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Ethylphenidate first time TR! Snorted aprox 600mg over 14 hours !

SupaZang

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Hi blue light forums!

This is basically one of my first posts, snooped around the forums a lot of information for a good ride!

Male, personality INTP,(think this is kinda useful information for trip reports) hmm 20 years old! (had to think about it for a second) 14 stone ish! probably closer too 15 touching over 6 ft strong build can with my layer of blubber :D(I blame university! long hours, and dominoes! practically next door :D)

I found a story of this 20 year old uni kid wrote on a piece of paper I found in the Labs! and this is what it wrote ;D

WARNING BACKGROUND WAFFLEAGE STARTS HERE(only doing the background as its my first report! skip background waffleage if its not your cuppa tea!)


I Have had experience with the usual suspects!
Weed: will get in a 1/4 - 1 ounce every month or so smoke it quickly then go without for a couple weeks Rinse and repeat!
MDMA: had it a good few times, Cocaine once(2 day period)about 2 grams, 4mmc-mephedrone(probly had like 20 pure grams got a reliable supply when mtgox is working),
LSD:(twice, 300ug first time 360ug second, first time was a hell of a ride might do a TR at sometime :D got notes hanging arround somewhere! Ketamine: lots :) Methoxetamine: Inside out ! been as far as you can go on this drug good stuff! had it before ketamine so was my first dissociative, I highly recommend this with weed and Nos (out of this world !) dxm:once ^want to try this one again! -> had a good night involving dxm salvia weed and Nos! The only time i enjoyed salvia(batshit crazy stuff!!), 2c-E once 35mg ish!,5 and 6 APB STILL LEGAL Wow(good alternative to MDMA:MDMA without the spaceyness, Still a great night to be had) umm starting to think this is not all relevant ! so I shall continue!

So my main experiances are Dissociatives, with a few psychophysics and a handfull of stims. I love dissociatives! love to melt into oblivion with just colours and music! huge tolerance to mxe mild tolerance ket! and they go so well with stims Ket+ Drone = a good funky night ! :D
I dose quite heavy from the start with most drugs for example the LSD first time I took 300ug's and gosh was it 300ug's saw the world as a colourful oil painting 2nd time wasnt as fun, didnt get the visuals (probly due to being fucked night before on ket + mephedrone) got some patterns and the mindfuck but it wasnt any mystical experience

I find it really hard to concentrate at uni so i thought i would try ethylphenidate to help! (not recomended if you can find some other way to give you concentration, i litrialy sit in a lecture and im lisening and before i know it my mind wanders to something else then - snap back into the real world and its almost over ! pain in the ass! I have tried everything changing routine to meditation nothing helped! so I had a search around and saw some reports saying they bash out work well on stims ! (boy does it work!),
my regular stim doseages are like 300mg for mdma-APB, mephedrone I can quite happily rail all night and morning(incredibly moreish):D prefer drone to MDMA and APB due to less of a comedown (generally smoke like 1/4 until I cant tell I'm coming down)


ATTENTION :OK TRIP REPORT STARTS HERE: I wrote this last night while on the drug still

Chemical Arrived today ! 10:30AM to be precise ! I straight away got out a line and snorted by eye what I thought was 50mg(maybe more) and sat and waited :D (been trying to get hold of mephedrone for ages but got my money stuck on mtgox for bitcoins so I couldn't hold out and had to order some of this shit :D)
Baggie weighed 2.6gram when recieved it and this morning it weighed 2gram! i think i went a little over the top in the end!
In total I had 600mg over about 13-14 hours, my original plan was to use it for concentration purposes, but ended up taking at what I would consider recreational levels!

Timeline is going to be somewhat aprox! (as this was written up untill a point in the latter half of the evening)
T+0.10 starting to feel a little stimulation

T+0.30 feeling fine now, got a good stim feel to it sounds like the reports thought it could have been drone on the comeup however it turned out to be purely stimulative less spacey/euphoric!

T+1.00 happy with how it feels going to set off to uni (day in chem labs doing my project!) found the project really un-engaging to this point never felt much for it!
Loaded my bullet sniffer up with aprox 300mg I am guessing ! I think the bullet gives out arround 50mg each time ! (Handy tool if you need to snort out and about) Did a small line before setting off! aprox 20mg ish! (deciding I
really need to get some scales that can do to a mg !this little bump just brought me back to where I was maybe 4/10 - 10 being eyes rolling into the back of your head!

T+1.05 arrived at uni feeling positive ! still stimmed mildly the walk was nice, felt strong, happy and content ! - noticeable clarity of thought!

T+1.20 Feeling good I popped to the toilets after saying hi to the research group, I find with stims like mephedrone as long as pupils are not too big its hardly noticeable! so i re-dosed from my bullet 50mg
at this point I shall add it stings :D (I personally like the feeling) stings as bad as Mephedrone give or take haven't done it since mid summer, I remember my first time with mephedrone still today burned like a motherf***er :) although doesnt anymore its very mild in comparison now to the bonfire of that first time, just get used to it nose nerves probably get damaged over time, its nowhere near as bad as 2C-E now thats takes some grinning and bearing!.!

T+2.00 Feeling proper stimulated at this time maybe 6/10 the feeling isn't as clean as mephedrone, concentration levels really good! I started writing up pseudo code for my project-put my headphones on scribbled through page after page, I
had mental focus! I couldn't believe it I smashed through page after page ! I had a really logical thought progression, was keeping eye on goal and mind racing around all the possibilities, my notes looked fairly different to usual ! I was leaving thoughts areas about bits of the algorithm (was really well structured going to keep to this structure in future :D)

T+2.30 Redosed another 50mg! As the Urge to re dose is there alot like drone except different(will go into it more after later!) bumped me straight back up concentration levels still going strong!

T+3.30 re-dose time this time I had 2 goes on the bullet so 100mg, felt a strong 7/10 after this one ! takes probably 15 mins for the bump to take full effect! The next hour 30 flew by! I CHARGED through the code ! extremely well focused !music sounded good too XX latest album twice in a row because it was so pleasurable! at this point I started to really enjoy the coding i was doing, i hadn't done any coding since Sixth form (which i hated with a passion), OK YES it was just pseudo code but I still enjoyed it :D, and was looking forward to getting it translated into real code too! felt very positive about life in general, and was thinking about how i could get into programming as a job after uni! infact i decided i was going to learn a language in my own time!

T+5:00 I had finished a huge chunk of work at this point ! and had started procrastination, felt extremely social started talking to people on fbook,steam etc telling them how I was enjoying coding and thinking about doing it as a job! realised I hadn't eaten all day, so went and bought some food from the campus shop; couldn't really eat that well even though I knew I was hungry! :( (typical stim stomach effect I get from any stim)I managed to eat some fruit salad (grapes and melon), and half of a smoothie :) went down alright but I also bought a veggie samosa -which didn't go down so well :D took a single bite chewed it for a bit and new it was impossible!

T+5:30 back in labs now ! - felt like I was comming down!big style! - I checked my bullet none zip zulch :D uh oh still was guna be in labs for another few hours ! (untill 7pm it turned out) D:
COMEDOWN: not pleasant ! much worse than drone, I don't experience much comedown on drone at all just slowly to baseline brain feels fried, but left with a pleasant afterglow.

T+6:00 - T+8:00 ish (when I got home ) slowly felt worse and worse! completely scatterbrained! lost any amount of concentration ! just kept clicking on the same things on the desktop over and over again going in cycles between tabs on the browser and my programming app ! I made 0 progress in this period, I was feeling rough! had a few cigarettes to take mind of it slightly !

T+8:00 got home ! and had a line ! cant remember how much at this point I was so scatterbrained (think it was 50mg ish due to the effect it had on me) , the line bumped me up slightly wasnt anywhere near enough ! i decided to leave it for a while i was considering calling it a night and face the comedown !

T+9:00 Feeling at the lowest of low now ! had to skype my parents which was a ordeal ! I was zonked 0 enthusiasm! after the call I decided I was going to ride on through (with some more ofcource!) I put a largish amount onto my mirror split it into separate lines had a couple !

T+10:00-14:00 Kept bumping whenever I felt like I was comming down again ! I was redosing to keep that horrible feeling away, more than because I was enjoying it! Worth noting at this point doseages where happening frequently, could never get back to where I was before ! i was still scatterbrained at this point, but started feeling positive again ! but sure enough I ran out of what I put on the mirror and was feeling alot more positive at this point! I spent the time not really doing much, just browsing BL and the rest of the web !
from then on : The comedown wasn't anywhere near as bad as it was before ! (i dont know how to explain this) now I had a nice satisfying afterglow! wrote most of this trip report in that time was finding it hard to keep a logical progression in the writing of this trip-report, I had to change it a lot this morning!

Sleep was impossible! I didn't have any weed left :( didn't order in any benzo's either - big mistake! i lay in bed from about 5:am-10:am, I didn't feel bad or anything, just couldn't drop off, eyes felt wide awake etc!
I don't think I shall be taking this again before I pick up some weed for the end of the day !

Thoughts and Conclusions:
-NOT A DRONE REPLACEMENT! quite simply not as pleasant as drone !
-I dosed too high throughout the day!? I think if I dosed less in the afternoon I wouldn't have had the horrible crash?
-Physical effects - quite minimal throughout the day! minor sweating after dose was administered
-Need something to get you to sleep at end of day ! this seems quite consistent with reports I have read on this substance !
-Maybe I will try dosing smaller next time ! might be able to avoid the comedown? also I feel I did a long stretch on this substance! (properly past its optimal usage time)
-Or I was doing too much intense work which could have explained the first comedown !
-I would say overall it was a positive experience and will dabble in it again(soon) ! (still got 1.4 grams left) i think i will try more controlled doses stick to sub 50mg lines ! and not start so early in the day!

So i hope you/somone finds this useful =] feel free to ask questions!
 
EPH does have the worst crash i could possibly imagine, especially if you binge with it.

i think your doses are super high or your EPH isn't very potent. 10-20mg lines are more than enough to get me very tweaked. I would redose every 30-45 minutes too, so would usually end up snorting 100-150mg per night. I don't recommend doing this though, many times i ended up staring out the window watching the shadow people in complete fear they were going to break in to my apartment.

smaller doses and waiting plenty of time in between doses will help the comedown. There's really nothing you can do to get rid of it though, except some z-drugs and benzos. I would refuse to take EPH without them. Make sure to eat and stay hydrated though, that will definitely make the come down more bearable.
 
ethylphenidate is simply a horrible overall experience. caustic, anxiety inducing, no real high other than mild good mood followed by a shitty crash. one of those drugs that should not be around. if they made it illegal you'd never see a black market for it
 
Very good report. Just made it clear to me this drug shall never enter my body!
 
I must of have used at least 500 mg in a 12 hour period, the worst part about my using it was my eyes were watering like crazy and will not stop,and I insufflated all of.Every one on here talks it burning there nose,it dont burn mine one bit,Its the constant eye watering that I find the most irritating so far,maybe I got some of the residue in my eyes.I am high as I am writing this now,I already rinsed my eyes out with water once and I did it again.I got a headache,and I still feel wired as I redosed an unknown amount an hour and a half ago.it is now 3:57 in the morning and I have to be at work at 6Pm.but I got some Xanax so that will help.Yep I knew it,my eyes were watering because I got trace amounts of residue in my eyes because they stopped watering now,I am so stupid.at least it was not more than trace residue,I don't even want to think of what would happen.My jaw wants to clench a lot.I feel slightly nauseated.i might redose in a couple minuets,but I am not sure.I don't want too stay up all night.But I got 30 Xanax left,I start a new job tomorrow so I better not.I am not going too redose until I get some sleep which probably won't be hours from now.
 
I disagree.

Orally, 10mg doses can be used much like methylphenidate as a functional stimulant. Personally I think amphetamine is better, or a time-release MPH product. However, if you've been up all night and the amphetamine is no longer producing a state of clarity and you have an exam in 2 hours you've been cramming for, 10-20mg EPH orally 20 minutes before the test will do you just fine. There is a comedown, and yes it does suck, but I found it no worse than MPH or cocaine.
 
Well EPH is an NDRI so think things like MPH (of course), MDPV, Pyrovalerone, a-PVP, and to a lesser extent Cocaine more than something like Mephedrone, which has a strong effect on serotonin too.

Wasn't ever designed to be a Mephedrone replacement and any places marketing it as such would be really thinking along the wrong lines.

600mg is a huge amount to consume in such a small period. I would use approximately 100mg or less over a night where with Mephedrone for example I'd use at least 500mg. It's no surprise you had such a horrible crash. After reasonable amounts the crash is very much bearable, one of the easier NDRIs to handle on the comedown, though like all NDRIs it becomes very quickly quite horrible when you start upping the amounts.

If you use it again stick to lower doses, I know you wanted to replicate Mephedrone so I can understand why your amounts got so high, you were trying to reach that level of euphoria you reached with 4-MMC, but this substance simply has a different mechanism of action and so pushing higher dosages won't achieve this. This is a great functional stimulant at low oral doses though, and a nice recreational one at slightly higher oral doses or low insufflated doses (I'd advise oral though, this stuff is horrible for the nose). :)

Thanks for posting up the report!
 
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