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Entheogenic Waiver

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I don't want to show them later. I want to show the idiots who are incapable of doing a simple simple task because I'm just there, and it's easier to get me to do. While they're high. As soon as we're down they go in the shredder. Makes perfect sense to me.
 
I certainly hope none of you would actually ever print or sign a document like this. I don't care if you light it on fire before your pen leaves the paper - it's stupid to confess in writing to illegal actions and there is always a better way to make any point about harms reduction. I also stand by my claim that if you need a checklist to remind yourself that taking drugs can powerfully alter your mental state, you have no business taking drugs and you're probably not the type who would bother with the checklist anyway.
 
I certainly hope none of you would actually ever print or sign a document like this. I don't care if you light it on fire before your pen leaves the paper - it's stupid to confess in writing to illegal actions and there is always a better way to make any point about harms reduction. I also stand by my claim that if you need a checklist to remind yourself that taking drugs can powerfully alter your mental state, you have no business taking drugs and you're probably not the type who would bother with the checklist anyway.

Um, they'll be burned or shredded as soon as I come down. If we get caught before that point, I'm pretty sure the police would have seized the drugs in my house by then and noticed we were all tripping our nuts off and whether we had signed bits of paper or not would make no fucking difference whatsoever. Yes? Unless you think I'm going to take all the waivers and glue them over my naked body, then run down to the cop shop yelling GOD IM SO FUCKING HIGH RIGHT NOW!
 
Signed! (figuratively)

Lighten up guys! It's not about the piece of paper, it's about the idea behind it. Show this to people, make sure they understand what it means (and why you should never print it) and continue on your journey. That's all it takes. Hell, verbal contracts are still legal, right? There's your untraceable consent right there.
 
Obviously it's not *likely* that an authority would find such a document but it's still absolutely ridiculous to consider actually printing and signing it. As a concept I guess it's useless but mostly harmless but why you would feel the need to literally sign the incriminating document in order to understand its point is entirely beyond me.

I'm STILL curious about this magical document that you burn the next day and then have someone show to you later when you're being a "douche." If you mean *while high*, um, good luck convincing someone who starts acting like a douche while tripping or something that they shouldn't because of that carefully considered document they read before dosing. Gimme a break.
 
@solistus: Like the entheogens themselves, this document is more about a state of mind than an actual contractual obligation. Nobody's going to sign it or use it in a court of law. The point is to illustrate that you're serious about the proper use of said sacred medicines - nothing more, nothing less.
 
I get that, and I agree with the general principle that people should be aware of drugs they are taking and responsible for whatever they do or say while on drugs, but people clarifying "don't worry I'll burn it later" makes me think someone might actually print this out - just wanted to make it clear that's a bad idea. But yes, this is good stuff to go over with friends before they try a new compound in general, although it more or less goes without saying among those in the 'drug community'. Know your limits, and if you cross them and do something stupid, even while high or tripping or in whatever altered state you may choose, you're obligated to make it right.

I think we can all agree: definitely go over safety issues and understand liability concerns, etc. before using any drugs, definitely don't sign literal paper documents describing your illegal activities for no good reason. Yes? If you really feel signing something is helpful, at least try to make it not directly incriminating by omitting reference to actually possessing or consuming the described drugs :\ Even if the actual risk is minimal to most casual users, it's still not good for a harms reduction site to go advising people to document their illegal activities - that's precisely the kind of thing we have rules here on BL, at least, to avoid.

On a more olive branch-y note, I hope we someday live in a legal culture where something similar to this is all that is needed for a private citizen to engage in whatever recreational activity he or she chooses, up to and including any and all drugs. I see no reason why someone who is aware of the effects of a given substance and fully accountable in a legal sense is otherwise a threat to society. It's far better to allow the drugs themselves and prohibit the truly dangerous activities like DUI more strictly. Aside from dangerous activities like driving or drug use that makes you unable to perform your work duties, I see no reason intentional drug use should be any more scrutinised, much less demonised and stigmatised as it is, compared to the pharmaceuticals and food additives virtually all of us consume on a daily basis unless we go to great lengths and buy expensive organic foods or own land to grow our own. The worst things I've ever done while solo tripping are waste my own money (which, according to society, is basically a good thing) and made myself feel like crap by taking too many drugs. Maybe posted a few angry rants here and on digg, offended some hippies, whatever. I've certainly never driven into a school or shot someone or any of the myriad of things people do, sometimes completely sober, and often with the aid of good old legal alcohol. It's a sad commentary on our society that the paragraph I introduce as "a more olive branch-y note" is primarily about how so many people seem to want to incarcerate other people for their choice of recreational activities....
 
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You make a good point; in that you can never be sure what idiotic things others will do.
 


~ Patented Miraculously Entheogenic Drug Charge Waiver ~

~ Magically Makes Drugs & Actual Crimes Legal
~

*clearlly not true, your honor - but harmless enough. other than accepting responsibilities beyond my own realm and giving myself permission to stab you. In both eyes. Three times nightl or until u really really hurts loads and I get bored.

(Even Where They're Not Dotcha Know)

~ Now With Reduced Basis in Reality & Greater Repetition of the Bleedin' Obvious ~​

Legall Disclaimer: This concept may contain snakeoil which should be taken with a pinch of salt in small doses and repeated endlessly for less effectiveness and more ignorance.

Allergy Warning: May contain nuts.





I am obviously aware of most of my actions and (other than when unaware of them) and understand that I am going to ingest anything I ingest, and do so by my own free will as eveybody else can do so, so should I. Unless I'm unaware of my actions or am acting without free will.


I always have and always will take full responsibility for any of the effects that the entheogenic substances has on my mind or body as it's common sense and decency to do so. And I am fortunate enough to live in a civilised country with health, welfare and social systems that can lend a hand if things go too wrong and I unwittingly cause hurt to myself or others. Or am just fucked up too bad to notice being a human being with all that that entails.


I seem to be repeating myself but will still take full responsibility for any harm I may do to myself or others whilst under the influence of any entheogenic or other substances which may impair my thoughts and actions. Perhaps a lot more than I ever expected. As far as reasonable and possible anyway. I have no choice but to trust wider society and my peers to decide upon any action deemed appropriate where responsibility in this sense has become meaningless as that is the law and I am not above it - simply disagreeing with it.


I would be pretty bloody silly and using excessive levels self-importance to take full responsibility for any decisions I may make while under the influence of the substance and so will wait till I've fully come down and reintegrated the experience before doing anything too radical or irreversible to act on any decisions made whilst impaired as I try to be a responsible drug user. I'm mostly trying to say the same simple small thing again and again to make it seem more like a thing with real value than hollow words and am struggling so please forgive this one as an also ran.


I may or may not hold anyone responsible, legally or otherwise, except myself (although that's not my decision to make, of course), for the effects of the substance (which I didn't cause or create as it would have done it's thing whoever ate it but I will certainly play a part in the outcome like it or not) or my actions while intoxicated (or otherwise when not intoxicated same as anyone else) as is surely common sense and, even with senseless, reckless and unreasonable assumptions like these, it's simply not feasible, practical or even possible to make these blindly hoperful assumptions about unknown and unknowable possibilities I cannot possibly have advance warning or knowledge of. Previously I also repeat things I have previously stated repeatedly for padding and pleasure to make no particular point.beyond the one I've repeated a lot to make me feel I'm important enough to make a difference to things beyong my ken and nobody else thought the same.



I certainly do understand that entheogenic, psychedelic chemicals can be extremely powerful, extremely weak or usually somewhere in between. I also understand that the effects are variable and an experience is not guaranteed. As I just said but you may have forgotten or been distracted by rearranging the same, similar and occasionally differently irrelevant words since then. Told you I was clever ;)


I will say it again - slowly, forcefully and with unwarranted delusions of pretentious grandeur and also for the hard of thinking and higher than was strictly necessary on a school night. And I like to feel important and needed instead of just knowing it

I take full legal responsibility for all of my actions, as well as all effects relating to the entheogenic substance(s), both short-term and long-term, wherever it is appropriate and not just a bit self-important and silly like here in this clause.

I hereby declare, with the signing of this document that I hold no one responsible in any way shape or form other than myself for anything relating to my entheogenic experience, the entheogenic substance or substances the administrator of the entheogenic substance. I accept sole responsibility and realise this is a nice, if slightly repetitive, gesture only partially based in reality and would not be of any legal value whatsoever. Not even close. And I have a stash of entheogenic journeys put by in baggies and sat in my scales box which would bump possession up to supply for any possible test case, Cuntstubble Dribble. Come get them and my plants if you want them that badly



Print Name X Shambles




Date X A chilly February morning, listening to birds tweet and trolls repeat. 25/2/10 7.57AM and counting





Signature X shambles

Fixxorred ;)

I love the idea and will be carrying one on me in future. Just needed fixxorrising is all :)
 
Not to be overly hostile, but I think pretty much everyone on this board is done taking you seriously. I know I am.
 
did they to begin with?

i was under the impression i was no longer taken seriously anywhere

it's a type of freedom really
 
yeah lol that might work for native americans who cannot be prosecuted. sounds like the DEA is just getting desperate and looking for straight admissions of guilt.
 
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