn and just won't listen.

Thanks in advance.
 
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That shouldn't be a problem. Just don't make a habit out of it. Speaking of habit:

A good friend I introduced to Etiz a while ago apparently started taking them every second day regardless of my warnings. And in pretty high doses too. Like 8mg over the course of a day and this for about 3 weeks. I feel really bad now for showing him the substance :/
Now despite the short halflife (and diminished cumulation properties) I think this will definitely lead to physical addiction and would appreciate it if someone with the proper knowledge could confirm my theory and maybe contribute so I can show him this because he is stubborn and just won't listen.

Thanks in advance.

Yeah, screw that, I would never do that on a regular basis. Saying that, as a one off it really helped me get through my day. I felt a bit of a nervous reck going to work, but took a 1mg or two over the day and felt pretty damn good.

Sounds like your friend is in a crazy binge mode. Don't blame yourself.. these things are getting more and more popular, popping up in headshops and rc sites. You warned him of the dangers, it's a shame he didn't listen. I understand why though, at first etizolam feels like a god send.

Do you know why is he taking them? Just for recreational purposes or perhaps helping him with anxiety/ insomnia? Regardless, you're right, if he keeps going at this rate he risks physical and psychological addiction. His tolerance will just get increasingly high and he may start to experience negative effects such as problems with memory, co-ordination, feeling "slow" and groggy, blackouts, headaches, mood swings, as well as long term problems and going through benzo-like withdrawal symptoms (rebound insomnia, increased anxiety and more).

He needs to realise that etizolam is great only used in moderation. His best bet would be to slowly reduce his intake.
 
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That shouldn't be a problem. Just don't make a habit out of it. Speaking of habit:

A good friend I introduced to Etiz a while ago apparently started taking them every second day regardless of my warnings. And in pretty high doses too. Like 8mg over the course of a day and this for about 3 weeks. I feel really bad now for showing him the substance :/
Now despite the short halflife (and diminished cumulation properties) I think this will definitely lead to physical addiction and would appreciate it if someone with the proper knowledge could confirm my theory and maybe contribute so I can show him this because he is stubborn and just won't listen.

Thanks in advance.

You could also refer him to the benzo w/d protocol-

http://www.benzo.org.uk/manual/

Just to show him how hard/long it can take to taper off an addiction. Just might scare him enough to realize how dangerous what he's doing is, especially with a RC benzo that he may not be able to still/consistently get in the future.

I'd taper off onto valium/phenazepam (only if you know what you are doing, and DO NOT give him multiple dosages, always liquid dose @ 1mg/ml PG concentrations, weigh and do your math twice when mixing up the solution, and work up slowly dosing e/o day starting at 200ug). Valium is prob safer to dose if you can get it. But once again, dose him and hold on to the rest. If he can't realize that benzo abuse is very dangerous, you should talk to him and offer to hold on to the doses so he's not tempted to take more than he needs to taper.
 
Thank you very much guys. I'll try to answer your questions one by one:

kace: He takes them for moderate anxiety and (in that doses) of course, recreational purposes.

daytryptr: I heard of the Ashton manual but luckily never had to get into it in detail. Phenaz would be a desaster in his hands and since he doesn't know (yet) where to get more, I think the best bet would be to let him run out (100mg in ~3-4 weeks) after showing him this prove here that he is playing with a hell of a fire.
Thanks again for your support. This place is really helpful and I am always impressed by the amount of HR which is done on Bluelight :)
 
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would i expect any WD symptoms after taking etizolam the way i have the past 10 days?

day 1 - 1.5mg
day 2 - 0mg
day 3 - 2.5mg
day 4 - 2mg
day 5 - 1mg
day 6 - 1mg
day 7 - 0mg
day 8 - 2mg
day 9 - 1mg
day 10 - 3mg

ive been smoking weed every time i have been using them
 
I love this stuff. It has a much more pronounced anti-depressant effect on me than any prescribed anti-depressant. Which - is quite dangerous, lol.
 
I love this stuff. It has a much more pronounced anti-depressant effect on me than any prescribed anti-depressant. Which - is quite dangerous, lol.

this post had a much more pronounced anti-depressant effect on me,
than any prescribed anti-depressant.
 
would i expect any WD symptoms after taking etizolam the way i have the past 10 days?

day 1 - 1.5mg
day 2 - 0mg
day 3 - 2.5mg
day 4 - 2mg
day 5 - 1mg
day 6 - 1mg
day 7 - 0mg
day 8 - 2mg
day 9 - 1mg
day 10 - 3mg

ive been smoking weed every time i have been using them

Doubt it much. Ive gone longer with bigger doses and im yet to experience Etizolam withdrawal although i do have weed when i go without the Etiz.
 
would i expect any WD symptoms after taking etizolam the way i have the past 10 days?

day 1 - 1.5mg
day 2 - 0mg
day 3 - 2.5mg
day 4 - 2mg
day 5 - 1mg
day 6 - 1mg
day 7 - 0mg
day 8 - 2mg
day 9 - 1mg
day 10 - 3mg

ive been smoking weed every time i have been using them

Have a extra one or two where you can take may .5 at night for 1-3 days? might really help.

However last time I used Etizolam following a week of valium I just tapered .5 before bed for like three days and it really helped. Transitioned to some low dose phenibut for every other day for about 2 days and then had some beers for two nights and was good.
 
I tried etizolam once and it was great. I can't seem to find it anywhere though. :(

It's nice for comedowns.
 
I use them to sleep occasionally when I am running 100mg of Trenbolone. I'm on 50mg of Trenbolone now so they aren't needed. I also have them on hand in case I overdose on Clenbuterol, to slow my heart rate and stop the shakes. I rarely use them because I believe reliance on narctotics is a sign of weakness. That being said, I have been on 100mg of methadone for 3 years after seven years of heroin addiction; I am weak but I refuse to sit by idle. I will rid myself of that weakness soon enough.

Back to the topic at hand- I do see the addictive potential of benzos in the grand scheme of things. They make you forget all your troubles and suppress bad memories. They also are an excellent social lubricant. When I was 21 years of age I had procured some Xanax from my dealer and had taken it prior to going to a social event consisting of friends of the family. All of them being middle aged and very rich. I worked that room amazingly. The hostess came up to me later to comment on what a conversationalist I was and the life I brought to the social event. I was only on 0.50mg at the time with little to no tolerance.

You're still on methadone man? I was at 275mg 4 years ago or so, then switched to bupe, was abusing xanax on and off during that whole course. Then I got off it all and started drinking daily for about year. Then I got back into heroin very hard, (2grams a day) for just under 2 years. I was clean off heroin since last october, but relapsed on 2grams (smoking it non-stop) in less than a 36 hour period.

I bring this up for a couple of reasons:
I now get pure etizolam powder. I was dosing ~20-30mg each day during using the heroin. I ended up even killing a whole bottle of SoCo.

I haven't touched heroin for 3 days now, but I killed another bottle of soco yesterday, and ended up eating easily ~40mg etiz. I realize I have a severe addiction problem with it. Etizolam is perfect for me, if I can keep the dosing low (at like 2mg a day, or every other day, or perhaps that dosage, but 2 days in a row and 3 off?), but we'll see.

It does not black me out actually, unlike alprazolam. I have had Intas and Etilaams, so I know my etiz powder source is the raw deal. I get it way cheaper that way too.

I haven't been using etizolam daily for even a week yet. I think I'm at day 6.

I just can't seem to cope with life without benzos, but they stop working after a while obviously.

I started getting into nootropics.

I now use (daily)
*piracetam
*aniracetam
*choline bitartrate (sometimes switch it up with DMAE)
*B-12
*5-HTP
*Fish oil
*Vitamin D-3 (5000mcg)

The 2 racetams I take, especially the aniracetam seems to have a decent anxiolitic effect, but not enough of one where I still don't feel the need for etizolam.

I recently started working out now though, and I'm guessing this is going to be the thing that ends up really changing the whole ball game for me.

Diet and exercise ftw, ammirite?

I've really been thinking about going back on methadone recently, as suboxone just does not do the trick; but if I manage to do great with the exercise, then fuck the opiates.

-that's all for now.


PS - DO NOT, ANY OF YOU, EVER TAKE THE INSANELY HIGH DOSES OF ETIZOLAM I HAVE BEEN TAKING. YOU WILL DIE. ESPECIALLY WITH THE DRUG COMBOS I TOOK IT WITH.

that's all i have to contribute

EDIT - almost left out, in regards to keeping benzo tolerance at bay and for help in tapering and other reasons... phenibut. It only effects GABA-A(?...or is it GABA-B?), unlike how benzos effect the opposite one. So that being said, there is no cross tolerance. Keep in mind, phenibut is extremely physically addictive from my personal experience.
Just food for thought.
 
would i expect any WD symptoms after taking etizolam the way i have the past 10 days?

day 1 - 1.5mg
day 2 - 0mg
day 3 - 2.5mg
day 4 - 2mg
day 5 - 1mg
day 6 - 1mg
day 7 - 0mg
day 8 - 2mg
day 9 - 1mg
day 10 - 3mg

ive been smoking weed every time i have been using them

its been about 42 hours since my last dose and the only thing was having some bizzare dreams last night and i kept waking up, but other than that, nothing much :)
 
yeah i read these stories of guys taking 8 mgs and beyond to get a buzz off etizolam and i think they are just ruining it for themselves..sure, they feel great now but down the road their tolerance goes up and they will need 20 mgs just to feel anything, then addiction is very possible..plus, once u get that high it seems like it would get somewhat expensive..
 
^It's pontless. Once I get things done that I have to get done this week out in the world, I will start a rapid taper. Actually I'll start with a 1-2 day complete cut-off. The withdrawals are bearable with the drugs and amounts of them I've been physically addicted to in the past. The problem with etiz and me started right before I relapsed on H, just after I relapsed on meth.. Both were one instance (well, multiple day runs non-stop on each, but one go if you will), and it was essentially the same with when I got alcohol recently, as well as cigs, as I only use ecigs now, so it was really out of my normal character, in how I will to act and not act nowadays.

It's a number of things, but simply put, with the etiz, I enjoyed the initial buzz too much so I kept pushing it. It's a really great anxiolitic, but to keep chasing the knockout power of it?.. ya wow that is just retarded, and I am testament to it.

I was RX'd 16mg of clonazepam daily a number of years ago, and have developed mild epilepsy from being forced off it by the doctor who RXd me them (he just wanted to cover his ass, that prick, because he didn't want the DEA saying he was RXing too much of this and that, so I end up with epilepsy), so started taking keppra for a couple of years. I've been weaning of that recently, and am almost fully off, because it just changes my mood and mode of thinking WAY too much. It makes me rage harder than a mailman gone postal, etc, and for no reason at all. I will forget where I am, what I just said, etc.. all sounds like crazy benzo withdrawals and abuse huh?.. well it's not, it was the keppra. And now that I'm almost completely off of it, I can start to work on (back to thread topic), stop fucking the shit around with etizolam, like it's my girlfriend.

Honestly, if you're looking for true escape, get heroin or alcohol, and I certainly don't suggest doing either. I'm just saying, etizolam will end up putting you in such a bad spot, that withdrawals aside, I would rather be on the other 2 right now. Maybe I'm exaggerating the last part a bit, but that's only because I can truly say from first hand experience, just how horrible acute and post acute benzo withdrawals are. The worst parts: depersonalization, and derealization. Ya, quit while you're ahead people.

Lastly (and this goes against everything I was just saying, I guess) belfort, it's not that expensive of an addiction at all when you buy in bulk from the right people. Too bad all compounds cannot easily be bought pure and in bulk. Think of all the money you'd save! :|

I feel like blowing up a DEA office right now and setting lawn fires all over for known agents, in which the propellant/fuel I'd use, would spell out "HOPE", once lit.
 
WTF you are honestly recommending heroin over etizolam??!to me that is insanity as ive been addicted to heroin and have been taking etizolam on and off for awhile now..with heroin, i felt the mental pull fast but with etiz, i dont feel that addictive pull that opiates have..oh and alcohol is terrible compared to both, the 'high' that is if u can even call it that lol..

i have no idea about buying etizolam powder or the cost of it, i just buy the strips of etiz..its a very affordable habit compared to most drugs..
 
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