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Ether-Effects and such
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Jimity
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/Raises hand.
Trust me. It isnt that great. We got some ether from uni once just to try it. You know. One more thing to tick off that ever decreasing list. Its kind of like VERY strong amyl that makes you really zone out. You know its shit, but you want more.
There is no better feeling then when someone takes the ether away so you cant get it.
Then you get an awful headache the next day.
I'm pretty sure it can brain your damage too.
To quote the man: "There is nothing in the world more helpless and irresponsible and depraved than a man in the depths of an ether binge..."
Trust me. It isnt that great. We got some ether from uni once just to try it. You know. One more thing to tick off that ever decreasing list. Its kind of like VERY strong amyl that makes you really zone out. You know its shit, but you want more.
There is no better feeling then when someone takes the ether away so you cant get it.
Then you get an awful headache the next day.
I'm pretty sure it can brain your damage too.
To quote the man: "There is nothing in the world more helpless and irresponsible and depraved than a man in the depths of an ether binge..."
Baker
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Jimity said:
YAY, I agree too, its almost like you can feel them dying.
I actually really enjoyed it, really hard to keep away... worse then nangs
oh and it feels a lot like nangs IMO, just lasts, longer, cheaper and leaves you smelling like a hospital or something fucked up...
BTW it was pharmecutical grade that I had so don't start up your bitching anyone
Anyway, something you want to cross off your list and leave it crossed off, trust me you shouldn't return to the depths of an ether binge, think nangs, but easier, cheaper and smellier to pull off and you got ether
(and of course, worse for your health)
charlesbronson
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For those looking for information on recreational use of diethyl ether, the two responses above are of pretty poor quality and of little value. Forgive me if I come across like a wanker (considering that noone really even requested to know anything other than who has tried ether here), but seriously....reliable information is important.
If you want information and you can't be bothered sifting around the internet (or readingly my annoyingly long posts), just use Erowid - it really is a fantastic and useful resource, and the ether vault will serve as a good introduction to the substance for those who don't know much about it:
Erowid Ether Vault
1. You shouldn't say ' "you" get an awful headache '; perhaps in your experience, you suffered from a headache after use, the following day, whatever - but that is NOT to say that someone who uses ether will necessarily suffer from a headache at all. My diethyl ether experiences resulted in no headache. Please don't generalise when describing your own experiences; by all means report your experience, but do not claim to know anything more than the subjective qualities of your experience unless you have evidence to support further claims; otherwise you become a master of misinformation.
2. Please provide evidence to support your claim. I have not seen any evidence that shows that pure reagent/pharmaceutical grade diethyl ether inhalation can 'damage' the brain. And in providing such evidence, please also specify what 'damage' it is that you are referring to.
Feel what dying? Brain cells? Which ones? In what region? How do they die? What study did you read/commission/conduct/fund that led you to this conclusion? Because I have done a small amount of research on diethyl ether and your and Jimity's claims about brain damage from 99%+ diethyl ether seem to be nothing more than bullshit.
And your obvious bias toward nitrous oxide over ether does not equip you with the tools you need to conclude that it is worse for your health. Evidence, friends, evidence - you may well be right, and damn I'm sure as shit willing to concede, but as long as you can back up what you are saying.
Because it shits me to come on here and read things, and then imagine how many more people are reading them, and then to see these opinions and beliefs expressed as solid conclusions or as definite facts - how misleading! If you discuss a drug, be it one that 50% of the population uses, or one that very few people have even tried, keep the discussion up to standard and don't let bullshit infiltrate.
Now I am quite certain that direct physiological damage does not result from reagent (uncontaminated) ether inhalation. This is based on the knowledge that poorer countries around the world still use diethyl ether in anesthesia because of its low cost - throughout the African continent, for instance. There are reasons for ether being phased out of use in anesthesia in most of the world though, and they are mostly due to its dangerous physical properties - see below.
If you are contemplating using ether, please put your health first and make sure you have access to reagent grade ether - don't buy some commercial hardware store preparation that has 2% diethyl ether and however many other chemicals (carcinogens, poisons etc.) that you really do not want to be inhaling if you are concerned about your health.
The main danger with ether arises from careless handling of a substance that is classed as Extremely Flammable - it really ignites like crazy, and explosions due to ether liquid and vapour catching fire are a very common occurrence if appropriate handling/storage guidelines are not adhered to. Combined with extreme flammability is its high vapour pressure and high relative density - this means that ether vapours can flow out of the ether container (e.g. a cup) and travel along a surface to an ignition source - in a laboratory this is usually a Bunsen burner, but may also be an appliance which produces a spark etc. If the vapour is ignited, the stream of vapour will flash back to the container of ether and the liquid will violently combust or explode. So you can imagine the trouble with storing jugs of this juice in hospitals for anesthesia.
If you have a supply of reagent/research/pharmaceutical grade Diethyl Ether, please read the following:
Some more important things to note:
--Harmful by ingestion, inhalation or through skin contact. May cause inebriation or coma. May cause allergic reaction. Skin, eye and respiratory system irritant.---
This is according to the MSDS, which also lists LD50 and other data. Recreational users should keep in mind that hospital administration of ether differs to improvised administration performed at home. Wafting up high concentration evaporating ether from a rag or with your nose and mouth in a glass-full will probably cause some eye and respiratory irritation, so take it easy and remember you don't need to whiff 300mL in one go to achieve intoxication. Inhaling 10mL from a tall glass/beaker with your mouth or nose is one possible way of avoiding any stinging in your eyes or respiratory system from overexposure to high concentrations of ether vapour - simply cup the base of the glass in your hands to encourage evaporation of the liquid, and refill with another portion of ether if you would like more.
Bear in mind that when an MSDS sheet says something like "Harmful by Inhalation" it refers the reader to a relevant risk phrase: in this case the risk phrase reads:
---Vapours may cause drowsiness and dizziness.---- That is what the MSDS means by "Harmful by Inhalation" - not that it will make your testicles drop off or anything like that (I hope).
So there you have it, a small collection of some information that I think is important for people who would like to experiment with ether. It is an interesting substance, I found it pleasant in my experiences (which did not involve entering the realm of Hunter S. Thompson's "ether binge" - but that's not to say it can't happen so watch out!), so all the best to anyone who decides to try it - oh, and one last thing, don't smoke with the ether nearby
If you want information and you can't be bothered sifting around the internet (or readingly my annoyingly long posts), just use Erowid - it really is a fantastic and useful resource, and the ether vault will serve as a good introduction to the substance for those who don't know much about it:
Erowid Ether Vault
1. You shouldn't say ' "you" get an awful headache '; perhaps in your experience, you suffered from a headache after use, the following day, whatever - but that is NOT to say that someone who uses ether will necessarily suffer from a headache at all. My diethyl ether experiences resulted in no headache. Please don't generalise when describing your own experiences; by all means report your experience, but do not claim to know anything more than the subjective qualities of your experience unless you have evidence to support further claims; otherwise you become a master of misinformation.
2. Please provide evidence to support your claim. I have not seen any evidence that shows that pure reagent/pharmaceutical grade diethyl ether inhalation can 'damage' the brain. And in providing such evidence, please also specify what 'damage' it is that you are referring to.
Feel what dying? Brain cells? Which ones? In what region? How do they die? What study did you read/commission/conduct/fund that led you to this conclusion? Because I have done a small amount of research on diethyl ether and your and Jimity's claims about brain damage from 99%+ diethyl ether seem to be nothing more than bullshit.
And your obvious bias toward nitrous oxide over ether does not equip you with the tools you need to conclude that it is worse for your health. Evidence, friends, evidence - you may well be right, and damn I'm sure as shit willing to concede, but as long as you can back up what you are saying.
Because it shits me to come on here and read things, and then imagine how many more people are reading them, and then to see these opinions and beliefs expressed as solid conclusions or as definite facts - how misleading! If you discuss a drug, be it one that 50% of the population uses, or one that very few people have even tried, keep the discussion up to standard and don't let bullshit infiltrate.
Now I am quite certain that direct physiological damage does not result from reagent (uncontaminated) ether inhalation. This is based on the knowledge that poorer countries around the world still use diethyl ether in anesthesia because of its low cost - throughout the African continent, for instance. There are reasons for ether being phased out of use in anesthesia in most of the world though, and they are mostly due to its dangerous physical properties - see below.
If you are contemplating using ether, please put your health first and make sure you have access to reagent grade ether - don't buy some commercial hardware store preparation that has 2% diethyl ether and however many other chemicals (carcinogens, poisons etc.) that you really do not want to be inhaling if you are concerned about your health.
The main danger with ether arises from careless handling of a substance that is classed as Extremely Flammable - it really ignites like crazy, and explosions due to ether liquid and vapour catching fire are a very common occurrence if appropriate handling/storage guidelines are not adhered to. Combined with extreme flammability is its high vapour pressure and high relative density - this means that ether vapours can flow out of the ether container (e.g. a cup) and travel along a surface to an ignition source - in a laboratory this is usually a Bunsen burner, but may also be an appliance which produces a spark etc. If the vapour is ignited, the stream of vapour will flash back to the container of ether and the liquid will violently combust or explode. So you can imagine the trouble with storing jugs of this juice in hospitals for anesthesia.
If you have a supply of reagent/research/pharmaceutical grade Diethyl Ether, please read the following:
Some more important things to note:
--Harmful by ingestion, inhalation or through skin contact. May cause inebriation or coma. May cause allergic reaction. Skin, eye and respiratory system irritant.---
This is according to the MSDS, which also lists LD50 and other data. Recreational users should keep in mind that hospital administration of ether differs to improvised administration performed at home. Wafting up high concentration evaporating ether from a rag or with your nose and mouth in a glass-full will probably cause some eye and respiratory irritation, so take it easy and remember you don't need to whiff 300mL in one go to achieve intoxication. Inhaling 10mL from a tall glass/beaker with your mouth or nose is one possible way of avoiding any stinging in your eyes or respiratory system from overexposure to high concentrations of ether vapour - simply cup the base of the glass in your hands to encourage evaporation of the liquid, and refill with another portion of ether if you would like more.
Bear in mind that when an MSDS sheet says something like "Harmful by Inhalation" it refers the reader to a relevant risk phrase: in this case the risk phrase reads:
---Vapours may cause drowsiness and dizziness.---- That is what the MSDS means by "Harmful by Inhalation" - not that it will make your testicles drop off or anything like that (I hope).
So there you have it, a small collection of some information that I think is important for people who would like to experiment with ether. It is an interesting substance, I found it pleasant in my experiences (which did not involve entering the realm of Hunter S. Thompson's "ether binge" - but that's not to say it can't happen so watch out!), so all the best to anyone who decides to try it - oh, and one last thing, don't smoke with the ether nearby
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armadilliO
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I have had some incredibly psychedelic experiences on Ether... with a bit of Shpongle playing in the background and a big fuckoff bottle of the shit sitting there 
It's certainly something worth trying, but the LINGERING smell is fucking terrible. For two days afterwards, you have this constant odour of ether about you.
It's secreted through your saliva
Your breath
Your sweat
Your piss
etc...
So you stink to high hell!!!
But effects wise... well... if you do it CORRECTLY and aren't just some pussy sniffing it from your embroidered handkerchief... you can get righteously fucked UP
I have had some psychedelic (for lack of a better word) experiences from ether... very powerful stuff... respect it!
PS - I used pharm grade ether
Ether really is not THAT bad for you - compare it with alcohol.
Ether is actually the substance which made me see the true nature of alcohol... well... i was coming down from shrooms and thought hitting the ether was a good idea.
It was an experience, but it made me appreciate alcohol for the vile solvent it is
I still have the odd drink, but I haven't been wellllll hammered in ages!
I now taste "ether" whenever i'm really drunk... so I'm a fan of codeine or benzo's + alcohol
Don't need as much to drink to get that "posioned" feeling from alcohol we all know and love
I rate the effects of Ether above that of nitrous oxide - it's just the associated stench of ether which is nasty
If you want to get supremely fucked from a small quantity of ether, this is what you do.
Get a 600mL gatorade bottle
Put a 7mm hole (size you prefer for a carb on a bong), about 5cm from the bottom of the bottle
put about 10-15ml of ether in the bottom
cup the bottom of the bottle in your hand, to let the ether warm up and evaporate.
leave your finger on the hole, mouth over the top of the bottle.
breathe out all the way
take ur finger off the carb, and take in a huge lungful of ether \ air mix
this will be FUCKING HARSH the first couple hits, so take it slowly if you're a pussy
after the first couple hits, the anaesthetic effects begin - it becomes far easier to take bigger hits
keep cupping the bottom of the bottle in your hand so it doesnt cool down (as it evaporates, it cools down the rest of the ether - slowing down its evaporation more! so keep ya nice warm hand there!)
Um yeah...
You only need like 15mL of ether to get pretty wrecked... taken in big hits like this, two or three will get you pretty buzzed!
It's certainly something worth trying, but the LINGERING smell is fucking terrible. For two days afterwards, you have this constant odour of ether about you.
It's secreted through your saliva
Your breath
Your sweat
Your piss
etc...
So you stink to high hell!!!
But effects wise... well... if you do it CORRECTLY and aren't just some pussy sniffing it from your embroidered handkerchief... you can get righteously fucked UP
I have had some psychedelic (for lack of a better word) experiences from ether... very powerful stuff... respect it!
PS - I used pharm grade ether
Ether really is not THAT bad for you - compare it with alcohol.
Ether is actually the substance which made me see the true nature of alcohol... well... i was coming down from shrooms and thought hitting the ether was a good idea.
It was an experience, but it made me appreciate alcohol for the vile solvent it is
I still have the odd drink, but I haven't been wellllll hammered in ages!
I now taste "ether" whenever i'm really drunk... so I'm a fan of codeine or benzo's + alcohol
Don't need as much to drink to get that "posioned" feeling from alcohol we all know and love
I rate the effects of Ether above that of nitrous oxide - it's just the associated stench of ether which is nasty
If you want to get supremely fucked from a small quantity of ether, this is what you do.
Get a 600mL gatorade bottle
Put a 7mm hole (size you prefer for a carb on a bong), about 5cm from the bottom of the bottle
put about 10-15ml of ether in the bottom
cup the bottom of the bottle in your hand, to let the ether warm up and evaporate.
leave your finger on the hole, mouth over the top of the bottle.
breathe out all the way
take ur finger off the carb, and take in a huge lungful of ether \ air mix
this will be FUCKING HARSH the first couple hits, so take it slowly if you're a pussy
after the first couple hits, the anaesthetic effects begin - it becomes far easier to take bigger hits
keep cupping the bottom of the bottle in your hand so it doesnt cool down (as it evaporates, it cools down the rest of the ether - slowing down its evaporation more! so keep ya nice warm hand there!)
Um yeah...
You only need like 15mL of ether to get pretty wrecked... taken in big hits like this, two or three will get you pretty buzzed!
Baker
Bluelighter
well too me it feels like I lose brain cells in a way similar to alcohol, as the dizzying effect seem to be related, so perhaps im thinking of GABA or around the cerebellum for motor control, coz it defenitely feels a bit agitated after.
NMDA (if it even affects that area, i'm not sure).
I always percieved ether to be relatively safe in comparison to other things you can huff, but I still find that it can't exactly be healthy for you, even if it is far from the worst possible thing for your health. They say LSD, weed, mushrooms etc aren't neurotoxic, I believe this, I still and I think many will agree too that it does play with your brain chemistry (of course) 8)
I just mean, that compared to the short burst that Nitrous oxide brings, for the extended time period it has to at least be stronger right?
Even if its not killing braincells, it still feels dull after the experience (i'll admit to that and that my statement was crap) but yeah you may have been a bit harsh... me too
I personally thought it was a fun drug, but something that should be avoided, it felt more addictive then nitrous oxide, even to the extent of perhaps cocaine, there was a strong desire to do more, but this quickly passes, once you've stopped thankfully
Anyway, still made a bullshit post, but just hope I cleared up my first post a bit
-edit-
PS: I think ether is a whole lot better then alcohol, but on the other hand don't think alcohol is anything special
and enjoy ether more then nitrous oxide, was one of the more fun/euphoric drugs I have tried (very euphoric, for me at least)
NMDA (if it even affects that area, i'm not sure).
I always percieved ether to be relatively safe in comparison to other things you can huff, but I still find that it can't exactly be healthy for you, even if it is far from the worst possible thing for your health. They say LSD, weed, mushrooms etc aren't neurotoxic, I believe this, I still and I think many will agree too that it does play with your brain chemistry (of course) 8)
I just mean, that compared to the short burst that Nitrous oxide brings, for the extended time period it has to at least be stronger right?
Even if its not killing braincells, it still feels dull after the experience (i'll admit to that and that my statement was crap) but yeah you may have been a bit harsh... me too
I personally thought it was a fun drug, but something that should be avoided, it felt more addictive then nitrous oxide, even to the extent of perhaps cocaine, there was a strong desire to do more, but this quickly passes, once you've stopped thankfully
Anyway, still made a bullshit post, but just hope I cleared up my first post a bit
-edit-
PS: I think ether is a whole lot better then alcohol, but on the other hand don't think alcohol is anything special
and enjoy ether more then nitrous oxide, was one of the more fun/euphoric drugs I have tried (very euphoric, for me at least)
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BigTrancer
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Baker
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well I don't think i thought the dizzying effect was related to the brain damage, I was just pointing that out in relation to Ether, But I think my inability to express myself is just gonna leave me worse off then before.
Keep digging myself deeper and deeper, lol (I should stop posting stoned).
But thanks for that BT, was interesting
Keep digging myself deeper and deeper, lol (I should stop posting stoned).
But thanks for that BT, was interesting
I'm not sure if ether causes brain damage but i have had it a few times twice i sniffed it for over 6 hours straigh; it does leave you stupid for a while after prehaps a day or so. It is an alright drug to use coming down of things it passes the time nicely.
problem it is horrible the first few sniffs, stinks out everything you and your clothes will smell until you wash. after ether all you can taste or smell is ether.
It is a very addictive light-head drunk nitrous type high; except more smoother than nitrous.
Try having ether and nitrous together its crazy.
i once inhaled alung full of diethyl ether then proceded to inhale and recyle a double baloon of nitrous. i had convulsions and fits on the ground.
problem it is horrible the first few sniffs, stinks out everything you and your clothes will smell until you wash. after ether all you can taste or smell is ether.
It is a very addictive light-head drunk nitrous type high; except more smoother than nitrous.
Try having ether and nitrous together its crazy.
i once inhaled alung full of diethyl ether then proceded to inhale and recyle a double baloon of nitrous. i had convulsions and fits on the ground.