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(Ephenidine / 300mg IV + 300mg oral) - dissociative connoisseur - So long, ketamine!

Nah I injected the second and third injection paravenously, the propylene glycol stayed there for quite some time. It causes the tissue to become acidic, a known problem which can cause death if PG doses are high enough. 15ml liquid around the vessel which means quite some pressure on top of the chemical irritation. Trauma, stasis and coagulation is the causal trias for thromboses, coagulation might've been a factor, but I suppose the former 2 were the bigger issue. I've already had a retinal vein occlusion and another thrombosis, so coagulation might be a problem, but I got checked very thoroughly by one of the leading experts on blood coagulation who works in a hospital in my town. He couldn't find shit. Homeostasis and trauma should be to blame here. :/

I'd love to hear about the 1p-LSD combo. It seems like you've used ephenidine quite a bit! At what doses if I may ask? I thought of a DOC combo because it exhibits an insane synergy with ketamine and lasts just as long as the ephenidine.
 
So you've combined lsd up and ephen? Please share briefly because I'm about to try. Yell me dose duration at least. Much thanks
 
would ephenidine help gabapentin withdrwa? I always thought there wern't withdrawals from this shit but since stopping after being on it for 3 months I feel like I'm in a combination of benzo withdrawal plus i feel like I ate some bad acid with a slight tough of some bad pcp.... hahahahha.... no fun.....they say nmda antagonists help this withdrawal so wasn't sure if perhaps this could help.... I'd rather be 100 percent by the time I go into the void but just curious if anyone knows anything about that
 
Anyway My goods should be here saturday hopefully... If not I'll have to postpone......Would it be completely stupid to take 2 hits 200ug IP lsd alond 500 Ephinidine? I'm pretty set on the 500 Ephen trip but the IP LSD combo scares me alittle.... I'm not the type to bug out and have a bad trip but I'm just not sure of the interacation....I also don't have enough product to toy around with doses so maybe I should wait until I ishave more before messing around.....I'm curious to hear about the person that combined LSD with EPHenidine.......I love the spiritual aspects of ephen but added lsd I would think would increase this
 
I Will have to describe my fail 1150mg experiment lol. Can't have a religious experience just anytime. 15h of puking upon any drop of water entering your stomach though, that is an experience accessible to all of us. Well I wanted to see how much hell I can take I suppose. :D
 
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This chem seems so solube in water I figured you could IV withouth proplyene Glycol. Has anyone tried it with just water.... SEems to absorb perfectly
 
Whut? Not mine it didn't. Well it might have dissolved about the same amount, meaning the PG might not have helped, but it's still not very soluble in water. I left the last 1150mg in 2ml PG + 7ml water on the heating unit for a few hours and when I came back a lot more was dissolved. I couldn't say how much. I just wanted to knock myself out that day I guess.
 
Yeah, I actually went through 13g of the stuff. I had a hard time dissolving this substance in both PG and water. Heat definitely seemed to help in my case as well. That may be the trick. I honestly haven't IV'd anything before, and I understand it's generally not encouraged that one gets into it, but I really can't wait until I get the chance to IV/IM this compound. Any advice or serious reason I shouldn't, cr00k? And assuming intensity is the goal, would you recommend IV over IM?

As for the combinations, I submit a report to erowid on the 1p-LSD to which I hope will get published sometime soon. To put it simply, all of my psychedelic combinations with Ephenidine have been nothing short of amazing. The tramadol combinations were also pleasant but in a much different way. It seemed to increase visual activity with the eyes closed, but it also increased the manic edge of the experience and made me oddly emotional. My first time trying the combo, I remember crying like I never had before..very unlike myself. I can't remember what it was about too well, but I believe it was about my family and their issues. It must've been about 100-150mg of each orally. Then I just smoked an unmeasured amount of ephenidine in a bowl with some good quality cannabis and forgot about it all...
 
Well I could obviously try to talk you out of it. Needles are bad news. Very bad news. You may be fine, but some people aren't. Like me, I'm not fine.

That being said, for the most intense experience you should definitely IV the substance. I would discourage intramuscular injections since we don't know what happens when this much ephenidine comes in contact with muscle tissue. When you inject intravenously, the substance will at least spread out in your blood.

Now if you do IV it, make sure you only do so ONCE per experience. You will miss the second shot and could end up with a phatass red cable on your arm like the one I have on my arm right now, especially if you use PG.

I really wonder why no one has combined this with DOC. The DOC+Ket combo is off the hooks and this would be a perfect match duration wise...

How long did it take you to go through 13g?
 
I understand. I mean, what physical risks am I taking with IV aside from what you mentioned. I don't think I'd do it more than once per day/experience as i'm not too keen on needles. But thanks for the IM advice, I definitely wouldn't want any muscle tissue damage. But what makes missing the second shot so likely?

Haha, I wouldn't mind trying this combo but I don't have DOC readily available. Maybe you could be the first to give it a go? So far I haven't had any problems between Ephenidine and psychedelics. Although that's not to say there isn't a possibility of a negative interaction.

I went through the 13g within about 3 weeks - not counting the breaks in between. I definitely got into a poor habit with this substance. I had to force my breaks by not purchasing it after I ran out because I couldn't keep it around for longer than a day.
 
I never had

I never was too keen on needles. However it took me 9 months to develope a type of obsessive compulsive behaviour (needle fixation) causing me to poke myself up to thousand times in a sitting - something that happens on stimulants, not on dissociatives, but still... Do not underestimate this needle thing. I got started on it through dissociatives. The rush is (quite literally) something else!

A low dose ephenidine and a low-regular DOC dose should be absolutely insane. I have to stay away from ephenidine. Btw I broke a little piece off my olecranon (elbow) that day I ran my bike into the traffic light. Just realized that after 3 weeks or so. I wondered why it was still hurting like a bitch lol.
 
Some useful and intriguing reports in this thread. Very grateful to those pioneers who have shared their experience.

The question I have is, given a choice of 3-meO-PCP and Ephenidine, which one?

The description by crOOk sounds like they have some similarities. The ineffable infinite excursion he tries to explain is, well, beyond words...how do you describe the taste of an apple?

But the sheer volume of substance needed for Ephenidine is daunting. Also the 15 hours of vomiting could be dangerous.

The question of Ephenidine's suitability for therapeutic use is somewhat exciting. Perhaps it deserves a first hand trial. In the meantime, there is always good old 3-meO.

Is Ephenidine addictive? A limiting factor to consider. I've never dosed 3-meO on consecutive days, except once, 60mg, it was crisp lucid manic bliss.
 
I can only speculate since I have never taken 3-MeO-PCP, but have heard a lot of people compare it to other dissociatives which are my favourite class of drugs. I don't think 3-MeO-PCP is all that similar to ephenidine. The initial phase is almost identical to the hole experienced on ketamine which I have never entered on other dissociatives, no matter how insane the dose was. If you want a full-on escape into that dream state, 3-MeO-PCP won't get you there. This one however will!

I have strong suspicions it is addictive, the 3g I had were gone in a few days and I have more than once considered restocking. To me it seems to be about as addictive as ketamine or pcp, so way up there. However due to the long duration it is not possible to use it without neglecting work and social life, so I suppose the risk for actually acquiring a habit is very low compared to ketamine and still a bit lower than the risk of acquiring a pcp habit is.

Wonderful substance, absolutely wonderful. In fact, I might just order some more.
 
crOOk, opinion noted. You have never tried 3-meO-PCP? Well, then. There you are. I like it a lot because it is not addictive like ketamine or MXE, correct me if I'm wrong, lol.

My inner Harm Reduction manager has convinced me I do not need the experience or even require the faintest desire in my karma to IV or IM anything, let alone a RC, and have never tried ketamine or MXE, despite its wide availability. Maybe later.

I'd rather stick to one thing like 3-me0, since I'm well stocked, and besides, all that drug preparation and acquisition ritual shit is SO unending and time consuming to the exclusion of everything and everyone else. Slippery slope, Not my MO.

Puking for hours after slamming Ephenidine must have been a seemingly endless unwanted event that leaves one spent broke. You are brave to continue, or perhaps addicted? Well, maybe...just a tad moreish.

On the box, Neil Young, Broadway crack grunge Freedom.
 
Why thank you. :)

@Akbar
It wasn't really that bad. I've been to much worse places than where puking on dissociatives took me. The dose was just way too high, I tried to reproduce the religious experience of a few days earlier. I do have a huge problem with substance abuse, but haven't taken ephenidine or any other dissociative since.
 
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Wow I came back to this report because I tried an IV dose of Ephenidine. It was probably a little under 100 mg's as I spilled a little transfering from my tiny scale to a cap to mix. I unfortunately didn't have straight proplyne glycol but I had a mix of prop and Vegetable glyrice with no nicotine used for vaping when trying to quit cigarettes.

I didn't think much would happen but woah it hit fairly hard causing me to lie down. All these buzzing sounds where heard and some minor open and closed eye visuals along with a nice body buzz. It came on slower than expected but the warmth started arriving about halfway through. I used about 1ml pg/vg 50 50 mix and about 2ml of water. My veins wern't in the best shape after a 3-fpm binge but I crashed hard due to heavy use and figured why not.

It was a way differnt experience compared to a normal oral dose where I felt somewhat holed but if I wanted to get up and walk I could have.

The thing about ephenidine is it brings up this feeling of how I want to be a good person and be loving towards all. I makes me feel as if I died and am possibly leaving my body in order to decide if I want to live or stay.

I have a long history of drug abuse which has caused suicidal tendencies. Lost job, money, friends. I've had sober times of up to 1 year a few times and a bunch of 6 month runs. I went to AA and found it to be great because I found groups of younger people and it was nice to realize i'm not the only one who's taken massive amounts of drugs and alcohol and fucked up my life.

I had 2.5 months of sobriety aside from a lowish dose of loperamide to keep PAWS at bay. I was on Suboxone for 6 years and it helped me get my life together but in the end it actually nearly killed me. Tapering down drove me to insanity and really was the first time I picked up the needle shooting 1mg at a time, Delusionally thinking I was shortening the half life so I could jump off with a shorter withdrawal. Turns out a still would have withdrawal after 14-30 days. It got better but I still felt like shit all the time so eventually I got on Lope which some say is extremely unhealthy but I found my sex drive came back and as long as I didn't push the dose into 100mg I felt fairly normal.....

Sorry for the rant back to Ephenidine. I have 1 gram coming and would like to try a higher dose like 200mg's. Is a 3ml syringe enough? How unhealthy is it to be using proplyne glycol and vegatable glycrine?

That same day I took a capsule with around what was suppose to be 300 mg's but the vendor may have shorted me. I didn't weigh it because I had a bag of 500 mgs and plannned to just do the whole thing....I hadn't eaten anything in welll over 24 hours. The ephenidine had little to no effects so it seems it needs some sort of food or something to pass through the stomach and get to the bloodstream...I'm not educated enough to understand that though but I did hear reports of people taking with some sort of fatty substance due to it not being water soluble.

Have you tried any more Ephenidine doses Crook? Unless I stay sober I may just try using this once a week and see if I can quit my drug abuse and depression and get back on my ass and get to work and loving life again. I've been to high states of bliss and love for the beauty and creation of alll when sober but have fallen down many times which is usually caused by relapsing on alcohol, herion, crack or even 3-fpm and benzos. 3 fpm's rush is just so incredible i find it hard to resist ordering a gram or 2 here and there but while theres not a comedown per say I do feel somewhat depressed a few days later and my life situation doesn't help.

Ok sorry if that was too much I just find your reports interesting and love pushing the limits which ultimately can lead one from heaven to hell which results in sobriety and a greater appreciation for life. I just don't know how you manage to have the money to buy so much of these things, still have friends and girlfriends and keep it together. I don't want to have to rely on going to AA daily to stay sober and make friends who are only your friends when your sober but as soon as you relapse they are gone.

Maybe I should start checking out the Darkside anyway. Crook I'd love your feedback and I hope if your trying to stay away from ephenidine this doesn't trigger it. Its much cleaner than 3-fpm which after the first few rushes you find yourself sticking yourself with the needle too many times. Laying in bed leaving pins laying around watching filthy porn. Very unhealthy behavior. At least with Ephen its a somewhat spiritual experience and while there is addictive aspects to it, its different then a stimulant feen.

If I were smart I'd throw away my box of 100 3ml rigs but what always happens is I find some that i forgot about due to them being in different hiding spots in my room. But theres also the infatuation of the fairly instant comeup rather than waiting 1.5 hours for the stuff to kick in and did you take enough or do you have to redose and wait another 2 hours..Its not like K where you can snort the stuff because its not water soluble to while some may absorb through the mucus membrane the rest just goes down with the drip.

Anyway hope to hear from ya even though your probably trying to stay away from bluelight to avoid the 3-fpm thread. I can identify with the madness of sticking yourself with 21-25 gauge needles with blood dripping down everywhere not caring at all execpt for that rush but its only achievable a few times I found unless you were to go crazy into the 1000mg doses which would risk heartattack so its just not worth it. Anyone who's been addicted to shooting Coke knows what i'm talking about. I never shot meth but I can imagine it'd be similiar but meth has a longer halflife so i'd think less injections is needed. But i'm not sure.

I have to start hitting up the Darkside to see if there are any recovered addicts over there that have been through the madness of speed addiction. I've been to treatment center and most of the people there are shitbags due to herion killing all their morals and making them resort to living on the street or being in jail most of their life. Every once in awhile i'd meet someone who's familiar with RC's. I used to love K but lost access to it but I think its more of just an addictive drug than one like ephenidine that has a spiritual aspect to it.

I can't handle most psychedelics due to how shitty they make my body feel aside from bk-2cb which is incredibly euphoric somewhat erotic until it turns into a full on trip where the visuals are nice but nothing special. That shit really taxes the body it feels and i'm drained a few days later but its helped me to see how stupid i've become seeing my veins all mashed from shooting and thinking i'm going to get sober again. It has had that effect on me but me being the spiritual type trying to reach God or Engligthenment which is the dissolution of the ego and what remains is a pure oneness of God which isn't this magical guy in the sky its a subjective knowingness of the reality of God and its Love for us. If anyones read any true story's of englightenment they actually sound like acid trips. Bill Wilson and David Hawkins who is and will be know as the highest spiritual teacher of all time has written many books describing the subjective experience along with everything you've ever wanted to know about life and death and karma. I studied his books and lectures and its the real deal but the only known normal person that was a psychiatrist with a huge intellect that has been able to eloquently describe the state of enlightenment and what God is and not some fairy tale bullshit of a human like god.

Woah I have to stop writing I don't want to annoy anyone but the main question is for Crook and his Ephenidine experiences. Thanks for reporting. I find you an interesting person regardless of your extreme abuse of drugs which most people can't understand fully unless they've been there. It takes more than just will power to overcome true addiction. Some people are just heavy hard users but end it quitting easily with not much trouble then there the real addict or alcoholic who has a condition that is basically your brain tricking you telling you to do more when you know you shouldn't.
 
After a few more attemps with IV ephenidine I had to make sure the little crushed up balls of poweder made it into my veins.

after attempting 200mg I found a significant amount remaining in the syringe which caused me to add some PG and shake it up adding more water.

Wow IV ephenidine is some beautiful yet scary stuff. I couldn't imagine using a dosage of 300 mgs. That would send me to the moon. 150 or maybe 200 sent me into some strange places. Something seemed to be missing though as to when dosing oral.

I'm just too afraid a family member is going to find me dead attempting this stuff so I think I'm done.
 
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