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Escaline - 200mg - Another key to the full blown psychedelic realm

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I have been experimenting with Escaline for a month and a bit now, not very often as I have had to work a huge number of shifts and have a personal rule of not taking a substance if I have to work the next day. Anyway, after an interesting but pretty light 75mg trip, and a stronger, enjoyable but not much more than hedonistic 125mg, I decided to take the plunge and go for 200mg.

It would be very pertinent to indicate to those who haven't read much on this chemical that this is about twice as much as most people are taking and I truly felt the chemical had more potential than I was experiencing at lower doses. That said PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE be careful and work your way up as this is a novel chemical without much true idea as to safe boundaries.

I think it is safe to say that I have a pretty great idea of what Mescaline has to offer now but from everything I have read, Mescaline is a soft and gentle ride; this was anything but. For the first hour I started feeling a build up of energy and contentment and having used it several times in the past I had little anxiety so I was enjoying it as much as possible, listening to music and laying on a couch. Around an hour and twenty minutes, I all of a sudden start getting overwhelmed a bit by the music, icons on my computer start to breath, all the album art on iTunes starts to get extra depth and shimmer.

At this point I have to take my headphones out and turn towards the couch to close my eyes for a bit and the close eyed state is seriously weird. Thought patterns start building on themselves and jumping off into tangents while abstract visuals of swirling lights and dye spreading through water build up and disintegrate and change. I get lost for a couple minutes and then open my eyes and everything is still just breathing a bit, shimmering, but my thoughts return to normal, analytical and cohesive assessment of my situation.

I start getting zaps through my body that make me arch my back or jerk around and the feeling is pure ecstasy, but again becomes overwhelming so I close my eyes again and get lost in.... something..... maybe a repetative thought cycle or complete dissassociation, either way I open my eyes again and forty minutes has passed with no explation of the time loss. The open eye visuals at this point are pretty crazy, everything is covered in a swirling overlay, the ceiling has fast moving paisley gears cycling around eachother in unnaturally fast motion and my enire vision keeps shifting an inch or so back and forth like everything is phasing in and out between two states of existance. There is shifting colour scales in the corners of the room and the books on my book shelf keep lighting up and growing and shrinking in such a way that looks like various ones are becoming more prominent and the artwork on my walls all become three dimensional. The visuals are so intense and everything is happening so fast I can't help but puke like I've never puked before, I feel better after this but the onslaught of stimuli is still a complete mess of visual input.

Many random trains of thought come up along the lines of human achievement vs. the cost of growth etc. but every argument is presented with its counter argument and moves so fast I just typically can't be fucked to follow along and ignore it more than anything else. The high was super pushy and intense and about four hours in I start to get pretty bad tremors and feel unbelievably weak (I also fast before psychedelics so this definitely didn't help. One other thing is I'm a caffeine nut, I would have had at least 1-1.5grams of caffeine throughout the day so who know what effect that had on the trip).

I also find with escaline there is no blissful glowing post-plateau, I'm completely spent by the time I get there and generally just feel completely used up. At 6 hours I feed my cats and make the most ridiculous attempt to pill one of them (eventually sucessfully) and having made sure that I meet my major resposibility before crashing out I then take 4mg etizolam and everything becomes amazing. I find etizolam to be pretty euphoric on its own and it isn't able to kill the trip but it takes it to a much happier place where everything is still trippy but finally slowed down and enjoyable. Music is orgasmic at this point and I want to cry with absolute joy at finally getting to experience what I wanted.
All in all, this ended up being about as visual and powerful as a three tab acid trip or about 4-5 grams of mushrooms. I found it to be easier in terms of psyche, at no point was I confronted with anything I couldn't think my way out of or even bothered by at all, I was left with a depersonalized analytical ability to parse every thought. On the other hand, TOO much stuff going on to really take anything from it, no lessons really learned, kinda felt like being on a rollercoaster that you realized after you got locked in that you wouldn't have got on if you knew it was going to be quite that crazy. That said, I'm a glad I did it, I love broadening my experiences, it wasn't scarring in any way and I feel like I've gone on a journey or run a marathon and life has been refreshed. My overarching feeling though is that it certainly is a key to the same psychedelic places as acid and mushrooms, but it does not feel like the right one to use to get there.

Hope this is informative and be careful but have fun! Feel free to ask any questions and I will do my best to answer.
 
Wonderful read! I particularly liked your description of the color distortions you noticed on the books on your bookshelf, that imagery was depicted brilliantly :D

Escaline is a compund I would love to research. Finding it is difficult, a synth is on the bucket list :)
 
Cracking report! 200mg is quite a hit for this stuff though! I'm facinated by mescaline & it's derivatives so I always read reports on Escaline, sounds like a winner for sure =D
 
Thanks for the report! How physically comfortable was it at that dose, gastrointestinally speaking? Did you take 200mg all at once?

Mescaline as well as the analogues I've tried (Methallyescaline, TMA-2) all leave me feeling drained. TMA-2 was probably the worst cost-to-benefit ratio. Nothing like the afterglow from LSD or DMT or even mushrooms. I would like to try Escaline some time.
 
Wow, great read ! realy got into that, reading whilst got some 1200 mics psy trance playing, had me reading faster and faster to take it in quicker, was a thrill just reading it, so must of been some ride doing it, first time ive even heard of that particular thing, but then again we are a bit sheltered in the north of England ! haha ..

Thanks for a great write up ..
 
Bunnyhentman - I would say this is a pretty uncomfortable high (relative to dosage, 75mg was pretty easily tolerated, 125 was a bit uncomfortable on the come up and required a purge, 200mg was a bit of a trial, pretty rough on the stomach, retched hard about four or five times and then just let loose and puked one of the hardest and most relieving pukes of my life, lol). I do tend to get a lot of weird body sensations (in the negative connotation) from psychedelics, the main difference here is as you say, get through those and acid or mushrooms leave you with a pretty euphoric glow, this absolutely does not. It feels like you have performed some serious hard labour (akin to moving an apartments worth of stuff), though it isn't an altogether bad feeling (nice to have the sense that you've "been somewhere and done something" when you take a drug) it would definitely be way more awesome if it was euphoria instead. On that note, taking a reasonabe dose of etizolam (I'm pretty much a benzo-and-related-compounds virgin, maybe 6 times in my whole life) like 2-4mg once the more interesting part of the trip has subsided definitely leaves me feeling just totally perfect, so I would highly recommend grabbing some of that too if you decide to try escaline.

The dose was 200mg at once, in this case 4mg etizolam (as close as liquid measurement allows) at 6 hours. I really hope to hear some experiences from other people, especially those who have had the chance to try Mescaline. I'm also curious (enough that I will probably do it) to see what up to 300mg yeilds. Is there any specific reason to assume Escaline would be more potent than Mescaline (general rules of like-wise substitutions or whatnot)?

Final thought, I know I found the trip a bit difficult (mostly due to overstimulation, zero dark thoughts or bad tripping in any way) while I was going through it, I still had that feeling when I wrote the report shortly after, but in the following days I noticed an ongoing subtle glow of positivity and started contemplating dosing at least 200mg again (which at points in the trip I thought I'd probably never do).
 
I too am waiting on that 300mg escaline trip report. If I had that much, I might just be the one to test the waters.
 
I'm confused about the end, do you use benzos frequently? 4mg sounds like a lot to me, 1mg will normally send me to sleep.
 
Sorry, to be specific I don't often use benzos as I'm worried about addictive potential. I will use etizolam to sleep after trips from now on, but straight sober I would only use 2mg max (I'm pretty big too), 4mg is enough to take me from "no chance of sleeping for several hours due to drug" to crashed out in about 20 min. I have noticed milage with etizolam varies hugely between individuals though, so go with what you'd comfortably take sober plus maybe a smidge more.

On 200mg escaline it was less able to bring me out of the trip, so if you dose a large amount of a stimulatory psychedelic, maybe take a smidge more than a smidge more than you'd take sober (gotta love that for exact measurements)
 
i think there's a sweet spot with escaline - i was taking over 100mg at a time chasing some sort of magical high but the side effects kept getting worse then one day i decided, 'well i'll try a low dose' and i found it to be a much more enjoyable experience. 50-70mg is great, 125+mg just seems to make it either overwhelming or too much of a body load. For whatever reason i found proscaline far more visual (and much much more stimulating) than escaline; i've only had profound visuals once on escaline at 70mg and that was it.

thanks for the report; saves me the trouble of ever attempting a 200mg dose :)
 
Well I have had a sample of this stuff too & I am 50/50 between love & hate for it.
The body takes a real kicking & you feel like you have been run over by a truck when you come down, I got weird muscle issues too like my CNS was working overtime. The 1st trip I had a real issue even just walking & fell over like I was on 4MeO PCP all the time.

I have a feeling this stuff is semi toxic to the human body in some way, I did go back to it a few times but the last trip I had on it I have been having a issue with my bladder control after coming down, it has been 4 days since I had any & I am still having a issue with control of my urine (insert shame here)

Serious folks in my view you go above 150mg with this stuff really watch out, this stuff is no joke.
 
i think there's a sweet spot with escaline - i was taking over 100mg at a time chasing some sort of magical high but the side effects kept getting worse
125+mg just seems to make it either overwhelming or too much of a body load

Quoted for truth (qft)

I agree 100% Robotripping, the body load on it is savage.
Did you also find you had bad diarrhea on the come up?
 
-Jam Uh Weezy

I actually legitmately had to dose my cat with meds on a q12 basis. I have used the euphamism "tranquilize the cat" in reference to ketamine before but in this case it was just a ridiculous feat of low coordination and several failed attempts at what is normally routine.
 
Nice report!

Escaline seems to be growing in popularity within the RC world, so hopefully your report will help some folks. As with other phenethylamines, I'd advise caution with dosing to avoid things like seizures, cardiovascular problems, etc. Don't need any more deaths after all the NBOMe tragedies. People often assume that psychedelics are benign and harmless which isn't always the case. (See: bromo-dragonFLY).

I personally H-A-T-E mescaline due to the nausea. Can definitely appreciate its spiritual properties though. Not something I'd take for recreation under any circumstance.
 
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