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Conspiracies Epstein Dies in Custody - Alleged Suicide, Some Speculate it was a Hit Job

Xorkoth said:
Well, there's Trump's long history of attempting to break into the Russian real estate business (which has been very difficult for him and which he has been attempting for many years), and his Moscow Trump Tower project. He also has repeatedly claimed he has no financial interest in Russia. Honestly it's fine for a president to have interest in opening a hotel in Russia, but why is he lying about it.

"Russia has never tried to use leverage over me," he tweeted in January 2017. "I HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH RUSSIA - NO DEALS, NO LOANS, NO NOTHING!" (from this article on businessinsider: https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-russia-business-financial-ties-2018-11)

Yet this is untrue. It's weird he would deny his long history (up until current) of business dealings with Russia: Business Projects of Donald Trump in Russia Wikipedia page.

Additionally, after declaring bankruptcy several times in the US a couple of decades ago, US banks would no longer lend to Trump and he found those who would still buy into him, which happened to be wealthy Russians:



I bolded the parts that are most important IMO. This paints a picture of a guy bailed out by powerful Russians, with ties to the Russian mafia. We know that his team met with Russians at least 14 times during his campaign. Now I'm not saying there is anything wrong or illegal about having business dealings with Russians, obviously there isn't. What I am saying is that he is in debt to powerful Russians and he has business interests in Russia, and he lied about that on Twitter. And it's not too big a leap of logic to think there is a good possibility that said Russians could apply leverage and use him as a pawn in interfering with foreign affairs... he is the president after all.

As for Uranium One/DNC hacking, to me that's whataboutism. Yes, that shit is fucked up. So is this. My point is, this is fucked up.
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Bro... Equaring buisness deali gs with giving our avowed evil Russian allies fucking uranium? One of these is not like fhe other
 
See my above post. I'm not making value comparisons. Refuting my claims with "but what about Clinton" is the definition of whataboutism. It's ignoring my argument entirely. I stated in my last post that I now have a problem with that, too. I'm not trying to compare Trump to Hillary, I never was. I'm not trying to say one is worse than the other, I'm trying to say I think Russia has it out for us, and I'm trying to suggest they might be using Trump and his people. The Clintons have nothing to do with that.
 
JGrimez said:
Got any evidence?
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If I was Vladimir Putin I would.

JGrimez said:
google "Amazon CIA contract"
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ONE MAN SHOULD BE ABLE TO OWN THE WORLD and it's everyone else's fault for enabling him because they wouldn't listen to people like me (but not just me; other people share sentiments that I do).

You're awfully left-leaning to hate on the world's richest guy who isn't even historically the world's richest guy. I think you need some PERSPECTIVE, bro. But I say that from a place of love, and also because I'm in grief so my word are coming out weird and I'm not trying to offend anyone.

Wealth inequality for life.

JGrimez said:
Most people here were convinced that Trump was working for Putin.
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Honestly it's more likely Putin is working for Trump and they are collaborating together to push the occupied government agenda of racism, far-right ideology, to keep most of the world socially and economically stagnant while US and RUS can surge economies, MAGA MARA and what not. Fuck that noise. Terrible plan.

a place where suicide is virtually impossible
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LOL where, your dreams?

All you have to do is intentionally ram your head into the cement prison wall four, eight, twelve times max and you will hemorrhage to death.

You can starve yourself to death in a matter of weeks.

Show me a place and I will tell you there is a way to off yourself. It might not be pleasant, and it might not be humane, but when there's a lack of will to live, there's a way. (pun on "when there's a will, there's a way")
 
JessFR said:
Yeah I don't think he's a Russian agent either.
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Because you haven't weighed on one side the evil of the illegitimate Russian Federation.... and on the other side the lackluster job of not standing up to Russia that Trump has done.

In my mind, there's only 2 possibilities.

If Trump speaks out against Russia or Putin he gets poisoned to death, and that's why he has to pretend he likes Putin. OR
Trump is part of the illegal occupied government of Russia infesting the world with its reverse engineering of social progress so they can get 50 more years to build up their arsenals and military capabilities.

Too bad they won't be able to sell enough oil in time to afford their fancy new toys and that'll just be a huge waste of the Russian's money. Terrible. They deserve a real government that cares about them.
 
Captain.Heroin said:
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Trump is part of the illegal occupied government of Russia infesting the world with its reverse engineering of social progress so they can get 50 more years to build up their arsenals and military capabilities.
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Or perhaps a combination of carrot and stick: Putin creates offshore bank accounts for T with billions in them, perhaps half up front and another half after 4/8 years of successful service-

And at the same time has Kompromot video of him up to various hijinx in Russia.

Wouldn't be surprised if there is kompromat on many figures, held by many, so none of them can betray one another too harshly.
 
jb99 said:
Or perhaps a combination of carrot and stick: Putin creates offshore bank accounts for T with billions in them, perhaps half up front and another half after 4/8 years of successful service-

And at the same time has Kompromot video of him up to various hijinx in Russia.

Wouldn't be surprised if there is kompromat on many figures, held by many, so none of them can betray one another too harshly.
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Putin Ponsi Scheme could be theoretical but unlikely. If he was good with money he wouldn't be running his own currency into the ground.

Forget the money and banks it's small pennies. What Russia is doing internationally, their ultra-destructive agenda, is far more dangerous.
 
You think so? I'd read he was estimated to be worth $40-80 billion at least, thru companies he controls indirectly.

I haven't followed Rub/USD, looks like it collapsed in 2014 but has been steadily recovering since 2015.

I'm no expert but Putin clearly must be a political/espionage genius to have emerged at the helm of Russia after collapse of USSR. Not hard to translate that to wealth.

I've read some awesome books on cold war espionage, I'll try to find and post later. The GRU KGB etc was no joke.
 
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Great opportunity to reach across the aisle here guys. Lot of right-wing and liberal elites had deep ties to him. Let's just focus on the fact that the Clintons murdered him and none of the people involved with the Clinton Foundation will ever face justice for their abhorrent crimes because we live in Hellworld.
 
So I tried to find out more about this apparent camera malfunction. All I was able to determine is that it's very likely that this claim is entirely made up.

Certainly wouldn't surprise me, given people just believe anything they hear that tells them what they want to believe.

Now, not saying this definitely was a suicide. I'd like to wait until more informations available rather than leaping to a conclusion now.
 
jb99 said:
You think so? I'd read he was estimated to be worth $40-80 billion at least, thru companies he controls indirectly.

I haven't followed Rub/USD, looks like it collapsed in 2014 but has been steadily recovering since 2015.

I'm no expert but Putin clearly must be a political/espionage genius to have emerged at the helm of Russia after collapse of USSR. Not hard to translate that to wealth.

I've read some awesome books on cold war espionage, I'll try to find and post later. The GRU KGB etc was no joke.
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Wait Trump is worth that much or Putin? I'm really confused. I might have been mistaken? I thought trump's worth was being spoken about or...something....what...let me see what I said. Oh, I was implying Putin would be a moron to run the currency into the ground while getting rich. Let's just change his last name to ROMANOV and the Russian Heroes will do our work for us.

negrogesic said:
I wonder when theyre going release the video of him and trump DPing a 15 year old
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Is this what was alleged? I heard the pre-election women who were too afraid to be named IS THERE MORE I DIDN'T GET TO HEAR?
 
Factualist said:
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Great opportunity to reach across the aisle here guys. Lot of right-wing and liberal elites had deep ties to him. Let's just focus on the fact that the Clintons murdered him and none of the people involved with the Clinton Foundation will ever face justice for their abhorrent crimes because we live in Hellworld.
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If you're so PC that you think paedophiles should get to live on my tax payer dime after he was already a billionaire, then yeah I'm glad Hillary did it. But I think everyone who thinks Hillary did it is on more meth than I've done in my entire lifetime.

SHE COULDN'T EVEN WIN THE 2016 ELECTION. What makes you think she could get away with murder, conspiracy to commit murder etc. type crimes?

*reviews reality* yeah ya'll are higher than me I think

I love how I'm a Libertarian who actually is open to the idea that Epstein was murdered I DON'T CARE who did it and GOOD FOR SOCIETY. One less carbon emitting billionaire pedophile = I think society wins.

I don't watch CIA fed 3 letter news networks other than CNN because it's too easy to decipher so I don't listen to the gibberish.
 
I love seeing people blame Clinton AND Trump. At least it shows people finally care. I've got no dog int he fight on which "side" did it. Personally, I feel people are just gonna have to wake up to the fact the 2 party system in America is an illusion of choice run by a larger entity.

www.nbcnews.com

FBI agents swarm Jeffrey Epstein's private Caribbean island

"We were just trying to look at pretty fish ... and here we are in the middle of an FBI raid," said Kelly Quinn, the owner of Salty Dog Day Sails.
www.nbcnews.com www.nbcnews.com
 
Epstein got got becoz he was a snitch ya Hurd? White boi in protective custody yo he ded fam thats wuts up we run things....im guessing in special housing you are basically in solitary?
 
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Captain.Heroin said:
If you're so PC that you think paedophiles should get to live on my tax payer dime after he was already a billionaire, then yeah I'm glad Hillary did it. But I think everyone who thinks Hillary did it is on more meth than I've done in my entire lifetime.

SHE COULDN'T EVEN WIN THE 2016 ELECTION. What makes you think she could get away with murder, conspiracy to commit murder etc. type crimes?

*reviews reality* yeah ya'll are higher than me I think

I love how I'm a Libertarian who actually is open to the idea that Epstein was murdered I DON'T CARE who did it and GOOD FOR SOCIETY. One less carbon emitting billionaire pedophile = I think society wins.

I don't watch CIA fed 3 letter news networks other than CNN because it's too easy to decipher so I don't listen to the gibberish.
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I mean, I just like conspiracy theories tbh, but also I'll just say it's a lot easier to put a hit out on someone than win a presidential election.

Dead wrong on it being a good thing he died now. He should've been executed after some of the elites he entertained on his child rape plane were also brought to justice, but that would never actually happen because the game is rigged.
 
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